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On June 04 2013 11:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Posting here so this thread can show up on my subscribed list Me too. Can't decide if I want to try this out or not. Edit: Oh yeah I did already. Herp | ||
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On June 04 2013 23:58 geript wrote: I require you to /in. Who else will I be able to tunnel? Anything for you, sweetie. But I reserve the right to /out if I don't think I'll be able to handle this and Roulette at the same time. Also if I can't think of a good power. /in | ||
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What made you think you'd be able to handle that?? | ||
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I forgot this was Dr. Who like every other goddamn mafia game in this subforum. Had such a good role idea too. | ||
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On June 21 2013 06:14 HiroPro wrote: I dunno. I don't ever remember seeing any Doctor Who games before the one that GreyMisT made. I could swear there were two in the past couple months. Too lazy to check. | ||
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On June 21 2013 19:02 Dandel Ion wrote: Soon you'll find out what a one-shot poisson will do. | ||
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Was hoping for it to start before I go out for a bit but whatevs. Be back later then. | ||
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Let's see: Dandel amuses me. The fact that I don't have to be on a scum team with him this game makes it even better since I don't have to freak out at everything he does. Having never participated in a game like this before I have to ask: are we supposed to be tryharding at all or fucking around all game? There appear to be people firmly entrenched in both camps and I can't honestly say which I want to be a part of yet. Geript: No love for you. DRIVE THAT TRAIN STRAIGHT INTO MY TUNNEL BABY I don't know anybody else who posted so I don't have anything else to say. Actually I do know solstice and BC but I don't care about them. So, who got my role? | ||
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I'm a hatar. Straight up. | ||
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I'ma go play a bot game for my win of the day. Dandel you should play with me. Why don't I have you on my flist? Is it 'cause you're SCUM??? | ||
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On June 22 2013 10:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Anyone potentially activating your role when they have 0 information on you is retarded. You attempting to force said issue makes you more likely scum than town. See I feel like I've unconsciously joined the tryhard camp because I was thinking this exact same thing. | ||
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On June 22 2013 11:07 Acrofales wrote: Either scum was told what the town is called or DI is (unfortunately) town. And before you guys start, I say unfortunately, because I was looking forward to lynching the crap out of him. A big wat to this post. Acro, y u good host but bad mafia player? | ||
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On June 22 2013 11:21 Acrofales wrote: Nobody reads the OP (except me to go check up on this shit). Especially not DI. Hence him mentioning the Alliance specifically means it was either mentioned in his role PM, or it was in the scumQT. Or DI suddenly became a try-hard. Fat chance of that. Given that I don't think that that kinda stuff is particularly likely to be in the OP, I think it was in his role PM. GG. DI is in my town circle. Fuck everybody else. So what you're saying, is DI is either town or mafia. GG SCUMTEAM ACRO WINZ | ||
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##Vote: Acrofales kita. kita. He scum. Vote fer him. | ||
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Now I really wish I could stream. And Steam. Gonna go play Binding of Isaac on my bro's computer. Nobody poison me while I'm gone, k? | ||
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Catching up. | ||
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On June 23 2013 01:46 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: StrongandBig, WaveofShadow, and BC are the scums 100%. Sk8 for MVP. Thank you, good night. Also about my role, the player who wrote it wanted to gain an advantage on player roles. Everyone suspects something, but only he and I know what it does and now he knows the role he received and mine. Possibly more if he is scum. I thought about not doing it, but then he still wins if he is scum by knowing i'm out there not using my abilities. Meta-scum > Care to explain exactly what you're talking about in this post? Also sorry about letting my tryhard pants fall off, guys, I forgot to put on a belt and someone pantsed me. In all honestly the reason my posing twas crap then picked up and devolved again is because having never played in this kind of a game before I wasn't exactly sure how seriously people take it and how hard town/scum really try to win (ie do people scumhunt as normal with crazy as fuck roles flying around). It seems as though while there is likely to be more trolling in a game sch as this, people definitely do still want to win; as such I will begin to contribute in earnest. I'm still not sure of you, Acro. Why haven't you commented much on what Xatalos has to say about me aside from you sharing his suspicions? I am arguably his strongest scumread and so I probably warrant discussion, yet you keep bringing conversation into role-claiming/setup speculation type stuff. | ||
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On June 23 2013 02:07 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: First part - My suspicions currently based on posting and defending. I don't know about the Meta, perhaps these players are known for defending other towns. Note I have not changed my vote. Second part - Self explanatory. Whoever wrote my role now knows that they wrote it. If I die, it's because of this and that they flipped mafia. I don't think it's self-explanatory at all. Acro, I am neither a fail scum or an inept townie. It's not going to be that easy for you, my man. As far as scumreads go, don't have any yet, aside from you. If you're so keen to drive conversation along towards other reads all of a sudden, do you have any others? | ||
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On June 23 2013 02:15 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: It doesn't yet. I was letting town know this so if something happens to me then we know the writer of MY card is scum. Ideally thats the only reason why you would force your target to reveal to do their ability is so that the writer are aware of it and can respond according to their alignment. How were you forced to reveal your ability exactly? I really don't follow your train of thought. | ||
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On June 23 2013 03:10 geript wrote: Kurumi is trying to make sense. Kurumi is not drawing. Kurumi is scum. Discuss. Explain. Never played with Kurumi as far as I can remember. | ||
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On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript. BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch? This question is very interesting. Very interesting indeed. Why would you ask such a question Kurumi? | ||
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On June 23 2013 03:38 Kurumi wrote: I think BC played all of PTP games and died D1 twice. So I am just asking if he's planning a quick leave again. I'm still not sure why you asked this question. I'm sure BC didn't plan to exit the game on D1 in those games. | ||
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I am fucking BORED. Solstice. Whoscum? | ||
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I feel like we're missing/haven't heard from half the thread in a while. So much lurk = so much boring. ##Unvote I want to talk with more people I actually know somewhat. Kita, geript, DI? Where yall at? | ||
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On June 23 2013 03:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Discrediting you? Defending myself? I can arguably be doing the second only in the fact I AM PUSHING YOU TO ACTUALLY POST YOUR REASONINGS. You walked into a thread voted me before I posted and then have not explained jack shit aside from "i think hes scum" Good job. You aren't trying to convince anyone else I am scum. IE you aren't trying to get your highest scum read lynched IE you aren't doing playing to the town win con. Pity unvote? Sounds more like you want a reason to back off me to avoid any heat. Tough shit you now have people watching your play. As for me discrediting you? How did I do so? I asked you questions you refuse to answer. You say you are committed to pushing me but you haven't attempted it once. You then say making a list is not scummy? It is if you provide 0 reasoning and refuse to provide said reasoning. I dunno, the paranoia he's exhibited towards his role and his constant discussing it, along with the usage of it in the first place makes it seem as though he knows people have been watching him all game thus far. Whether he's worried about being under pressure from you remains to be seen. The lack of proper play is concerning but I am not convinced yet. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change. First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend. Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be. Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed. I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos. Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias. First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend. You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that? Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be. I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad? You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: ( 1 )I'm defending my FOS. You guys can think that I'm the worst player ever if you want. In all honestly I have no real reads, but you asked for some, so I attemped to give them. ( 2 ) Also BloodyCobbler has revealed he has a killing ability. ( 3 ) My role is pretty weak / lame. I just giving you my opinion, you know in this game that is based on opinions? ( 4 ) Also if I was Mafia, It would be pretty dumb of me to gather this much attention. I find that this day has actually been fairly useful. Added the numbers myself: 1 - FoS is meaningless. if you have no reads, say so, and come up with some after you do some real reading of the thread. 2 - Are you serious? 3 - Once again, this has absolutely no alignment indication whatsoever. It doesn't matter what people's opinions of their roles are or whether they are in fact weak or strong---people can act in whatever way they feel like while having those roles. 4 - WIFOM Hey Acro. If I'm noobie town or bad scum, what does that make this guy? BC what did you just do | ||
