I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia

On June 08 2013 15:41 Blazinghand wrote:
I feel like I should also mention this, I pointedly ignore any IRL explanations for absences, even those which are given before the game. I will also never give any explanation for my absence, though if someone asks enough I'll claim to be "eating dinner" and provide a "screenshot" of dinner to allay their concerns.

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I won't hold giving IRL excuses against you, I'll just ignore them. IRL excuses are like American politicians trying to one-up each other on how religious they are. This video clip shows my view, and is basically how I feel about talking about IRL

http://youtu.be/ulk3hDwxnmg?t=4m40s

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You can find links to all my previous games in my profile. It's possible I've missed one or two but I think they're all there.

GL HF

On June 09 2013 05:55 Blazinghand wrote:
dude that venn diagram is the single greatest thing i've ever done for tl mafia i'm 100% srs

On June 10 2013 13:30 Blazinghand wrote:


not really, no

On June 10 2013 16:15 Blazinghand wrote:


okay, you disagree with me about hapa. This means you think he's scum, and you aren't like somewhat worried about scum getting elected mayor? I'm a pretty influential guy, Oats. Come on! Convince me!

wat

Are you a 3rd party or something? You sound so... different.

On June 11 2013 04:01 Blazinghand wrote:
VA the mayoral role would be a waste in your hands. I take back every compliment. I'm guessing you just got lucky hoodwinking me last game

On June 11 2013 05:43 Blazinghand wrote:
But yeah in retrospect I should have gone with my second instinct on oats and not voted him. He's the kind of guy who accidentally sends out wrong cop checks and posts links to the host spreadsheet in the thread and so on, so it's possible he's just this bad. His vote-flailing while i've been eating hasn't been particularly townie but I don't really see why scum would do it either. I guess jubjubs are gonna jub. I don't really have anything to add about jampdampi other than that hapa's case on him is reasonable and hapa is the towniest guy here.

And oats, for what it's worth, I'm sorry I called you a jubjub (though you have called me worse this game). I'll do my best to sugar-coat things a bit so hapa can play with me reasonably.

On June 11 2013 05:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
thats fine hap, if no roleblock is claimed tomorrow kill BH. If his scumslip is real scum is goon, framer, gf team so my role isnt that great anyway. im dead tonight unless we have medic so glhf. my last post for today

Related to this is the answer given to me by this Blazinghand regarding his top mayoral candidates. He goes into great detail explaining his regard for this Hapahauli and his seemingly monstrous ego belies what he thinks of himself, which is acceptable, though I do not feel the same earnestness when he speaks of this VayneAuthority.

He brings up a past in game in which he was impressed by this VayneAuthority's play as a man of the scum variety, yet nebulously brings up the interactions he has with the man regarding his town play and his scumhunting. I have not seen anything this game that shows this as evident, therefore I must believe he is impressed with VayneAuthroity's play from past games, yet why not reference these and only the scum game? It is also curious that right at the end of this paragraph he seems to back up on the strength of his lauding of this VayneAuthority saying he sees to no reason to entrust him with the mayoral candidacy...could this be because he also realizes right here that his scum game is what is most to be feared from the man and not the strength of his town game?

I also personally have not seen anything from this VayneAuthority this game that shows him to be a strong town player; he himself admits to me that he is a much better scum player than town player and plays the way he does simply to survive. I do not regard this as strong town play, yet this Blazinghand does, for unknown reasons.

On June 11 2013 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:


Dude, I literally dont' know what to tell you other than that oats started it and I have been reasonable and backed off of him the first time when I realized my initial case was bad. And also, shit man what do you think my goal was to piss oats off and stop him from contributing all the useful stuff he normally does?

On June 11 2013 07:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Dude VA there's not gonna be a mad scum-driven voteswitch onto the claimed cop. If there was that would be hilarious and we'd win easily.

On June 11 2013 06:50 Blazinghand wrote:
the point is at the start of the game I thought VA would be a good town player.

On June 11 2013 10:09 Blazinghand wrote:
brb dinner

On June 11 2013 10:57 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't think I believe oats as town any more. Something about it just doesn't smell right to me. I KNOW he's liek this a lot as scum... but still. Does anyone want to lynch him? I'm willing to swap.

