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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 24 2013 22:00 GMT
#1663
Also Shaio - the OP says that you can't Roleblock KP. Not that you can't block it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 24 2013 22:36 GMT
#1669
On June 25 2013 07:32 slOosh wrote:
...

I guess the biggest thing for me is that GK's role stuff. I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation that people with power roles to read them, read the OP again maybe and double check that stuff on their own.


Worth saying that this also makes sense for the scum RB.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 24 2013 22:46 GMT
#1671
Oh wait nevermind I took your post out of context. You good.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:10 GMT
#1673
welllll shit, we have this one wrong

##Unvote
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:13 GMT
#1677
Adam, Shiao, and Oats yet again.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:23 GMT
#1680
Well Adam would be the first on my mind. Returning to the "least robust town-read" heuristic, that's probably Adam right now. He's posted some stuff that's made my head nod, but I can't say he's done any groundbreaking/original/compelling analysis.

Shiao sounded very genuine last night. The whole "OMG GK CLAIMED SCUM" thing in the last few hours was weird though.

As for Oats, he's playing this paranoid, spazzy townie that seems hard to fake as scum. He's probably my strongest town read of the 3.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:26 GMT
#1681
On June 25 2013 10:21 slOosh wrote:
Hapa from your perspective, how much did you feel like rayn was angling for your lynch today (were he alive)?


Given that he was repeatedly stating his suspicions on me throughout D1/N1, I assume he probably would push for it to some degree. He was a nuker, so perhaps he wanted to get enough suspicion on me in order to drop a nuke on me and semi-justify it. I really can only speculate about it though.

Then again, it's not like you'll get an objective answer out of me on this subject >>
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:26 GMT
#1682
On June 25 2013 10:23 cDgCorazon wrote:
Oats or GK...I'm not lynching anyone else.


Ok. What do you think of what GK just posted?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:31 GMT
#1686
On June 25 2013 10:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 10:26 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 25 2013 10:23 cDgCorazon wrote:
Oats or GK...I'm not lynching anyone else.


Ok. What do you think of what GK just posted?


Well I don't want to be called a dick for not believing him, but his play does not back up his town claim. I hate to say it, but no one's claimed the RB on me and he claimed RB but with no way to verify, so what am I supposed to believe?

I could see a scum GK roleblocking me just in case I was an investigative/vigilante type role (because we had no clue about the set-up before Yamato/Marv's flip) because I was starting to get really tired of his illogical pushes and I was starting to call him scum.


Ignore the claim and his actions for now - what do you think about the post? Tone, townieness, etc?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:38 GMT
#1689
blaaaargh and then adam brings up a good point

The one thing that's been on the back of my mind this game about Oats, is that he's definetely throwing around his suspicions a lot and acting "paranoid", but he's pushing his suspicions in such a different way than town games I've seen him do in the past.

For example, when he thought I was scum in his last town game (I Swear), he went against all thread sentiment and was hurling suspicion at me, screaming that I was scum and that he wanted me to get lynched. Similarly in Red Team's Prize, he did the same to a town-leader Palmar. Hurled shit at him against all town sentiment and was completely uncompromising about it.

This game... he seems very reluctant to push his reads in any meaningful way. He's poked at me saying I'm scum several times this game, but it has all been a "joke" according to him. He's also poked at Adam, but sounds really reluctant to go after him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:40 GMT
#1691
When I think about Oat's contributions in the last few days, it feels like he's been a ghost. I can't remember anything meaningful he's posted, which is really rare given that his town game is all about madly tunneling players.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:41 GMT
#1692
Whaddya think SloOsh? Adam?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:43 GMT
#1693
Also, I want to hear from Coag and OO on this especially. Both think Oats is strongly town, and OO has a pretty strong grasp on Oats' meta.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#1696
Since when are you suspicious of GK anyway?

Fuck, have you even read that post of his?

Looking through the last few pages of your filter, I see you mention him a couple of times...
Adam, why is shiao and GK scum? You only summarized shit and didnt say why that makes them scum.

GK saying he is obvtown instead of town is rubbing me the wrong way. Its like obv town is your appearance to the thread, town is your actual alignment.

Im only inclined on lynching Adam/GK/Hapa today.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok final say on GK. I feel that his misguided push on me is townie because I dont think he wouldve done it as scum considering I thought he was scum off 1-2 posts. So drawing my attention? Bad.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And if GK is scum, lotta reads are wrong.
But yeah i agree with the analysis about the GK and Shiao issue.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:52 GMT
#1699
On June 25 2013 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
This game... he seems very reluctant to push his reads in any meaningful way. He's poked at me saying I'm scum several times this game, but it has all been a "joke" according to him. He's also poked at Adam, but sounds really reluctant to go after him.

Actually explain this more, do you not feel my push on yamato and adam being as not meaningful? Can you say why?


You're "pushing" them but it's so much more passive than your pushes in past games against other players.

Like this:
On June 25 2013 00:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
sloosh why do I wanna lynch you again?
Why.... .

Everyone had rayn as town except Coag. So thats not really a point in favor of Adam's townieness.
AHHH I DONT KNOW. Am i crazy for seeing something no one else sees?


Why aren't you voting the guy? You clearly think he's scum above all your other reads. Yet it sounds like you're waiting for the approval of others of your case before you do anything.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:54 GMT
#1703
On June 25 2013 10:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also answer the other stuff, out of my post you only get the fact that I changed my mind about GK AGAIN?


The problem is that I don't get the sense that you have much of a scum-read on GK at all.

You think Adam is scum, and he's clearly your top scumread. Yet then you go and post this...

I dont think gk's post is alignment indicative, hapa immediately unvoting is REALLY FUCKING ODD.
Martyring isnt alignment indicative, and if gk stays alive to lylo, is he benefit to town? no because even as town he gave up.
SO KILL HIM.


Your attitudes on GK this game in no way warrant a remark like this.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:56 GMT
#1708
You think GK's post is a scumclaim?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 01:57 GMT
#1710
On June 25 2013 10:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes.


If you think GK's post is a scumclaim, walk me through why you're voting Adam right now.

Secondly, explain this part of your post on the subject:
I dont think gk's post is alignment indicative, hapa immediately unvoting is REALLY FUCKING ODD.
Martyring isnt alignment indicative, and if gk stays alive to lylo, is he benefit to town? no because even as town he gave up.
SO KILL HIM.


...because you clearly don't think it's a "scumclaim" as you are now suggesting.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 02:06 GMT
#1717
On June 25 2013 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
...
I changed my mind hapa, I currently think that town would not have martyred in the best way to not get himself lynched.
Like all the other people selfvoting havent been so thought through.


DAFUQ.

I call you out for an inconsistency, and then "welp I changed my mind". You said GK scumclaimed 5 minutes ago AFTER you voted Adam.

How the jack titties does that make sense?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2013 02:11 GMT
#1720
On June 25 2013 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 11:06 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 25 2013 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
...
I changed my mind hapa, I currently think that town would not have martyred in the best way to not get himself lynched.
Like all the other people selfvoting havent been so thought through.


DAFUQ.

I call you out for an inconsistency, and then "welp I changed my mind". You said GK scumclaimed 5 minutes ago AFTER you voted Adam.

How the jack titties does that make sense?

tell me why my vote matters


We're not talking about the vote right now. That's nothing compared to trying to make sense of your posting in this last page.

and tell me why I cant kill gk tmr?


You just said the guy was fucking town, why would you want to kill him tomorrow?!?!?

Hell if you think Adam is scum, why do you even think there will be a game tomorrow?!?!?!?!
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