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The vote on Acro wasn't for shits and giggles, but the manner in which he has posted has somewhat appeased me a little lately. I think kita summed it up nicely in that Acro will remain on my radar but I could look elsewhere for now. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: unless he has an ability that defends from day shots, yes, yes he is. See, now we have a problem. If he flips newbie town (which may or may not have been completely obvious depending on how you think about it) then you may again be finding yourself getting lynched D1. Reasoning: I don't think his posting warranted a vig shot as he was contributing. This means the rationale for a shot like that is supposedly that BC thinks Skater is scum, which given the way he has played isn't completely obvious. Skater could very well have been noob town and BC is good enough to know this. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:34 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Well this is awkward. Am i not supposed to post if I get shot. Will there be an rp about me dying. Either host is AFK at the moment or BC faked something/something got messed up. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: See, this is the mentality of keeping people like kush/grush/etc... alive until late game when no one can read them at all but because they lived so long they are almost always given a free pass regardless of alignment. Vigi's job is to clear town of mafia/people who are actively hampering towns ability to win. You can disagree with my shot however you want, but I am sick and tired of having to deal with this shit behaviour. How could you possibly know to put them in the same boat as Grush/Kush? Isn't this his first game here? This honestly looks like a masking attempt kita, don;t you see it? Like, I get the frustration and I'm all on board to start policy lynching/vigging people like Kush/Vayne/whoever in other games, but I don't see what Skater was doing as actively hurting town, and it's WAY too early in the game to determine that he'd be one of those left alive at LYLO. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The role is not jack the ripper and no one can confirm my role, because I got my own role. I'm waiting for someone to WIFOM that 'scum BC would never say something this blatantly scummy.' I don't plan on letting this go. Waiting on the Skater flip right now. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: its the behaviour hes already shown. Who cares if hes alive at lylo? Its the behaviour hes showing. Tell me how his play currently is any different from Kush/Vayne/etc... currently? He has one of the largest filters this game already and has actively admitted to not having reads/trolling. Fuck that shit. Stop defending trolls and start punishing them. The only players I will take shit like this from are ones like Chez who actively do help win games even when trolling. He has actively engaged people in discussion and shown interest in the game unlike those I mentioned. I can name like 6 other people in the thread who haven't given reads and have trolled. Hell I trolled at the start and I'm pretty sure one of my posts included the fact that I didn't have any scumreads yet. You going to shoot me? Again, I agree with the general sentiment of eliminating the chaff from town before it becomes an issue and given the chance I may start putting it into practice myself in other games. But these are KNOWN problems we're talking about. This? Terrible shot if it's true, BC. Just fucking terrible. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Please answer the bolded part. IE where is this information located. I can't find mafia team # in the OP It always baffles me when people ask this. 16 players means 4 scum. | ||
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On June 23 2013 04:59 Dandel Ion wrote: he's obviously trying to look like a terrible townie because obviously a townie wouldn't know basic math. RIGHT?!?!??!1 Hey Dandel. Why would BC troll now when he's essentially basing everything he's done on the fact that Skater is trolling? | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:02 Dandel Ion wrote: Well, because he's scum and not good enough as scum to fake contributions properly. Basically. Then does his recent explanation of 'when it doesn't explicitly say' occur to you as being likely? Also fuck all these role teases and shit I wish it didn't help scum to know what these roles actually did so I could ask IM SO CURIOUSSSS So the fact that apparently Skater TRIED to get shot at night means there's some sort of reflect/protection/immunity involved? And the fact that Geript knows about it means he is the guy who wrote it. Given he was included in the lovetapping this probably makes sense. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:06 Acrofales wrote: While BC is wiley enough to plan this, I believe him. He was clearly foreshadowing this with his objection to my plan. So he made himself a dayvig. The question is still whether he is scum or town, but I don't think we should lynch him regardless of what sk8r flips. I don't think BC has been acting particularly scummy, although so far he has only been going batshit insane tunnelmode on that sk8r guy. It just feels like the start of Personality 2, and I think this is more BC losing his temper than BC making a calculated scumplay to vig shot some noobie who does not feel like much of a threat. Yeah I don't buy it. I've seen BC lose his temper. BC knows that people have seen him lose his temper. Can you link me something from Personality 2 (apparently an infamous game that nobody likes to talk about) that indicates why you think this more likely town BC? | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Semantics? You used clear math as an absolute. Go fuck yourself. If the hosts haven't revealed a number you can easily say "it is likely 75% / 25%" Or some nonsense but using an absolute with hidden information implies knowledge town don't have. There is no reason not to believe the game is balanced according to standards. I have yet to be in a game where I was not right about the number of scum simply based on numbers. Yes 3rd party/shennanies are possible, but why you would cling to the idea that it's 'impossible to know' how many scum there are is absurd. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: For no reason? So you view someone posting shit with 0 reasoning behind it then making up bullshit reasons for said previous shit, then saying "luls jk guys none of it was legit" is no reason? Jesus christ. It's not no reason but given what you claim to have shot him for, it's not sufficient reason when you could have given him more time to contribute in a way you felt might have been positive. Hell if you felt he was being toxic to the thread you could have stopped talking to him and started doing other shit like solstice asked. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:15 s0Lstice wrote: WoS, you are suggesting that BC, aware of his meta, is impersonating his town meta (losing temper) for the purposes of manipulation? If so, how is this more likely than the simple explanation that 'BC is playing to his meta.' Remember Les Mafia? That's how. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: So? Who cares that I reveal that I am a vig. I used my shot on someone creating an anti town atmosphere thus making the game easier to solve once you are flipped. It also creates information about myself for the thread to read and determine my own alignment. Seems like I played intelligently. What did you do? Troll and act like a tard in hopes a vig would shoot you. Sad thing that you didnt think a day vig would get you. Oh and by the way, he clearly was not trying to get vigged, but shot by scum at night. Which he mentioned himself. I'm not sure if that's a slip or intentional. Solstice, you think it's more likely that he's just being emotional, right? Do you think BC slipped on that because he's actually raging or just inserted that himself for someone like me to notice? I am also realizing what Acro said about this shitting the hell out of the thread is true. Scum as of late have been making a whole lot of 'discussion-ending' plays it seems and this could very well be one of them. I'd still like to consider who is scum outside of BC for now. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:21 s0Lstice wrote: The reason meta works at all is because people play to it without realizing it. If meta was manipulable i.e. I know my meta and can therefore use it to confuse people...then meta would break down entirely. I think you believe what you are saying though, so I don't care so much about how correct I think your view on it is. You really think something this obvious that people recognize BC for is something he'd do without realizing it? This isn't a subtle tell we're talking about here like misspelling words or using certain phrases. Meta is completely manipulable on a grand scale; it's the subtle things that actually make meta reads useful. I found it particularly easy to play to my town meta on all the obvious points that people recognized me for, but I can think of a couple things I definitely did completely differently that game that nobody picked up on that would have gotten me nailed. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:24 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I never claimed that I am a blue. Where are you getting at with this? Just because I am using a different strategy than you would use does not make it poor play or illogical. You've been playing with Vayne haven't you? | ||
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Only played one game with him so far but it was pretty obvious how town he was in that game; in this one he hasn't done shit and he said he'd be back. | ||
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I don't remember you pushing Kush until he was one of the very few in the game left. I am well aware you rail against shitposting but as I've already said I don't personally take your meta as good evidence here because you are obviously aware of it. Maybe you will be able to convince me if there's something I'm missing. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Tell me this. If I am scum and you think I am faking my town meta just answer me this. Why would I bother shooting someone I think is actively fucking with the thread when its far easier to sit back and let him be a fucktard? Why would I not wait until someone appeared everyone wanted dead and shoot them, or just hold off and wait and strike at a more advantageous moment? I honestly don't care if you think I am scum or not, but arguing based on the fact I can change my own meta while not accounting for the rest of the things that should be accounted for is odd. Because I didn't think he was being fucktarded enough to mess with the thread. I don't see any evidence that 'letting him be fucktarded' remains in scum interests in any way since at least to me Skater was well on his way to proving his towniness to me. I've said so and argued for it. | ||
