Catch 22 Mafia - Page 3

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 06:21 GMT

#1564

Alright onto Adam again, some tinfoil-hat wifoming now:
what if that exchange with rayn was just to start distancing themselves as 2 last remaining scum but then coag went lol, gotcha already on them?

Sounded more legit in my head then in the thread now, but yeah that's how fuckign lost I am in terms of this game right now

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 06:26 GMT

#1567

On June 24 2013 15:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
i like doing stuff like that as scum cause its easy to make a pretty long post that doesnt really say anything.
Like that post says people are town, then its left with you and GK. Then since you both cant be scum, someone else in his townreads is scum. BUT THEN HE SAYS THEY ARE ALL TOWN.
SO ITS NOT USEFUL.

so we lynch adam? but he is fucking townier than gk

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 06:32 GMT

#1569

Okay, let's go into the "Ignore-they-lynched-their-godfather-d1-land".

Sloosh is gone yet again and OO has been gone forever as well.
Let me go reread the filters.

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 07:00 GMT

#1570

On Sloosh:
I like the posts he does, so besides the lack of activity there is like not much. Also of note is that he tried directing medics, I am not sure if that is alignment indicative as he wanted ppl to prot ange, which obviously failed. But would scum try to discourage medics on ange by trying to direct them towards her? Ugh, Wifom anyway, sloosh looks okayish and add the godfather vote again he is pretty town.

On ObviousOne:
OO and DP were targeting each other fairly early in d1, so I think it makes no sense for him to be scum. Fuck it besides activity and his entry with policying his townread on oats there is nothing that stands out to me as scummy. He is town -.-

Both should get back into the thread to post though....

On June 24 2013 15:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
but i just said why the posts you pointed out arent townier.
:/

Point is I think they are townie...
Also I am basically doing the same thing, since I have no fucking idea who the last scum is. Best bet imo is GK

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 07:17 GMT

#1571

I think I am kind of getting mad and paranoid but what if hapa is scum and he is just laughing at how nobody has him on the scumdar?

I mean there has been some inconsistency this daycycle:
Look at these:
Beginning of Day2:

On June 24 2013 08:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Right now I think I'm between lynching GK and Shiao.

Adam's play has seemed fairly genuine to me. It's a bit of a gut-read, but one I'm comfortable with for now.

On June 24 2013 08:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah dude, I agree with you.

Oats is town. You don't have to preach to the choir.

On June 24 2013 08:59 Hapahauli wrote:
As for who to vote, I'm not placing anything until I hear what they have to say.

Despite the fact that we're ahead, lynching the last scum can be extremely difficult (harder to draw connections, especially when two scumbuddies die early). Best to take this one calm and slow.

GK reenters the thread:

On June 24 2013 10:07 Hapahauli wrote:
@ GK

Is Shiao really the only scumread you have in this game?

Because "I agree with all of you regarding your town reads, Shiao has to be scum" is a bit hollow.

GK answers with basically the same thing and between the posts we also have oats saying he wants to lynch into GK/adam/Hapa:

On June 24 2013 10:28 Hapahauli wrote:

Show nested quote +

Can you convince me that Oats is town again? He keeps trying my patience.

Note that there is no more mention of the "hollow" reasoning of gk, but just oats as response.

Now we are here:

On June 24 2013 13:55 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Shiao

Not getting the bad vibes from GK

What happened to letting all return before putting your vote?
Now he is gone (like the rest of the thread seemingly

)

I mean I know he got pushed to oblivion by rayn, but what if that was a bus, I mean the case of rayn was not that strong and I highly doubt anyone would have been onboard for a hapa lynch d2. I also admit that this is mostly pretty weak, but d2 hapa seems off in comparison to d1. Maybe it is just me becoming paranoid since the reads do not add up etc., but its weird as jackshit. Cannot really call hapa scum for just these d2 posts, but if he does not get shot soon hang him.

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 07:29 GMT

#1573

On June 24 2013 15:24 Adam4167 wrote:
Mhmm, this is exactly what I was afraid of.

I do not think a scum ShiaoPi would be giving me a town read of right here. Nor was I expecting GK to do it when he did, if he were actually scum.

Something fucking fishy going on this game.

So adam what now? Who to lynch in your opinion?

