I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia

On June 10 2013 00:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
If you dont think he is scum, why are you against him being mayor??

???

On June 10 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:

cause he spoke up first?

Shiao doesnt get mislynched either from what I can remember.

Look, the mayor is 1 of 2 types of people.
1. Someone who is good at the game and we all read as town for whatever reason.
2. Someone we all read as town.

So why do you care that the mayor isnt you if it fufills these 2 criteria for you?
Clearly you think that shiao is not scum, you should be voting for him.

What kind of discussion are you expecting from a mayoral vote?

On June 10 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:

So do you think Shiao is more likely scum than town with what hapa said about him being normally lurky as scum?
Also with your vast experience of mayoral votes.

Again I ask, why would discussion over the mayoral candidates be better than just straight up voting someone who you think is town?

Do you think scum would try and get one person elected?
If so, how do you think their platform will be run/conducted?

On June 10 2013 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Sylencia and Stutters

Since you're both hesitant about Shaio's candidacy, some questions:
1) What qualities would you consider "ideal" mayoral qualities?
2) If you were to pick anyone in this town to run (regardless of if they want to run or not), who would you vote based on the thread so far?

On June 11 2013 05:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
thats fine hap, if no roleblock is claimed tomorrow kill BH. If his scumslip is real scum is goon, framer, gf team so my role isnt that great anyway. im dead tonight unless we have medic so glhf. my last post for today

On June 11 2013 06:08 Blazinghand wrote:


scumslips don't exist. are we going to have to do this again?

On June 12 2013 08:46 Hapahauli wrote:
Alright, consider this my intent to shoot Gravity Man.

I will submit my kill 10 minutes before the deadline.

Stutters and GK both deserve extra days, and shooting either of them is a pure coinflip given their inactivity. Both of them are very readable if they post, and with or without my presence in the town, I trust that people will be able to read them in future days. For those suspicious of Syl, the same could be argued.

GM has been active and has posted, but comes across as attempting to contribute rather than actually contributing. Furthermore he's been trumping up his scum-hunting contributions which are lackluster at best. Even the few players he does analyze, he never takes any concrete stances or even draws actual conclusions about them in his cases.

On June 12 2013 11:25 Sylencia wrote:
rofl Wave

gg hapa

Anyways, I'm interested in ShiaoPi's reads atm, as I said Stutters post is pretty good and so I'm willing to go with that for now.

On June 12 2013 12:32 VayneAuthority wrote:


If you are town I do not see why you want to lynch the cop? You aren't really doing yourself any favors with these last couple of posts.. I honestly have no idea to shoot and I'm afraid if I just keep discussing it with the thread that scum will manipulate it somehow. You also know that I'm not one to post longwinded reasoning so something doesn't add up here.

You REALLY don't want me to shoot you huh, you were lurking the thread because you responded almost immediately...

On June 12 2013 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
GUYS WHO THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH TODAY.................
I know BH wants to shoot/lynch GM.

how about others.

On June 12 2013 12:34 GravityMan wrote:

Yeah I dunno I think Stutters is a pretty good shot if you're going to use it today TBH.
No sense hurrying it along but it probably means something if Hapa was ready to do it himself.

I want to see what Shiao has to say about the scumread on him because I've got a couple things to say about it myself.
Stutters what happened to your scumread on me?

On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....

BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.

I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.

BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?

Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such.

On June 13 2013 02:19 Blazinghand wrote:


if you open my profile i list all my games as well as what alignment i was in, how I died, and whether i won or lost! it's color coded and everything. very easy to make a meta case on me if there's one to be made!

On June 13 2013 07:21 AxleGreaser wrote:


When would you vig him?

On June 13 2013 10:46 goodkarma wrote:


Your first question is very rhetorical... I'm being very useful. It's you that are asking useless questions... Further it should be clear from my recent posting what I think about BH.

As for stutters, my read on him was slight town. Since that time, he's said some things that are odd to me. I'd say he's more of a null read now. Like I don't understand how he instantly assumes Vayne fakeclaimed at one point when there's been no counterclaims, and how later on he's brought up I should be vigishot immediately for lurking even though it's clear I post in the evening, and the day cycle is only halfway done. These are actions that very well could be scum-motivated, but I need to see him post a bit more to be sure. As I've said, town Stutters has moments where he'll post stuff that's actually insightful. I felt that was what I was seeing with his posting on Shao, but that's really the only point this whole game he's been like that.

I do think you're tAnd the only reason I believe that is looking at your past scumgames I can't visualize you drawing so much attention to yourself as scum, even if your play has been objectively scummy and bad.

On June 13 2013 12:47 goodkarma wrote:
@Stutters:

Your assessment of Vayne isn't entirely unreasonable, but the aggressive fashion in which you did it feels off to me. Also if this was what you were thinking, why didn't it come up much sooner?



Stutters, would you mind briefly explaining how as town you would propose I get vigie'd if it indeed is true that we'd be at endgame tomorrow in your above scenario? You mention me to be coinflippy, yet were anxious earlier to vig me anyway... This doesn't make much sense to me if indeed the situation is as dire as you describe it.

Finally, Shao was your top scumread, but that was quite a while ago. Is he still your top scumread now?

On June 15 2013 01:07 GravityMan wrote:

I'm going to ask you some question right now.
Because I feel that I already know the answers to said questions I'm asking them to attempt to divine your alignment, so they are not useless questions.
(THERE, AXLE, I PRE-EXPLAINED MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU)
For the record, it's not whether you answer these 'right' or 'wrong' that will help me, so do your best to answer naturally, k?
K.
Why did Vayne do what he did?
What are your thoughts on GK/Shiao right now?
Am I likely to be scum or town? Why? Did your opinion of me change at some point? If so, when?

On June 14 2013 02:09 GravityMan wrote:
I don't like your new 'I'm mad as hell and I'm not taking it anymore' persona. It's not getting you anywhere.
Tone it down, broski.

I originally had you as scum because your return to the thread when Vayne was trying to fake you out or some shit looked absolutely awful. Like, telling someone you'd lynch them after you're dead is hilariously bad. Not a scumslip I guess but it clearly showed that you were rattled. 'Survival instincts' is more a scum thing than a town thing.

Now what makes YOU think Shiao is scum?

He has done a shit ton more analysis and put more effort into the game than you have. Your point regarding his reaction to jampi has some merit but that's all you've offered. His reads coincide somewhat with mine, and while on its own that isn't exactly a towntell, if he's helping me lynch BH I sure as hell am not going to turn on him and call him scum.
You, Sylencia and BH are all on my list right now, and as I mentioned, Sylencia's recent posting has put him higher on the scumlist than you.

Anything else, good sir? Anyone you're going to be voting for today?