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Yamato shitposting I can see someone making an argument for, but Palmar? Yeah he played like ass that game and we lost 'cause we got fucked at LYLO but is he KNOWN for that kind of play? Isn't Palmar widely regarded as a good player? You're right in that we should have offed Palmar way earlier in the game just to remove all reasonable doubt, and if this is your thought process rather than the fact that he was shitposting I might be able to see your POV, but this doesn't seem to be your train of thought towards Skater. Like...it's so fucking EARLY in the game. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:43 s0Lstice wrote: The issue is that if you can convincingly do something as either alignment, then that particular thing is not part of your town or scum meta. You saying you were aware of what people attributed to town you, and thus could include them in your scum play, makes those elements not part of your meta at all, despite people thinking they did. This is why meta arguments fail so often...because elements of peoples play that should go in to a meta case are things that are not reliably controllable/stem from the subconscious. Also, being aware of ones meta as scum (or more specifically, things that other people typically assign to scum or town you, whether correct or not) follows the same rules as all other scum play. You are putting on a show by falsely playing to your town 'meta,' and can fall in to the same traps that scum fall into when they are making fake cases/fake contributions etc. To be clear, I really don't care how this discussion you and I are having applies to BC. I asked to get a clearer view of your alignment WoS. Stepping out for a bit now. I disagree with this somewhat but I'll accept it. What interests me is this being solely an effort to divine my alignment. Did you come to any conclusions? I also don't recall you asking these sorts of things in Les Mafia. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:45 kitaman27 wrote: Right now I think it's more likely that BC is a trigger happy town that shot judge for policy, than a mafia scum who is trying to get away with an easy shot. Like I mentioned before, a scum day vig that doesn't have to post in the thread to pull off the shot can just shoot a high priority target anonymously and get away with it at no cost. If what BC says is true, he wouldn't even have to worry about another townie knowing his role was responsible for the shot because he created it himself. I'm not sure what he would have to gain claiming responsibility for the shot in the thread as mafia, other than having the opportunity to yell at a bunch of people and shift focus to himself, but that's not really worth it this early in the game. I don't like this post, kita. You worry me. You don't consider the fact at all that he did this knowing that one of his scumteam created the role or something? The real reasoning behind what BC did with the little information we got is very easy to obfuscate and you only consider the towny implications. And as someone just mentioned, how do you know he didn't have to post what he did about jack the ripper in the thread? BC's most recent post regarding Palmar has placated me somewhat because if anyone is capable of this kind of play I'd believe it to be BC; it's the timing of the shot that just really bothers me. The 'shoot first, ask questions later' is not in anyway indicative of a towny mindset no matter how angry you are. There are many things BC could have done that I've argued would have been more effective, especially if it means wasting a vig shot on a towny that could have been effective later on. | ||
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Is that REALLY believable? | ||
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On June 23 2013 06:19 geript wrote: So here's where I'm at: 1. BC shot skater 2. The shot was real 3. Skater is close enough to being dead 4. He's not going to flip or stop posting I'd rather talk about Kurumi not trolling. Did you or did you not create his role? How do you know these things? | ||
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hai guise I back. Gonzaw whassup? | ||
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I'm sure of it. ##Vote: s0Lstice I probably won't be around until later but guys trust me on this. WAGON OF JUSTICEEEEEEE | ||
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On June 24 2013 02:11 Xatalos wrote: Ugh, now this feels like talking to Kurumi (=a brick wall). If I'm in "confirmation bias land", then you're in "not doing anything land". Except dodging questions, throwing dirt and bandwagoning... This post of solstice's is what confirmed him as scum to me. Look back at Les Mafia, tell me when solstice was ever this needlessly belligerent. | ||
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I tried my damn hardest to get back here for consolidation and it's going to be a no lynch? Why aren't we voting solstice again? | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:12 s0Lstice wrote: WoS, you voted me on a meta argument based on one game. mind bottling, you can't be serious right now It's boggling. And no, that's not my entire reasoning I just haven't had more than 5 minutes to sit down since yesterday evening. Trust though. Trust. I guess you're not getting lynched today but I will stop at nothing, NOTHING to see you swing. And when you flip red I will be lauded a hero. | ||
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I'll switch if so. I fucking hate no lynch. I want BLOOD | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:19 kitaman27 wrote: I'd much rather do s0Lsticec than S&B. For me, s&b is a complete lurker null, compared to s0L where I'm leaning mafia. WoS, if you'll stop at nothing to see him flipped, why are you so quick to conclude that he's not getting lynched? Because I don't have time to help push him right now. | ||
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YES ALL ABOARD THE SOLSTICE TRAIN WOO WOOOOOOO | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:22 gonzaw wrote: snb is getting modkilled/replaced (hasn't voted) right? Fuck I haven't even finished reading the thread, much less filters. Fuck this ##Unvote: Zepphird ##Vote: solstice Come on sheep me Zepphird still looks bad...but I get a little less confident based on him being Zepphird. I get the feeling he'd be scummy looking as town as well, and I dunno about some stuff he posts I can't really read it well I get more inclined to solstice. He acted with an aggressive approach to all pressure against him, my case, etc. He goes around like he's 100% confident Zepphird is scum, and well I don't like that attitude. I don't like his attitude of "tough macho guy" he's putting (seems he's acting like he's BH or something), and in contrast with his initial behaviour back in early D1 I just feel it's a weird contrast, I don't really think he'd have that contrast as town. Not many people commented on him other than Xatalos and others. Hey kita, you make a whole post explaining why solstice is scum but you vot sk8 wtf? Fuck I noticed this and forgot to comment on this. K gotta go swimming with my guy 'cause it's like 35 C out I'll be back later tonight. We DON'T want a no-lynch, come on town do the right thing, solstice's blood will drip RED | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:24 Kurumi wrote: I am not swapping out of sk8r. I am not buying how he suddenly turned out not to be scum and how crossfire helped you to believe that. He never WAS scum. Do you honestly think that he's a bad a scum player as he's been? It's honestly stupid that we have people here who have played more than one game on TL and they honestly believe that sk8 could be scum atm. SWITCH YOUR VOTES | ||
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Hey Kurumi. Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles. Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so? Also I know who wrote my role. :D | ||
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On June 24 2013 06:45 Zephirdd wrote: Welp. I don't think geript is mafia. I do think the austin lynch had no mafia on it(Dandel,Xatalos,kitaman,xfire,gonzaw all feel townie to me, xfire less than others but not that much). I think that if austin was town, scum would make sure to hammer him 100% as it would not bring in that much suspicion towards the hammer(it was a wtf-wagon) I think M_Z disappearing conveniently is bad I think Kurumi tunneling sk8r is bad I think austin and BC being afk is bad I think that the way the sk8r wagon worked makes him look bad, but a lot of shit I said about sk8r had a basic assumption which was wrong I think WoS is TOO inactive for his own good, and that he was a much better player on roulette @Xatalos killing an extra town player on day 1 is extremely beneficial for scum because it's one less PR to worry about. I agree. I should have a little time now before the guy wakes up and pizza gets here n' shit so if people are mad at me you can let me have it to my face. Otherwise I'll be back later tonight. | ||
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On June 24 2013 06:49 Kurumi wrote: He is dead, he's gone, he is not coming back. Unless someone really wanted to recreate what I did in one of the PTP games. Oh hmm I saw ##regenerate and immediately thought he could do it after dying. I guess he had to do it while still alive. | ||
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If the person who wrote my role was fishing for it, are they more likely to be scum? 'Cause I mean...I'm curious and all as to who got the one I wrote but it's obviously going to reveal itself on its own eventually, so I don't need to fish for it. | ||
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Yeah if I was around I would have hammered 100% 'cause I love seein' me some flip even though I haven't read into austin in the slightest. Take that whatever way you will, but I'm telling the truth. I think it's kinda funny that it was even insinuated that I should be modkilled because I didn't vote btw. Like....was it MZ who said 'yeah don't modkill/warn Wave 'cause he wasn't around for the solstice kill.' Even if it was a scumplan of mine to conveniently disappear, it's obvious that I was around and voted immediately prior to that so there is no need for a modkill or warning. I don't even see the point in bringing it up. I find it less odd that I am being suspected of afking on purpose than MZ's defense of me, and those two things are definitely incompatible. | ||