On June 11 2013 11:03 Blazinghand wrote:
whatever i'm super bad for letting jamp die, and worst part is he might even flip scum then i'm gonna look super bad too.

On June 11 2013 11:06 Blazinghand wrote:


wat

On June 11 2013 11:08 Blazinghand wrote:


how is it distancing if he flips town

On June 11 2013 11:03 Blazinghand wrote:
whatever i'm super bad for letting jamp die, and worst part is he might even flip scum then i'm gonna look super bad too.

On June 11 2013 17:49 Blazinghand wrote:


im just saying you can't say i started it

On June 11 2013 17:54 Blazinghand wrote:
Look like seriously the for realz answer is that scattered throughout D1 I laid out some fairly reasonable reasons for oats being scum. I don't think it was properly refuted. What you want me to do isn't to provide a reason (I've given plenty of reasons), what you want me to do is convince you and that will require a second look at oat's filter, analysis of his meta, and so on. I really don't have time for that right now, I'm about to sit down to dinner. After dinner I'll be glad to help out, but until then little snippets is all I can manage.

On June 11 2013 17:59 Blazinghand wrote:
1) there's literally zero chance we're lynching hapa tomorrow
2) the idea that we'll lynch GK for not formulating a scumread on a 20+ page game within minutes of replacing in is utterly preposterous

On June 12 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
and yeah don't shoot oats unless we plan on policying him. otherwise we just have to hope he's not scum i guess.

also, I'm upgrading my townread on hapa to super-mega-ultra town. there's 0 reason for him to pull that stunt as scum when given my play so far he could shoot me and when I flip town say "bah, he had it coming" and everyone would nod along. in fact, hapa, you're probably dead tonight as a result of looking so town.

On June 12 2013 09:34 Stutters695 wrote:
Also I see hapa plans on shooting GM, I haven't really filtered his shit yet but Hapas reasoning makes sense and I'd be way more comfortable with that than GK.

On June 12 2013 10:47 Blazinghand wrote:
wow i actually personally dislike GM now

On June 12 2013 11:05 Blazinghand wrote:
hapa, you played well, except the only people in the town who deserve to fire that gun are you and me. Vayne may be town but he sure isn't the right guy to be holding the instant dayvig shot. how trusting of you to think he'll use it wisely.

On June 12 2013 11:13 Blazinghand wrote:
We're in a 13-player game, I'd be slightly surprised if we had a cop, a JK, and a vigi + doublevoting elected role. I also am fairly certain that if we did have a JK, he'd be protecting hapa, whose powers he wouldn't interfere with, as opposed to you, who is a claimed cop. You were almost certainly RBed by a scum roleblocker.

Also, your guess that our other blue is a town roleblocker is incompatible with me "not scumslipping" assuming that the thing you think I scumslipped was scum not having a roleblocker. After all, if you think you were roleblocked by a townie, then the fact that you were roleblocked doesn't prove that scum has a roleblocker, which doesn't negate my "Scumslip" (which is in fact not a scumslip).

come on man. if you're gonna speculate on night actions at least do it right. scum roleblocked you. We might have a medic or JK (on you or someone else), we might not. you didn't get a result, and now your vote is worth 2x and you can dayvig. use it wisely.

On June 12 2013 11:16 Blazinghand wrote:


if you REALLY think that what i scumslipped is that scum doesn't have an RB, and you REALLY think that you were roleblocked by a townie, I don't see why the fact that you got RBed means I didn't scumslip. Obviously i'm town, but your reasoning is faulty. You're wrong and need to be told you're wrong.

On June 12 2013 11:21 Blazinghand wrote:


zzzz stop being bad.


god do i have to be the voice of reason


also double shoot GM for being WoS

On June 12 2013 11:48 Blazinghand wrote:


that level of thought is exactly what i'd expect from you.

On June 12 2013 11:50 Blazinghand wrote:


Clearly I'm the flamer here who needs to be kept in check by you. Yeah you keep on thinking that.

