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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 06:36 GMT
#2181
I believe Coag

Its lylo tomorrow right?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 06:37 GMT
#2182
I like how we started with almost all anti town elements dead after n1.
And now its gonna be lylo
No gg, No skill.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 02 2013 20:11 GMT
#2183
##vote sloosh
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 20:33 GMT
#2184
I hammered DarthPunk D1. Explain why I'm scum again?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 20:37 GMT
#2185
On July 02 2013 15:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know man.
CID is the only viable reason that Coag could not be town.

Ok so why is sloosh town? His vote on DP.
I read his filter surrounding that. Its a bit odd. He doesnt really give reasons in his voting post. He never gives reasons for voting for DP, only what makes him vote DP and not GK.
Also his post after the lynch.
Show nested quote +
Obviously the pool of players we should look into tomorrow is the non DarthPunk voters, since it was an extremely close lynch (which includes goodkarma).
I dont like this post. There isnt also a follow up to this, he doesnt start pushing anyone, he just has vague bad feelings about Hapa.
His reaction to the flip,
Show nested quote +
Everyone take a chill pill. We just lynched scum.
rubs me the wrong way. Its way too cool for such a close lynch I feel.

I gave insufficient reasons for hammering scum over town? The crap is this?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 20:46 GMT
#2186
On June 23 2013 08:07 HiroPro wrote:
Night 1

DarthPunk as Captain Black was lynched!

Vote Count

yamato77 (2): Secret Vote, Oatsmaster,
ShiaoPi (1): goodkarma,
goodkarma (5): ShiaoPi, marvellosity, Hapahauli, cDgCorazon, Adam4167
ObviousOne (2): DarthPunk, raynpelikoneet
DarthPunk (5): yamato77, ObviousOne, Coagulation, Ange777, slOosh

Like, how do you look at this and decide to lynch not Oats???
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 21:09 GMT
#2187
Oats is a good scum player. Good enough to fool marv (Ego mafia)

On April 12 2013 00:34 DarthPunk wrote:
You can't deny that Oats rose to the occasion though and played a really solid scum game. I mean. You were dancing to his tune.

On April 11 2013 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
The funny thing about this game is that Oats *did* play much better than he played as mafia before, so he got caught properly day 3 instead of day 1.



No one has been able to tell me, how it is possible to reconcile D1.

There's three scenarios:
+ Oats is scum and has played strong scum game
+ Oats isn't scum and
-> OO is scum chose to lead the wagon on his buddy DP, and his buddies DP and rayn both tried to push him
-> slOosh is scum and chose to hammer his buddy DP
-> Coag is scum and chose to shoot his buddy rayn
+ Host have made the game unreasonably unbalanced, and there has been a highly coincidental combination of night actions.

What's most likely?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 02 2013 23:01 GMT
#2188
Day 5

Oatsmaster as Nately was killed.
"What is a country? A country is a piece of land surrounded on all sides by boundaries, usually unnatural. Englishmen are dying for England, Americans are dying for America, Germans are dying for Germany, Russians are dying for Russia. There are now fifty or sixty countries fighting in this war. Surely so many countries can't all be worth dying for."

"Anything worth living for," said Nately, "is worth dying for."

"And everything worth dying for," answered the sacrilegious old man, "is certainly worth living for."


You are Nately. Spurned by the whore who you love, the only thing you can do is to live your life with honor! You win with the town.

The deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) in .
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2013 23:12 GMT
#2189
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 23:24 GMT
#2190
Well out goes my textbook mafia play ...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 23:26 GMT
#2191
Is it so wrong to play according to setup?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 23:31 GMT
#2192
Coag is vigi. Vigi + rber is unlikely. Unless factional mafia RB which is hella broken.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 23:33 GMT
#2193
Mafia wouldn't get another KP at night. Town has had crap roles so far.

Game start: 9-3-2
D1: Town mislynch: 8-3-2
N1: KP and vigi shot and 3rd party exit: 5-3
D2: Town mislynch + day KP: 3-3

Win off 1 mislynch.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 23:34 GMT
#2194
Bleh 2.

2 member scum team seems highly unlikely (but what do I know about setup ... )
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 02 2013 23:36 GMT
#2195
And I only get 1 day to figure this out T.T
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 03 2013 00:07 GMT
#2196
Got it!

Ok. The [redacted] was something like this:
DP and rayn make the pretense of lynching OO, without actually intending to lynch him. Why?

On June 21 2013 21:31 marvellosity wrote:
I've read OO correctly in the past - as town in Red Team, as mafia in Hydra 1. The counterpoint to this is I most recently read him incorrectly in a game on omgus (not helped by the fact he disappeared for the last 24 hours of day 1) and also he put in a pretty nice performance as replacement scum in Smurf Mafia. In short I no longer feel that confident in "meta"ing him, beyond involvedness/give-a-shitness.

Good place to start. OO has still yet to get his scum legs (wings?) nice and stretched out. He plays the scared / lurker type scum.

So, scum game plan?