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Anyway, gonzaw can you answer the question I asked to no one in particular earlier? I'm curious as to what people might think. | ||
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On June 24 2013 10:15 austinmcc wrote: First you let your buddies shoot me in the game. Now you try to lynch me in THIS game, where I get my own friggin' role. Marv isn't here this time either. So...it's you or kita. You guys are the PTP fun police. Really. Are we going to believe him now too? Remember people, 6% chance. So we're talking MASSIVE chances that BC is lying about him having gotten his own role, and now austin too. I guess I shoud actually start reading austin. | ||
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On June 24 2013 10:13 gonzaw wrote: This? Well....I dunno. In my personally experience, I want the guy that gets my role to: -Be town -Live until LYLO (or a lot) so he can use it. I'd personally like knowing who got my role to analyze that stuff. I don't want someone dying and flipping my role without him using it first and experiencing fully If I was scum I'd like to know who got my role to NOT shoot him at night and let him live until end-game or something (unless there's a party-pooper marv in my scumteam >_> ), so if a scum made your role...congrats you are going to live for a long time Also I dunno if YOU got my role. You said something like "This role is awesome!" and "I know who made my role! :D" which,considering my role is....let's say "peculiar", makes me think you got it lol I didn't get your role. | ||
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On June 24 2013 10:24 gonzaw wrote: Well, it's either true or a scumbuddy of his made his role. If it's the 2nd one, then his scumbuddy CANT claim he made austin's role, so whose role does his scumbuddy claim he made? There are 4 options: 1)Another player: Then the guy that REALLY made that guy's role will cc and he's toast 2)Another player, but someone another scumbuddy of his made the role of: Then the same process is repeated with the other scumbuddy, who has no character to claim he made the role of 3)Himself: Because you are going to believe 2 people saying "I made my own role!", instead of one of them saying he made austin's? 4)The player austin made the role of: In this case, austin makes the role of player X, but claims he made his own. In fact a scumbuddy made his role, and now the scumbuddy claims he made player X's role. If so....for what purpose? This doesn't make any sense other than convince people "there's little chance austin made his own role! He scum!". Unless there is a convincing reason (4) could have happened, then it's most likely true, regardless of his alignment (or maybe he is scum with BC and they did (3) lol) Except the problem here is nobody is claiming roles yet so none of the above can be proven one way or another. Until that happens I find it honestly ridiculous that we are to believe that 2 players in a game of 16 somehow managed to land their own roles. | ||
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Makes me think he's likely to be town considering he's been complaining about it all day and I highly doubt he's been setting it up for so long. Gonzaw if you have my role and are town, there probably isn't a good way to use it, at least not the way you've been playing. I am also unsure as to whether or not any changes were made to it. You should just relax and have fun with it. It has potential but it probably requires a lot of thinking on your part when activated. IF you have it. Will be in and out until later this evening. | ||
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I'll read it when I get the chance. | ||
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Ill tell you a secret though, I don't think I've ever been this inactive in any game I've played. The time with BC/sk8r is how I play as both scum and town, but of course you're welcome to make what you will of my meta. Ill tell you another secret. I'm not a good lynch. | ||
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On June 25 2013 04:24 gonzaw wrote: How about instead of saying that you explain why the shit MZ said is false? Also, I want to be sure where I want my anger directed towards, you or sk8: What is the 3rd letter of the char you made the role of? I am here to please A bunch of the stuff MZ said is false, yeah. Some of it's probably true too. I don't really feel like defending myself though. As for your role, I'll leave it up to the rest of town. If they think it's a good idea I'll reveal the 3rd letter of the character I wrote for so you can confirm one way or another. + Show Spoiler + PS. I'm sorry if it's mine and you don't like it. I don't know shit about Dr Who, wanted to keep it in line with what I read on the wiki, and it was a role that I'd probably have fun with if I got it, scum or town. >.< | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:05 Zephirdd wrote: why the fuck are you alive U mad? | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:04 Zephirdd wrote: I'm pretty sure he is responsible for solstice's death. When I mention that I created a mason role, he mentions that he knows who created his role => I created his role => he the anonymous dayvig And it's not like we lose much if I'm wrong. There are legit cases on him out there(I'm reading through MZ's case atm) and he's been fairly useless all day 1. Well this doesn't look very good on you now, does it? | ||
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I know who created my role and it wasn't you. I am not the dayvig, nor do I even believe that is simply what you created. | ||
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My role is dorium maldovar, some headless monk thing. I die but ILL NEVER STOP TALKING Geript care to confirm? | ||
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You're scum for shooting me imo when people were still deciding on me one way or the other. You figured since I looked shitty you'd get away with it lalalalalalala | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Meapak is mafia I'd lynch MZ sure. Dem scums always try and mislynch me every game and every game they fail. | ||
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For now consider me someone who is no threat to anyone, yet still ablt to scumhunt. | ||
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PS geript I'm pretty sure there is one thing about the role that was changed that you didn't intend. I likes it though. | ||
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lol that would be hilarious but no. I feel like the mods weren't supposed to flip my role colour when they did the daypost flavour but I guess they took 'doesn't flip' to mean my full role isn't revealed? Anyway, I'd defs look at all those who though I'd be an easy mislynch/da guy who shot me. | ||
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Oh btw no one answered my earlier question. Does the rest of town think it's ok if I reveal the 3rd letter of the role I wrote for to Gonzaw to see if he can confirm? | ||
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I'm glad I didn't waste my time defending myself. Gonzaw the gun you got isn't part of your role is it? I'm decently sure you're toewn so 3rd letter is... | ||
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On June 25 2013 07:30 Zephirdd wrote: Ok so who do we lynch do we sheep BC into sk8r and see the cluterfuck of day 1 again? BC and WoS, yer the two guys I can 100% say are town. also sorry for the shot wos my bad who is the possible next target? Lol. So...you scum? I'm actually really happy you shot me, I might have wasted a town lynch otherwise. | ||
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He figured I'd die and hed look ok when I flipped town because I looked bad anyway. I also find it unlikely that every target MZ pushed is town. Scum always include at least one of their own when pushing multiple people or making lists. | ||
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Should I reveal the role I wrote/force a claim because there is no risk to myself? The fact that I can't think of anyone who has hinted at my role right now worries me. | ||
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On June 25 2013 09:08 Dandel Ion wrote: prolly because you're being vague as fuck about it No, what I mean is all of the tidbits other people have mentioned about their roles and/or rolefishing for others haven't really resonated with me regarding mine. My role has the potential to be quite damaging to town if in scum hands, though I must admit less so now considering I can still talk. | ||
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On June 25 2013 09:16 Dandel Ion wrote: That is not exactly less vague. like ? is this a reference to your role, the role you made, not any reference at all, who fucking knows if you're vague as shit. I am saying the role I created is potentially dangerous in scum hands. It would be even more dangerous if I were unable to talk in thread though to reveal details about the role when it shows up, so I am unsure as to whether or not I should reveal the role I created. | ||
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Are you voting purely out of spite or do you actually think he is scum? | ||
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I can't be too mad at him in the end I suppose since he did help confirm me as town even if a shot went to waste to do so. | ||
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On June 25 2013 23:21 Dandel Ion wrote: Maybe I have wave's, it does look a bit better for mafia than for town now i think about it. But probably not because my role doesn't harm anyone. It's really loving and peaceful. Maybe you DO have mine. Gogo give me some words/letters | ||
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TECHNICALLY not against rules bro. Plus mods allowed it when I gave them a list of things they could change. If you weren't confirmed before you are now though imo. I think. | ||
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Xatalos you used something on me N1? Also I don't know if I can be targeted with abilities or not now. Somebody give me something fun I'm bored being a head. | ||
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I've been busier during the days than usual and my usual relaxing time in the evening has been...occupado with my guy who has decided he no longer wants to sleep normally. We have until tomorrow night I guess so I'll try to get something concrete in before then. | ||
