PTP IV - Demon's Run

On June 04 2013 11:06 WaveofShadow wrote:

Me too. Can't decide if I want to try this out or not.
Edit: Oh yeah I did already. Herp

On June 21 2013 07:21 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I have never seen the show. I'm gonna get lynched first x(

On June 21 2013 14:20 Kurumi wrote:

Your role was at least useful all of the time...

On June 22 2013 08:42 gonzaw wrote:
Omg you saw right through me!
Im getting rusty dayum

On June 22 2013 09:09 gonzaw wrote:
Shush or I'll poison you once (not twice, just once)

On June 22 2013 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also fuck this lovetap bullshit.
I'm a hatar.
Straight up.

On June 22 2013 10:37 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:

I will not fall for such a weak excuse. You will not trick me into stopping my surveillance!

On June 22 2013 13:16 Acrofales wrote:

And?

On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote:
I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.

BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?

On June 23 2013 04:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


does that mean I just offed myself? Because I'd laugh too

On June 23 2013 05:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
hosts totally afk the shot is real guys

On June 23 2013 06:30 WaveofShadow wrote:

Did you or did you not create his role?
How do you know these things?

On June 23 2013 06:48 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I do not think trolling is a scum tell. His reactions to BC shooting me where that of a town berating a bad vigi.

On June 23 2013 05:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
why are you trying to play like in LXI? (need i remind you of the outcome?)

You could be trying to improve instead of repeating the same old mistakes, and you not doing so has a clear motivation as mafia since it's ez town meta to mold yourself into
As town, the explanation is basically that you are unwilling to learn from your mistakes. Do you want me to think that of you? Cuz it seems like you do.

On June 23 2013 07:50 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
I am not seeing what makes you think he is asusming BC and myself are town. He was comparing BC to another game and saying if he is town, he is not playing well. Dandel would assume that BC would not continue to play poorly and instead concluded that he is scum. *My interpretation, Dandel may have been thinking something else.

On June 23 2013 06:59 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Berating a vigi who will kill people that are anti town is in hopes that he will not continue day killing for no reason. A very pro town thing. However, since Dandel is in the same position as me i.e. Threatened by an over-emotional vigi. It makes sense that he is going to call him out on making a bad decision.

On June 24 2013 04:44 Crossfire99 wrote:
Sigh...I didn't want to have to do this, but looking at the voting thread and thread sentiment I have to speak up. I created sk8r's role and know how he survived his shot. That is all. Now lynch someone besides him because I don't think he is mafia.

On June 24 2013 04:46 kitaman27 wrote:


So are you saying his role was responsible for the BC roleblock?

On June 24 2013 04:53 Crossfire99 wrote:
Stop asking how sk8r's role works. I created it and know how it works and know how he survived. The only reason anyone else from this point would need to know how his role works is if they're scum. If you're town, you don't need to know how he survived, all you should care about is that he is alive. Leave it alone.

On June 24 2013 04:58 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
In case someone thinks we are actually making some kind of Scum powerplay. Do you honestly think a scum would sacrifice themself so early to protect another scum? The fos against me is fairly weak, after I revealed my RP and had it confirmed by crossfire.

So we know that

1. I did not roleblock, and suspect BC to be lying of his vigi attack. The only thing that suggests it was a real attack was the post by the host about processing a few actions. I know one of those actions is mine.

2. I can confirm my town alignment with my role. I don't think crossfire meant for it to work that way, but I also don't think he expected me to be able to activate it at day. Loophole master sk8.

3. Zephids FOS against me started after he had a strong lynch train on him. So obviously he did not suspect me or was not posting about it, and then decided I was the easiest target to derail his lynch on to.

My top two scum reads are Bloody Cobbler and Zephids. After I do a filter on Acro I will post a read on him. But he is my gut feeling for third scum.

On June 24 2013 05:27 Zephirdd wrote:
Also I'm sheeping Dandel too. He went from totally mafia to the towniest guy around for me.

On June 24 2013 06:23 kitaman27 wrote:
You didn't notice the full page of votes on austin in the voting thread?

On June 25 2013 06:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I'm a town head that doesn't flip.
PS geript I'm pretty sure there is one thing about the role that was changed that you didn't intend.
I likes it though.

On June 25 2013 10:01 gonzaw wrote:
Oh shit I forgot about geript. Where the fuck is he? lol

On June 25 2013 12:53 Zephirdd wrote:
Dandel is town btw. Being the creator of my role, he noticed when I activated my role to use my vigi shot last night, and prodded me to know my reasons. A scum would never do that.

On June 26 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah geript...I don't understand what that does

On June 26 2013 06:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh hey geript's thing works.

On June 26 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote:
So what's going on? Why do I have to choose between geript and kita?

On June 26 2013 06:35 Dandel Ion wrote:

well then he should be dead now if the thing is simple majority

On June 26 2013 22:45 kitaman27 wrote:
I just checked and apparently the TARDIS may be used during the day. It wasn't quite clear based on the description.