ScumQT
OO: hey, I'm pretty bad at scum. maybe we can bus me and ride out the cred
DP & rayn: yea that sounds like good idea


So they do just that. It explains why both DP and rayn were making a good show about how they were on OO. OO does the same. Now what they didn't expect, was super tag team Coag / slOosh / Ange to come in and actually start voting for DP.

ScumQT
OO: Oh shoot. This was not the plan. And I'm scared to switch 'cause it looks really fishy.
DP & rayn: *sleeping*
OO: ahh!! what to do??


What to do as people start talking about DP or GK? Not consolidate on your scumread. In fact, drop hints because you desperately want someone to switch, but not yourself because that's too scary.
On June 23 2013 07:52 ObviousOne wrote:
We can be reasonably sure that DP won't fuck off if he doesn't die today. Can we say the same about GK?


Let me repeat that. He drops his #1 scumread, because he might produce content later. He agrees, but doesn't move his own VOTE OH MY GOSH I"M REALIZING THIS AS I TYPE

##Vote: ObviousOne


slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 03 2013 00:09 GMT
#2197
Gj Adam. Gj.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 03 2013 00:14 GMT
#2198
On June 24 2013 09:20 Coagulation wrote:
if the rb is scum than they are clearly not very good/experienced at mafia considering I claimed vigi about 20 times day1/night1 and then caught Rayn and stated I was 100% sure hes confirmed scum because of his scum slip halfway into night1.

why they would roleblock anyone but me is beyond astonishing.

On June 24 2013 09:25 Adam4167 wrote:
They were probably hoping you'd shoot marv.

Plus Cora claimed blue also.

On July 02 2013 09:25 ObviousOne wrote:
Sigh...

@sloosh, I'll talk you through my thoughts after I get home tonight, but I'm feeling pretty lost right now. Adam being town means maybe I'm being lenient in some way regarding either you or Oats. I'm not even considering Coag based entirely on his shot; I don't see why he wouldn't just shoot Marv N1 since he'd been pushing for it all day and it would make sense (in a sort of twisted way) to see him do that. It may come back round to Oats. Dat filter.... anyway, a project for when I get home.

And the pieces fall into place.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 03 2013 01:10 GMT
#2199
##vote ObviousOne for the lulz
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 03 2013 01:51 GMT
#2200
On July 03 2013 09:07 slOosh wrote:
Got it!

Ok. The [redacted] was something like this:
DP and rayn make the pretense of lynching OO, without actually intending to lynch him. Why?

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 21:31 marvellosity wrote:
I've read OO correctly in the past - as town in Red Team, as mafia in Hydra 1. The counterpoint to this is I most recently read him incorrectly in a game on omgus (not helped by the fact he disappeared for the last 24 hours of day 1) and also he put in a pretty nice performance as replacement scum in Smurf Mafia. In short I no longer feel that confident in "meta"ing him, beyond involvedness/give-a-shitness.

Good place to start. OO has still yet to get his scum legs (wings?) nice and stretched out. He plays the scared / lurker type scum.

So, scum game plan?
Show nested quote +

ScumQT
OO: hey, I'm pretty bad at scum. maybe we can bus me and ride out the cred
DP & rayn: yea that sounds like good idea


So they do just that. It explains why both DP and rayn were making a good show about how they were on OO. OO does the same. Now what they didn't expect, was super tag team Coag / slOosh / Ange to come in and actually start voting for DP.
Show nested quote +

ScumQT
OO: Oh shoot. This was not the plan. And I'm scared to switch 'cause it looks really fishy.
DP & rayn: *sleeping*
OO: ahh!! what to do??


What to do as people start talking about DP or GK? Not consolidate on your scumread. In fact, drop hints because you desperately want someone to switch, but not yourself because that's too scary.
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:52 ObviousOne wrote:
We can be reasonably sure that DP won't fuck off if he doesn't die today. Can we say the same about GK?


Let me repeat that. He drops his #1 scumread, because he might produce content later. He agrees, but doesn't move his own VOTE OH MY GOSH I"M REALIZING THIS AS I TYPE

##Vote: ObviousOne



Haha that's pretty funny. Two of your points of evidence are made-up scum QT conversations, that's pretty cute, I have to admit.

The last part you have misinterpreted entirely for your nefarious purposes. Did you read the context in which that was written? That was not dropping my scum read on DP, please re-read P51 if you are having issues with the concept. The topic at hand was the merits of choosing one or the other for people who were still on the fence.

End of day, consolidation, two realistic non-shenanigan lynches. Think about it. Hell, look at Adam's post DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH it where he's basically saying the exact same thing:
On June 23 2013 07:53 Adam4167 wrote:
##Vote: Goodkarma

Of the two, DP looks more invested and I venture ill have a better chance at figuring him out on later days when we're the only two awake talking in the thread.

And finally, since you may not be aware I just played and won a game as scum, you can read up on PTroughton2 in Smurf Mini.

Your theoretical case is completely manufactured.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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