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On June 26 2013 08:24 gonzaw wrote: Goddamit guys do something WOS, Xfire, sk8, etc (I guess austin is included here as well) It's already 24 hours into D2 and some of you either have 0 scumreads so far, or haven't even posted yet wtf? How do you guys expect to win a game like this? Sorry dude, it's coming. Seriously, can't control the whims of a 6 month old teething baby. | ||
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So Dandel DIDN'T have my role, yet somehow knew the third letter in the name? (Which is not the same letter as his role name) Geript confirmed scum? | ||
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So either DI remembered that and somehow knows the role I gave out's name, or it's a big coincidence. Either way I'm not sure what it means...maybe he was masoned with the guy who has my role or some shit? I'm pretty sure scum have it a this point though, which is bad. | ||
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On June 27 2013 02:40 kitaman27 wrote: Err, I take it Dandel was the lucky winner of the gonzaw sweepstakes? o.O Oh I took it as Geript lying about what his role did, in that one of the three people who had to 'vote' for him v kita gets killed instead. | ||
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Random thoughts: if kita is telling the truth we can't afford to kill him since our numbers have dwindled heavily. Gonzaw use your shot; hopefully some of this clusterfuck will be cleared up and hopefully you won't hit BC. | ||
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On June 27 2013 02:57 austinmcc wrote: Did you get a PM from my role last night? I used you as one of my peeps, but I included an alternate target if stumpWoS wasn't a valid target. I did not. I guess I'm not a valid target for role abilities anymore which kinda makes me sad. Who was your alternate target, since you didn't have a problem telling the thread I was your primary? | ||
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On June 27 2013 03:04 austinmcc wrote: Xatalos was my alternate for you. I needed 4 targets, 2 for the role question and 2 for the person question. Figured I'd use you though, to see what exactly is up with your new gig. If Xatalos received a PM, then you can't be targeted by actions. Which I assume means you're really dead and really can't vote, and this isn't anything shenaniganilicious. Oh I still have shenanigans left, but it's certainly good to know I'm immune for the time being. Just waiting to see the outcome of this slot-gun thing. | ||
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So we're what, something like 6-3-1 or 7-2-1 now? I need to go read the thread at some point because I'm pretty sure scum have my role so I gotta see who hasn't claimed yet/we know nothing about them. | ||
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One of those two must have my role and I would assume are scum which is real shitty. I have to figure out if DI actually knew of my role as well because that may offer answers as to why/how he was offed. | ||
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On June 27 2013 03:28 gonzaw wrote: Goddamit people, get your shit together If we keep up like this with players like Xfire, snb, sk8, austin never posting even a single scum read and shit then we won't get far in life. Can someone confirm you made kita's role? That "Fallen Angel" thing? Anything interesting we should know about it? Kita, you are still missing your "reads Mk II". I get the feeling sk8 was lying about my role, the change of mechanics of "counts people that visited you at night" to "FUCKING KILLS SOMEONE THAT VOTED YOU" is not a "nerf", it's "completely changing the role". Also mah nigga never tried hinting to me shit maybe and stuff so maybe he's scum as well (although I get the feeling Xfire has my role) Anyways, voting austin until he starts like doing some other shit and act like he cares. Sk8 for vig shot tonight plz I don't want to think anymore about him, I get more confused as I try, it's like a paradox or something. ##Vote: austin If Xfire has your role then SnB has mine or vice versa. Is there any way to know? I'm again debating just revealing what mine does because if scum indeed has it we might have a problem. | ||
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You just got it? That's Austin's power, right? | ||
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Dandel did know what my role was. 100% I think I know what's happening here. | ||
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On June 27 2013 03:34 gonzaw wrote: Well, I might as well reveal what mine does. I won't reveal the "juicy bits", but effectively, ma niggah last night could do one of the following: 1)Protect himself of 1 KP 2)Busdrive 2 dudes 3)RB a dude I presume he used (1) since nobody claimed RBed or funny stuff Also, right now he has one of 2 new abilities, which if he's scum then we are in bad hands as well :/ I'll wait until he claims what ability he got (he can only know one of them, can't know both) so he doesn't lie or something. At least this is if the role didn't get nerfed so I have no idea. deconduo, if you nerfed a role, did you tell the role creator about the nerf? You know, considering it'd be kind of "unfair", benefiting the people who created roles that WERENT nerfed (thus know 100% what the role does) to people who created roles that did (thus can't know what the role does)? The role I got was technically 'buffed' in that it does something Geript probably didn't intend, so I'm going to see people were not informed of changes. | ||
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On June 27 2013 03:39 gonzaw wrote: Before you do anything WOS; quick question: Will you actually die at some point? Like, you already "died", so are you like supersoft in that other game where he was alive for 1 cycle after death or something?? Yes I can die for real at some point, but that is entirely under my control it seems, since I have Mafia Zhonya's. (or BKB or whatever it is for you DotA players) | ||
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On June 27 2013 03:44 gonzaw wrote: I just noticed something: ...wut Also austin tell me what you are doing with that "poll" stuff, I already forgot what you were going on about it I'm pretty sure that's just flavour. Oh wait you mean that it's coloured red? Yeah I dunno about that. Still think it's just flavour. I flipped blue and if Headless Monk was mafia faction, I wouldn't have gone and claimed it in the thread, now would I have? | ||
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Put it this way. Even if I was lying and am/was scum, consider that I'm not counted in the voters and I can't be targeted by abilities. What threat am I to town atm? Either way, any doubts you have had or may still have at all will be removed once I can reveal the role I wrote, but I can't do it yet because I think something interesting will happen. | ||
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On June 27 2013 03:52 gonzaw wrote: Oh, wait, maybe Dandel wrote "Headless Monk" as your rolename (and was dumb enough to not know they ARE SCUMMY SCUM sorry DI ). Yeah nevermind. YOu are dead soon anyways apparently? Yeah, everybody is soon dead, what a nice cozy game What do you mean Dandel wrote it? Geript wrote my role...did you mean deconduo? | ||
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On June 27 2013 03:50 gonzaw wrote: yo WOS, what do you think of Xfire and Xatalos? Since we are talking about xxsk8terguy, we can move on with other people whose username starts with "x" I have a heuristic that seems to work pretty nicely a lot of the time in that people who try to drive early suspicion on me are scum. I believe Xatalos was one of those so I'll have to look into him. Xfire is pretty null to me as I can't remember him having done anything memorable at all. If he has my role and hasn't mentioned anything about it at all it is my belief he is scum since it is inherently a more useful role to scum than town (not necessarily by much) and people not knowing about it is a big advantage. | ||
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Aaaaaanyway, I shall read into Xfire/Xatalos atm since I have some time. | ||
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We are running out of time ladies and gents and two no-lynches may as well be gg for us. | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:18 gonzaw wrote: Well...you can start yourself no? You haven't done much either so you can't really complain at other people. I still dont' know your stance on anybody left in the game, other that your "role receiver" may be scum for reasons I don't know of Also I'm leaving soon, so if your "role" stuff has something groundbreaking that can change today's lynch and you need my vote spout it before I leave. Xfire please claim what role you have, or at the very least who made your role Considering snb will never show up that's the only thing left then, right? My role won't change today's lynch. I can't consolidate because I'm not included in the vote, derp. You're leaving and you're leaving you vote on Sk8r, so considering the votes are split basically evenly at this point we have to hope for half the thread to return or we get no flip today. | ||
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Geript. Vote for somebody. Sk8 is vote leader atm so do him. We need a fucking flip. | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also I need to know this now. What does the tardis do. Either sk8 or Kita. Sk8 this is really the only chance you have at saving your ass currently. Sk8's ass is safe right now if people don't fucking come back. | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:32 geript wrote: U ded bc .......? | ||