On June 12 2013 11:58 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm just trying to point out, maybe i haven't been great this game, and I get why VA might be upset, but at the same time, I've done a pretty good job of being right and trying to help. you gotta at least give me some credit on that oats

On June 12 2013 13:39 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah i don't like shiao either, stutters. not at all.

On June 12 2013 12:34 GravityMan wrote:

Yeah I dunno I think Stutters is a pretty good shot if you're going to use it today TBH.
No sense hurrying it along but it probably means something if Hapa was ready to do it himself.

I want to see what Shiao has to say about the scumread on him because I've got a couple things to say about it myself.
Stutters what happened to your scumread on me?

And of course I'm the best, most experienced, and most intelligent player here,

On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....

BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.

I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.

BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?

Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such.

On June 13 2013 02:19 Blazinghand wrote:


if you open my profile i list all my games as well as what alignment i was in, how I died, and whether i won or lost! it's color coded and everything. very easy to make a meta case on me if there's one to be made!

On June 13 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.

On June 13 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.

On June 13 2013 02:37 Blazinghand wrote:
You know what, I actually don't buy VA's cop claim any more. Maybe the real cop hasn't counterclaimed for whatever reason or maybe we don't have a cop. Everything about VA's play stinks.

On June 13 2013 02:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Look even oats knows I'm town.

On June 13 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:

DP was 3p in les. Doesnt count.

On June 13 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont actually remember.
Refresh my memory please.

On June 13 2013 02:52 Blazinghand wrote:


oh what's this, a meta case with no comparison to a town game, quotes, or links, despite my super well documented play history? kk

On June 13 2013 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
Alright I guess thats believable enough. If you fed me some bullshit I was going to shoot you on the spot, seemed like you were referencing something from a scum QT or something

On June 14 2013 02:55 Blazinghand wrote:
Hello friends. I'm back from dinner and ready to party. I suppose a VA lynch isn't possible today because he'll pardon himself; that's okay, we can still lynch GM.

##unvote
##vote GM

On June 14 2013 02:55 Blazinghand wrote:
Hello friends. I'm back from dinner and ready to party. I suppose a VA lynch isn't possible today because he'll pardon himself; that's okay, we can still lynch GM.

##unvote
##vote GM

On May 22 2013 14:50 Blazinghand wrote:


Well sorry man, I just don't think of you as like top scum #1. I've made a lot of promises about things I'd read about and reads I'd give, and after briefly discussing you with stutters I had other fish to fry and dinners to eat. Pretending to be mad isn't going to help anyone here.



1) well, in the event of a 3p SK, there's probably 3 scum, and generally as a rule I try to focus on a small number of scumreads. At the moment, I'd say they're GK, then you and DI in the back (though this needs to be expanded on)
2) clearly you weren't, or you missed posts while writing your posts. You asked what scumreads I had about JJD after I walked back my JJD scumread.
3) ok
4) I'll get to you after I get to some other promises that I made first.





Um, I don't know where I'm lying about you. Like, most of what I said was literally cut/pasted or paraphrased from previous posts in my filter, so if I was lying now, why didn't you call me out when I said it during D1?

Look WoS, you're being an abrasive guy and I get that that's your thing right now, but don't shit up the thread during my last 12 hours alive. I need to make use of this time. If your goal is to say I'm scum, ok, fine. If you're not sure I'm scum and are trying to determine my alignment as you claim, then go right ahead. I'll answer your questions.

Believe it or not, my read on you is based on in part D1 stuff, as are a lot of my reads in all of my games. Just because it's now D2 (and a very quiet D2 at that, since scum doesn't want to rock the boat of this lynch) doesn't mean what happened D1 doesn't matter. If I had a scumread on you D1 and didn't push it well enough, fine-- that's on me. Sorry for not getting you lynched during D1, when I was playing in 3 games at once.

I've put lots of effort into this game today, but it's spread around. It's not gonna be 50% WoS, 50% non-WoS. From everyone's perspective individually, most of my talking is going to be about people that's not them.

Really though, let's keep it civil. I need to make this time count, whereas you have more time than me to accomplish your goals.