I can confirm what Sk8r said is true about the fact that mafia cannot activate the device twice in one cycle without the passing being randomized. I'll name the player that I will be passing the device to before the deadline, to prove that both Sk8r and myself are not scum buddies. If he flips scum like I predict, maybe we can finally end the survivor witch hunt.

In other fantastic news, Sk8r's clarification has probably saved my life as I can now activate the self-protect from the TARDIS to save myself from geript's kp. I probably shouldn't be telling town this as it opens me up to a risk lynch, but hopefully you guys will take the fact that I'm not holding onto the TARDIS myself as a sign of good faith, considering how powerful it's confirmation abilities are.

For the people that are saying that I need to be lynched before LYLO, I don't really understand why. You mentioned that you want to avoid a kingmaker scenario, but if you're going to lynch me, it essentially brings you one cycle closer to LYLO since it means that you can't use it on a scum lynch, the mafia team get an extra cycle of night hits, and mafia vote ratio improves. Even if we reach kingmaker, I'll still vote with town. Looking back through TL's history of survivors, nearly all of them side with town. What is the point of playing this game if there is no scum hunting objectives. It's not like I've even played anti-town this game. I've shared my suspicion of Meapak 3 different times. I've shared my suspicion of Sk8r at least five times. I still plan to share my reads on the remaining half of the players when I have time, but it seems silly that people are expecting the survivor to do all the work, while the rest of town sits around and does nothing. Why exactly is a pro-town third party role leading the lynch anyways? You guys do realize that the mafia kp is likely on the line this cycle? People are saying that this could be some elaborate plan to survive to endgame as scum, but is that really the scenario that is most likely? Am I really the player most likely to flip scum remaining in this game? That's nonsense.

On June 26 2013 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Does anyone want to reconsider the vote and just shoot geript instead? Dandel, you included him in your carpet bomb list, didn't you? What is there even to call BS about? It's not just me describing how the TARDIS works, its also Sk8r. I've already explained how the device can be used to prove that we aren't scum buddies and even if you think we are scumbuddies, the third player to receive the device can confirm what we're saying. Are you even bothering to think about this logically or are you falling into the scum trap of tunneling the third party all game long because you don't want to have to push actual scum reads.

On June 28 2013 07:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
everyone pile onto geript then

On June 28 2013 09:13 gonzaw wrote:


Hey geript, can you sing a song to me?
I'm in the mood.

You don't have much else to do, so can you do me that favor? Pretty please?

On June 28 2013 09:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Geript. Are you mad I checked you?

On June 28 2013 20:31 Xatalos wrote:
If Kitaman27 actually is a Survivor, then I'm 99% certain that both austinmcc and Crossfire99 are scum. If he's just a scum though, only one of austinmcc/Crossfire99 is most likely scum.

Which one then.. Currently leaning more towards austinmcc. Here are some arguments speaking for austinmcc:

1) geript's filter is basically one big lie, since he's scum. With that in mind, there's no reason to believe that he was telling the truth about misreading the thread in a hurry and accidentally voting for sk8r instead of austinmcc. Now, one more vote would have been needed in addition to geript's to lynch austinmcc. BUT I can certainly see him, as the scum he was, making a panic decision and voting for sk8r, not willing to risk that some hero would show up during the last 10mins to get austinmcc lynched.

Normally a no-lynch would be very beneficial for scum, so it *could* also be just setting up a no-lynch to stall town. But if austinmcc was town, geript would also be scared of his potentially imba blue ability and somewhat likely want to kill him regardless. In addition, it would be much safer to just vote for austinmcc and avoid the suspicion raised by doing a stunt like he did there (if austinmcc was town, that is).

Conclusion: everything fits best if geript and austinmcc are scum together, but it's possible, although less likely, that geript merely wanted a no-lynch anyway (or he's telling the truth about his colossal failure, which I seriously doubt at this point).

2) austinmcc has played very differently compared to his townie playstyle. When I last played with him, he was a respected "leader" scumhunter, much like Gonzaw currently. This game he has mostly posted filler and setup speculation - very easy and non-draining topics for scum.

3) If geript and Kitaman27 are both scum, the scumteam would probably want one of them to remain as a "hidden scum". This fits with austinmcc being apparently very helpful, buddying and more active/townish lately.

4) Earlier cases and separate arguments by myself and others against austinmcc (see earlier posts).

5) I think I'm going to make a more exhaustive and "actual" case against austinmcc when I have more time and I get back to my computer.

On June 28 2013 23:39 gonzaw wrote:





If it's a lie, why isn't geript voting for kitaman?

On July 03 2013 07:44 Acrofales wrote:
GG. Gratz scum!

Austin town and scum MVP!

On July 03 2013 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Honestly I do agree a little bit with geript's balance whine and think kita should have just been scum. Even though we won town still had waaaaaay too much leniency to fuck up.