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Oh Geript. 2 more votes for sk8r and we're set. | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:36 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry for disappearing, I've been really busy. I'm here now until lynch. Gonzaw you're right that I have your role, but I didn't use any abilities last night because I didn't want to waste anything when I wasn't sure about people. I didn't get any new abilities, maybe because I didn't use anything last night T_T. I'm not liking sk8r too much anymore. He already answered what questions I wanted to ask, but didn't get a chance to. Basically, I still don't understand why he gave the TARDIS to the people he supposedly gave it to. Why solstice and why kita? Wan't there a specific way gonzaw asked you to confirm it? | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote: Uh, idk. Did he? I can confirm I have it though. I already breadcrumbed it earlier to him, which I think he picked up on. On June 27 2013 03:34 gonzaw wrote: Well, I might as well reveal what mine does. I won't reveal the "juicy bits", but effectively, ma niggah last night could do one of the following: 1)Protect himself of 1 KP 2)Busdrive 2 dudes 3)RB a dude I presume he used (1) since nobody claimed RBed or funny stuff Also, right now he has one of 2 new abilities, which if he's scum then we are in bad hands as well :/ I'll wait until he claims what ability he got (he can only know one of them, can't know both) so he doesn't lie or something. At least this is if the role didn't get nerfed so I have no idea. deconduo, if you nerfed a role, did you tell the role creator about the nerf? You know, considering it'd be kind of "unfair", benefiting the people who created roles that WERENT nerfed (thus know 100% what the role does) to people who created roles that did (thus can't know what the role does)? | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:45 Crossfire99 wrote: Yeah I already said I used none of those abilities/items last night, which I think is the reason I didn't gain any items to use today. He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote: That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum. Aren't you the one with the bus driver role? I was talking about you. | ||
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On June 27 2013 05:00 austinmcc wrote: If this is true then skater could not have passed the TARDIS to solstice during D1? Austin and Xfire. Why are you not voting Sk8? | ||
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On June 27 2013 04:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Aren't you the one with the bus driver role? I was talking about you. Don't ignore me Xfire. Respond to this. | ||
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On June 27 2013 05:06 gonzaw wrote: So you DID get an "ability" today, don't lie. Also, by the way, nobody visit Xfire tonight, he's the NRA member (if you visit him he dies, that's what the tazer does) (where you planning on revealing that soon? Or did deconduo nerf it?) Also he'll most likely have KP tonight. Xfire, you better use it on whoever we tell you to, okay? Why didn't you choose the Baseball bat? It made you one-shot poisoner You do realize that he could have been stalling to wait for scumbuddies to give him that info, right? (Unlikely i know, but I'm a conspiracy theoriest too) So if anyone visits him, HE dies, not the person who visits him? | ||
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On June 27 2013 05:10 gonzaw wrote: No, if anybody visits him, the visitor dies, but the action is still done on him. Thus if you vig him, your vig shot goes through, but you die. If you give him the TARDIS, you indeed give it to him, but you die If you RB him, I have no idea, I didn't think too much about it lol Well then that's why he hid it/lied about not getting that from the host....no? | ||
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On June 27 2013 05:30 Xatalos wrote: Just came back and read through the latest pages fast. The first thing that came to my mind is that please, please don't make random abilities anymore. Dandel Ion (I don't think anyone thought he was scum?) and Zephirdd (almost confirmed as town by Meapak) died because of random chance (not sure why exactly Zephirdd died though) basically....... Not something I want to see in a game of Mafia. I also got this PM: You have been asked to participate in a focus group today. Please select one of the following before the end of the day phase: Vigilante Medic Veteran Roleblocker Bus Passenger Thank you for your participation! Most of my townreads are now dead, but Gonzaw/BC, which should I pick? Looks like austinmcc and Kurumi are using some kind of power-sharing to gain towncred? I guess that's fine regardless of their alignment, and certainly more townish than sharing them with scum, but neither of them doing (almost) anything outside of that makes me doubt. It could be just an easy way to gain towncred and survive without scumhunting. Could we also get a votecount please? I'm in the dark about who has how many votes and how much time we have. And how many do we need for lynch? If austinmcc's power-sharing thing makes him worth keeping alive, then so be it, although I think he'd be our best bet for scum lynch. I can't think of any better candidate though and it's getting somewhat desperate with 2 dead suddenly... Although after considering the chance of Kurumi/austinmcc using their ability to easily gain towncred, I came to the conclusion that the same could be said about sk8r/Crossfire99. In fact they've done less than what Kurumi/austinmcc are apparently doing, meaning something clearly beneficial for town. Could someone credible make a quick summary of what all of these 4 have achieved / are supposedly achieving with their powers in the near future? Gonzaw's conspiracy theory with me is pretty funny. It makes me feel he's even more townish though, since that paranoid attitude is just so townish. I should read it again though to find possible flaws. But now I'm going to post this and see what all happened in between starting this and finishing it... You were given directions as to how to respond to the poll I believe. It's back a couple pages. | ||
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On June 27 2013 05:46 Xatalos wrote: Wait a minute.... Isn't this 7 votes now? so sk8r is dead? Phew, pretty close. If I just arrived 30min later or someone else was AFK... Yeah, no. I like how you try to take credit though. 10 people means 6 was needed. No point waiting I guess because I am eenveenceeble, so Xatalos is scum. Basically listen to Acro's big case on him but I'll add more beginning later tonight if/when I get the chance. If Sk8 flips red I'll be even more sure of it but it's not necessarily exclusionary (pre-flip associations are bad) | ||
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Originally I was leaning towards beliving his claim but now, yeah..... | ||
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We're looking at 5-3 (if kita is lying) 4-3-1 (which means we lose?) or 5-2-1 right now. .....unless. | ||
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On June 27 2013 06:13 Kurumi wrote: Tardis is booby trapped not touching that shit Wat. Explain? | ||
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On June 27 2013 06:16 austinmcc wrote: ugh, gg skater and snb ... i guess? PM confirms that, barring no other actor, kita bussed himself with DI. PMs ALSO confirm that TL mafia players are creepy, because I had considered a choose-your-own-adventure power (Gonzaw seems to have made) AND a latvian joke power (also done) Crossfire, what do you know about booby trapping the TARDIS or draining it of energy? Alright so scum are kita and Xatalos, probably a third as well, so 5-3 more likely. I have to go but I'm pretty sure things are going to get interesting very soon. (I hope). Kita may have made a grievous error. | ||
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On June 27 2013 08:10 gonzaw wrote: I dont want to play anymore. I already killed 3 townies indirectly i dont want that to grow larger. Must be my worst town game ever, godhammit Relax, its PTP, its always a clusterfuck. Things will get better soon I think. | ||
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Good to see you. | ||
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On June 27 2013 08:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Can't post while dead. Do you know that feel? Probably not, you can. I was really looking forward to thread reaction on this one but nobody's around. Sigh. | ||
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On June 27 2013 08:41 Dandel Ion wrote: My real role is Captain Jack Harkness. Once in the game I'll be resurrected 6 hours after dying. And I can make up a disguise role to surprise bitches. Didn't know it'd flip another name, it didn't say that. Yeah they changed a couple things about it that I don't think I made completely clear. I also think this had the potential to be super hella OP in scum hands the way I made it but it all worked out 'cause now we caught kita and we get you back. I think the way I originally wrote it you could choose which alignment you'd rather show up as when you 'die?' I certainly didn't make the fake role up so that's why I was initially confused. | ||
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On June 27 2013 08:46 Dandel Ion wrote: They changed it to me being able to change my role instead. Which basically isn't all that OP as scum cuz then town can just shoot me right after lynching or vice versa. It's k. Haha originally it was more OP than that. Originally you had an extra daylife AND nightlife so the only way you could die was being killed during the twice or at night twice. | ||
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On June 27 2013 08:48 Dandel Ion wrote: lol +alignment changer guess why that was nerfed..... Yuplol | ||
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On June 27 2013 08:53 Dandel Ion wrote: Ok so I just stayed awake to slap my (alive) dick onto people's faces. Now that's done, I'll go to sleep happily. STILL ALIVE. LALALALA STILL ALIVE. /approve Role couldn't have gone to a better person. SOOOOO no 3rd party means we now at 6-3. Assuming no more random shot shennanies n' shit I think we're still in ok shape considering we know for sure of at least one scummer. | ||
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On June 27 2013 09:14 gonzaw wrote: Why? Why does a PTP game have to be like this? I thought a game like this was supposed to be fun ;_; Y U gotta complain so much I'm havin' fun | ||
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If he really wanted to work with us as 3P then he could have ensured his own survival by, ya know, NOT KILLING ONE OF US. Burn it. Burn it with cleansing fire. He is 100% mafia. | ||
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Like, shitflinging without even a good reason to do so? Desperation mafia play because you know you're dead tomorrow. | ||
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There is zero reason why you'd kill someone like that if your wincon wasn't either mafia or to be sole survivorn which means we kill you either way. Hell I'd be happy killing you and making you lose even if it fucks town over for pulling that stunt on my very best friend DI. Sadly I am but a lowly head and can only try and convince my townfolk to do the right thing. Kita ---> Xatalos people. | ||