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 18:58 GMT

#1624

what the fuck jk claim and you go fuck off again? I mean like there is nothing you are giving us. No reasons motivations or thouhts on wht jailing yamato. fuck my earlier doubts on gk. This is scumgk all over
##Vote:Goodkarma

Will probably be around for a while as I battle insomnia but I really hope I am asleep soon, got to wake up early tmr...

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 19:47 GMT

#1638

On June 25 2013 04:44 Hapahauli wrote:

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Yeah, I was wondering why you had your secret vote on Yamato yet were voting GK at the end of Day 1

Intersted in this as well

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 19:48 GMT

#1639

ebwop:
nvm ninjaed

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 19:53 GMT

#1641

OO/coag/sloosh:
any comment on gk now? also who you wanna lynch today? (besides coag who wants me dead)

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 20:25 GMT

#1643

i think the part about fake is just flavor for the assasins. but thats me

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 20:29 GMT

#1645

yes. since they were 3rd parties. also thejr roles suggest working alone as they are pretty much jack of all trades with the focus on survival and hujting the other cid

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 20:33 GMT

#1646

also the other option would be 4 factions in a 14player game....highly doubt it
town, scum and two other factions who have to kill each other? no just no, why would marv be femoved from game if he was not a 1man team that fulfilled his winconc?
to be honest I dont quite get what your problem is witb the role. GKs roleclaim itself is terrible and in line with his d1 behavior

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 21:11 GMT

#1649

i understand your scenarios but look at it from another perspective. was yamato seriously so town to be high on the safelist? I think top priority would have been ange or hapa or heck even marv. all players with a history of strong towngames who are also often hit n1and were also really townie going into n1
yamato had a lot of votes in d1 and was not as established a townie as the examples i listed. I wiuld have even put sloosh over yamato if I had to think about jailing somebody defensively. i mean the quote you wrote down precisely says that yamato is null. do you rb your null reads id you could rather rb yiur scumread or townread???

my opinion on gks scumgame is the pattern that he pops into a thread drops a couple of posts sometimes only one large one a buggers off again. negligable threadpresence and no real pushing of his cases/opinions. Compare I swear mini and this game and you can see the similar behavior. GK comes in, posts and is out again, usually commenting in the scum qt.

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 21:29 GMT

#1652

On June 24 2013 08:11 goodkarma wrote:
@Corazon:

From the OP:

"Overview: This is a closed setup. There are no standard notifications (RB, save, hit) in this game and there will be full role reveal on death. Passive abilities and factional KP cannot be roleblocked. The town win condition is to eliminate all anti-town players."

So either you are lying, or the host is.

Wait a sec, from just at start d2.
Factional KP cannot be blocked. As gk picked that quote he must have known that he couls not defensively rb. so yamato would have been an offensive rb. while that makes more sense it is still weird why would you rb your null???

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 21:31 GMT

#1653

gk is scum. thats pretty much the cherry on top for me.

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 21:46 GMT

#1656

I dont think that it is a town jk. its value for scum is clear we have a flipped cop and a confirmed vig. nkthing to add there.
i am also saying that if he wants to offensively jail, why not jail his highest scumread (aka me) why jail a null read instead?
its jus too convenient.

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 21:48 GMT

#1657

On June 25 2013 06:43 Hapahauli wrote:

Show nested quote +

Wait wut?

Just to clarify terminology:
Offensive JK = trying to Roleblock someone (usually to block factional KP)
Defensive JK = trying to save someone from a NK

Now obviously it doesn't make very much sense for GK to offensive JK Yamato. However nothing precludes him from Defensive JK'ing Yamato. At that point in the game, Yamato was obv not-scum since he was on the DP wagon. While GK mentioned Yamato as a null read early in the game, most of his analysis structure in the past two days basically assumes that everyone on the DP wagon is town (including Yamato).

That being said, JK'ing Yamato is both convenient for the purposes of a fake-claim, and suboptimal (given Ange was the clear save target on N1).

but he cannot defensively jk, cause factional kp cannot be rbed?

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 21:55 GMT

#1660

am i like hugely misreadint the op?? I mean why say yiu cannot block KP if it is just like usual?
ugh, I hate my lack of sleep. does not do good things for my logic.
now fine strike that ponlint off but gks claim is still too convenient and his play matches i swear

ShiaoPi

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June 24 2013 22:01 GMT

#1664

[green]Is it possible to defesively Jailkeep as per hapas definition earlier?[/green

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