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On June 27 2013 22:30 kitaman27 wrote: It does put a smile on my face how you can be completely wrong so often, but keep on trucking. Reminds me of an early Jackal By the way, geript and Dandel have a resurrection role. Do you guys really think town got two of them? Sk8r, austin, and kurumi all have gift roles. Do you guys really think town got three of them? zzz Oooo lookit dat, we bringin out da big guns now. Haha if anyone falls for this shit we deserve to lose honestly. | ||
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What. Are you insinuating that dandel is scum right now? Well NOW you've convinced me. Lets lynch dandel guys! PS this flippant tone you're taking with me? Doesn't sound how a town-friendly kita acts. | ||
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On June 28 2013 03:02 Dandel Ion wrote: What? It's definetly possible that he's technically a survivor, but he chose to play against town and for scum. So we need to treat him as scum. This. Oh for the record, I had given the conspiracy theory that DI and Kita are scum together some thought. It certainly makes sense that they'd do it simply because DI was effectively a vet and it gives towncred to whomever wants it, but at this point, if DI is somehow scum and got my role then we'd probably have lost anyway because even had we lynched him he would have come back to life. Hell actually that makes no sense anyway, why the hell would scum sacrifice an extra life like that for no apparent reason at all? There is no way kita and DI are scum together. We lynch kita and get it over with. | ||
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What in the actual fuck is going on? Why do mafia have such ridiculous control over this game? If anyone has a gun shoot Kita so we can move on. We're at 4-3 and LYLO right now. | ||
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On June 28 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote: No we lynch geript. No one should dayvig until we figure out who has the TARDIS. Since kurumi died and probably didn't use it, that means one of us has it. Claim it if you have it. If you don't claim, I'll take that as a scum claim. Are you scum? Shoot Kita, we figure out what to do from there. | ||
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Who wrote his role again? Do we know what it is? Just shoot kita and let's move on. ACTUALLY...that gun of slots. What is the timing on it? If we use it do we have a high chance of hitting scum? | ||
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We also have no idea about the full extent of Geript's/kita's abilities do we? I have no idea how we're supposed to get ourselves out of this to be honest. Maybe we just use the vote and one of gonzaw/geript dies and then we can shoot geript after? | ||
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Does it have a limited number of uses? Was Kurumi somehow lied to when he had it? | ||
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On June 28 2013 07:01 Dandel Ion wrote: I think the 3 people just shouldn't vote and ignore it. I was thinking that too. It COULD be a chance for us to get ahead but I doubt Geript would have used his ability if there was a chance we could turn it around on him. Makes sense not to vote. Don't vote, guise. Also that means unless Geript ALSO has a protection ability he couldn't have used the TARDIS to protect kita as well. Kita might be the shot to take. | ||
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On June 28 2013 07:05 Crossfire99 wrote: We now know geript does not have the TARDIS or if he does he cannot use it this day or night, so that's something. Could be 3rd scumbuddy though or kita himself. | ||
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The longer we take and the more we talk about it, the easier it is for them to prepare. I don't see how a silent shot matters if they prechoose the bus targets. Yall are lucky I'm still just a head. | ||
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I think YOLOing is best right now since I feel like the only reason scum outed themselves is because they think (or know) they've already won. | ||
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<3 In other news, I remember being really damn sure Xatalos is scum #4. I don't want to derail the efforts regarding stuff that's actually going on, but if I were to come up with a convincing case (with the possibility of course that it is wrong one way or the other), what would it mean for the rest of the day and town's efforts? I really don't want to mess with whatever people are trying to do here and I have to be honest, I haven't been following all the crazy role shit 100%. | ||
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On June 28 2013 10:09 gonzaw wrote: You are asking us if making a case on scum will be bad for town? ....well, OF COURSE ITS FUCKING BAD FOR TOWN WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? JEESUSS Like, you are worse than Sk8, YOU ARE WORSE THAN SKATER8 DO YOU REALIZE THAT? You want to make a case.....on someone you think is scum. DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING INSANELY STUPID THAT SOUNDS? Like...what's going on in your head man? Like really I should ask for a 10-game ban for you once this game ends for christ's sake. Godhammit dude. ARRGGGHH I can't believe what some people do in these games, it just fucking baffles me. You gotta clam down, breh. Don't overexcited, man. | ||
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On June 28 2013 11:01 geript wrote: So... how funny is it that the mods forgot about my mortal combating being once per game? I mean honestly... pretty hilarious. Go easy on them....modding is hard work. AMIRITE? | ||
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On June 28 2013 11:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: not when there's like 15 custom roles you have to keep looking at because you have no idea what the hell is going on in the thread I'm extremely glad I died in Roulette and Smurf before this game started :D Herp derp I'm gonna sign up for 5 different games!! Also I fucking love that pic. | ||
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On June 29 2013 01:11 gonzaw wrote: At the very least, it shows us we should either think kita is 3P and look for scum somewhere else, or the scumteam is the one I showed above (geript+kita+xfire+MZ) and it's already "figured out". If kita is 3P, then there is most likely 2 scum in austin/Xata/Xfire, which means Xfire is very likely scum (would austin AND Xata really be scum together? Xata tunneled austin since N1, and Xata was very quick to vote austin back in D1, etc). So does this means Xfire is scum no matter what? Or what else? Xfire has given me some slight town feelings ultimately, and he was clear with his use of my role in terms of picking stuff. Granted, apparently he didn't RB Xata last night (maybe?) and I still don't know wtf he did on N1 (he claimed he couldn't get an ability or some shit I have no idea) Christ I don't know Meh You were right in that the final scum would have to be the 'hidden' one in that he's not obvious scum and I don't think Xfire has been obviously scummy at all this game. Again I got horrible gut feelings about Xatalos throughout the game (and of course Acro's case on him) but your proposed scumteam makes the most sense given what I have come to understand about how the hosts/roles have been working. I basically haven't done this at all yet because role and power speculation (and me being dead-ish) have sort of taken the oomph out of my play for what little time I've been available, but I'm going to filter dive a shot ton of people. I will be doing so under the assumption that both kita and geript are scum because after the way kita has played, I don't give a shit if he's actually 3P survivor, he deserves to lose anyway for telling us he'd play with us and then fuck us over. I want both of them dead and they're going to lead me to scum #4. | ||
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On June 29 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote: yeah i'm not sure gonzaw. I know i'm not scum so it can't be 2. Also, gonzaw imagine i'm scum and sk8r is town. The only people who know anything at all about the TARDIS are my scumbuddies and sk8r. I know sk8r can pass it. Why don't I at night just tell sk8r to use his role to me and give me a gift or something. The TARDIS stays hidden from town and scum have it without being obvious about it. Actually, think about this. IF I WAS SCUM AND KITA WAS SCUM, I WOULD HAVE TOLD KITA TO BUS MEAPAK TO SAVE HIM FROM BC'S SHOT. SO KITA AND I CAN'T BOTH BE SCUM. SAY HE'S NOT SCUM. SAY I'M SCUM, I SEE SOMEONE ASKING FOR THE TARDIS SO I TELL SK8R TO GIVE IT TO ME INSTEAD BECAUSE I JUST DEFENDED HIM SO HE TRUSTS ME AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO NONSCUM. I'M THEN ABLE TO SAVE MEAPAK. BASICALLY I THINK I JUST PROVED I'M NOT SCUM LOL. Because of all of this i think kita is actually a survivor now because i don't see scum being told about the TARDIS, which means austin must be scum with geript and xata. Ugh i need to look over austin's filter and think about thsi. In order to bus MZ wouldnt you have had to know the shot was coming? | ||
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On June 29 2013 01:23 kitaman27 wrote: So let me get this straight: geript, xfire, and I are scum buddies. I decide to claim in the thread about the TARDIS, knowing that xfire created it, because outing two scum members is totally worth the one-shot medic protect. xfire decided to claim in the thread that he created the TARDIS role to implicate himself, because why not?! Kurumi is lying about the TARDIS getting drained because he likes to troll town and my role has nothing to do with the TARDIS. Geript decides to use his day vig power on myself, knowing that I have the bus drive ability and can bus the results of the vote to any player, but rather than challenging someone like Sk8r and busing a shot from Sk8r to BC anonymously, he wants to shoot his scum buddy and implicate the two of us even more. That's the most likely scenario? LOL Sorry Kita, it's too convenient that you're somehow 3P and 'drained' the TARDIS on the one night a more-or-less confirmed town has it and now it's magically usable again. | ||
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On June 29 2013 01:34 gonzaw wrote: ?? You could just say in the QT "Okay, kita, you tell in thread to give the TARDIS to you, sk8 will surely give it to you if you sugar-coat it enough. I won't say anything because I'll gain attention to myself, and I want to be the 'hidden' scum that survives until LYLO" In fact that actually makes more sense than you personally telling sk8 to give you the tardis. Please tell me how what ACTUALLY happened (most-likely-scum kita getting the TARDIS) is any different than that? If you have to tell sk8 IN THREAD to give it to you the tardis doesn't "stay hidden", are you kidding me? Also "without being obvious about it" is surely enough for mafia. kita was "so obvious" he avoided the D2 lynch. Why would you asking sk8 in thread to give it to you, and then you saying stuff like "Hey, now I'm giving the TARDIS to kita/geript okay? Oh yeah sorry gonzaw/BC I don't trust you guys with it!" on D2 NOT "being obvious about it" either? Don't you fucking lie: Also, please read this page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=64 BC claims MZ is mafia and shoots him right there Do you see kita? No? Well that's because he is not active How can inactive kita save MZ from the shot if he's not there to activate it? This would also assume kita would have known BC had ANOTHER SHOT he could use on MZ, then figure out he needs to bus MZ with someone else, and do so,in the 9 minutes it took BC to shoot MZ! I will repeat this, because you are fucking contradicting yourself: You are 3P survivor, why do you give a shit what we think of Xfire if you win either way? Why would you get nervous just because some townie is speculating about some random players you SHOULDNT care about? You havent' posted ANY interesting thing at all until right now, yet a random townie accuses some other random townie/scum and suddenly you come out of nowhere to defend him? Huh kita? Mind explaining that to me? Give this man the $10,000. | ||
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On June 29 2013 01:41 Crossfire99 wrote: well gonzaw, i'm not lying. the hosts condradicted themselves. I got those answers from sent. Today i got answers from dec. and they're different. He told me that i don't know when teh tardis activates. He told me the TARDIS supersedes all day actions which means to mean that whoever has the TARDIS can do whatever they want. I specifically asked about silent dayvigs and what not. and to further muddle the waters, sent told me i get my day ability now and dec told me i get it tonight. How does this change the fact that someone would have had to protect OR bus MZ in 9 minutes, unless the TARDIS can undo the fucking shot after MZ flipped. | ||
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Sk8 and SnB fucked us over so hard. If it was just 'used twice--->gets drained' then why wouldn't it have been in Sk8's role PM? I can't see hosts nerfing something and not telling the guy who HAS the fucking role. | ||
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On June 29 2013 01:55 Crossfire99 wrote: I posted 2 minutes before bc said that meapak was mafia. I can also tell you that there were 30 minutes to the flip. There is more then enough time for something to be done if i had the tardis. But you're right kita had it. There is no reason for kita to draw attention to the tardis if we were scum together because i could have gotten sk8r to give it to me quietly. Then meapak doesn't die to bc. Therefore kita and i aren't the same alignment. If i was scum, why would i let a non scum player ask for the tardis when I could have gotten it myself. How could you have gotten sk8 to give it to you quietly exactly? I also don't see how that proves you and kita aren't the same alignment, especially if you wanted to avoid it going to someone random because scum got it twice. | ||
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On June 29 2013 02:15 gonzaw wrote: Hey Xfire: Please explain Why isn't it possible? IF Xfire told them not to tell him that it's possible. If the hosts wanted to nerf the role without altering the role PM it's possible. From what I gather, it's not that sk8 is the "master of the tardis", he's just a guy that has the TARDIS at the beginning of the game, thus he would get the same info as any other player that gets the TARDIS. If Xfire/hosts don't want those players to know that info about the TARDIS, then they wouldn't want sk8 to know either. Ok I didn't know that kind of thing was possible. I forgot about the other roles that were created by the dead people...this mason/dayvig business. Masoning could also explain how kita knew about the TARDIS but if this is true then it changes everything we've talked about. I think at this point we need a list of the roles and who created them....and for those we don't know we at least need to write down what was claimed about them. | ||
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On June 29 2013 02:24 gonzaw wrote: Anyways, this is good, because we now know with 80% certainty one of these is true: These are the only possible configuration of players+alignments: (Read Xfire's post here to figure out why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=113#2247 ) Option 1: kita is 3rd party Xfire is town Austin is scum Xatalos is scum Option 2: kita is scum Xfire is scum Austin is town Xatalos is town So choose people! I'll take bets! So, Austin+Xata you should like make a case on kita and Xfire being scumbuddies and shit (although I kind of already did it for you) Xfire, make a case for Austin+Xata being scumbuddies. Please explain Xata's tunnel on austin, and all the shit that needs to be explained. Disclaimer: I'm assuming there are either 3 scum and 1 3P, or 4 scum. If it's not actually like that the above options may differ....and if it's not actually like that fuck the system dear god Your 1st option has 4 scum and 3p. | ||
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On June 29 2013 02:39 gonzaw wrote: If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit He's already BEEN wrecking town shit. What you guys don't seem to understand is that he contradicted himself with his claim about 3P survivor. He claimed to want to play with town to win, and he could have done so, but instead he kills one of us, then claiming he was worried that if we were in a good position we'd have room to lynch him so he was trying to force LYLO. IF HE WAS PLAYING WITH/FOR US WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE LYNCH HIM FOR NO REASON? Just to fuck him over and win solely as town? Makes no sense. Kita is scum, and that's all there is to it. There is enough hidden role bullshit flying around that his knowledge of the TARDIS can be explained through other means, ie masoning. | ||
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Shhh. All in good time. This hidden power is potentially a game-changer but it requires a very specific set of conditions. Right now it wouldn't do anything. | ||
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On June 29 2013 02:52 kitaman27 wrote: Haha best reasoning ever. If we just reach the endgame post, we can figure everything out! If you wanted to win, you shouldn't have been/chosen scum. Game's not over if we kill you, friend. | ||
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Trust. You guys are so lucky I don't have a gun I woulda rambo'd that shit ages ago. I have a vain hope that the TARDIS is out of power or some shit and right now it's scum-bluff city. | ||
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On June 29 2013 03:14 gonzaw wrote: I'm not giving you bus driver if you are scum Want to prove to me you are town? Make a good case against Xata then, and maybe austin it you think he's scum as well Honestly..this kind of thinking is a little bit stupid. It's easy enough to fabricate a case either way when you're told what the outcome is supposed to be. | ||
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On June 29 2013 03:24 Crossfire99 wrote: Yeah, but he's never done it. Actually he said he was going to do it last night, but I roleblocked him, which he lied about. Additionally it would make sense as him for scum to say he was going to do it to geript who is his scum buddy because then he will be "forced" to vote for kita because I think xata is lying about his role and can't do what he says he can. This is a very good point. I remember looking at DI's fake role claim and thinking it wasn't in line with the craziness and multiple abilities of the other roles...turns out I was right (also because I remembered he had my role and could probably fakeclaim a role if hosts allowed him to). Xata's role seems to be....missing something one way or the other. Xata has been my primary scumread for some time now and I'd believe it more than you being scum, Xfire. The only thing that doesn't work is kita being 3P which I just DO NOT believe---and then I can't figure out how he would have figured out abot the TARDIS. | ||
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[QUOTE]On June 29 2013 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote: Yeah or it's simply geript-Xata-MZ-kita scum team[/QUOTE] No because scum kita has no way to know about how TARDIS works if town sk8 and town Xfire never told him. Although....since Xatalos made kita's role, kita could have a role like this: [quote]You can check the role of any player at the day phase[/quote] Maybe he used that check on sk8 and figured out the Tardis shit Maybe he did it on sk8 because sk8 was talking so much about how he could confirm everybody as town, thus scum may have wanted to know wtf that was about. As soon as kita got confirmation about the tardis on N1, scum talked a lot in scum QT about what to do, they decided to have kita claim the "give me the tardis!" thing (which was NOT early N1, but kind of late) and play along Certainly possible. I mean, kita hasn't done shit with his role yet, therefore it's unlikely it's aggressive, it may have been investigative So maybe this IS what actually happened. .....but well my "Xata PMed kita" thing makes sense as well Mostly because kita "claimed" geript could protect him at night and shit, if geript's role actually does that then it doesn't make much sense for scum kita to say that (unless scum made that part up so we think geript can protect kita)[/QUOTE] Which is why we need to stop being pussies and actually do something. Austin had it right, most of what we're talking about isn't getting us anywhere. | ||
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On June 29 2013 03:54 gonzaw wrote: No because scum kita has no way to know about how TARDIS works if town sk8 and town Xfire never told him. Although....since Xatalos made kita's role, kita could have a role like this: Maybe he used that check on sk8 and figured out the Tardis shit Maybe he did it on sk8 because sk8 was talking so much about how he could confirm everybody as town, thus scum may have wanted to know wtf that was about. As soon as kita got confirmation about the tardis on N1, scum talked a lot in scum QT about what to do, they decided to have kita claim the "give me the tardis!" thing (which was NOT early N1, but kind of late) and play along Certainly possible. I mean, kita hasn't done shit with his role yet, therefore it's unlikely it's aggressive, it may have been investigative So maybe this IS what actually happened. .....but well my "Xata PMed kita" thing makes sense as well Mostly because kita "claimed" geript could protect him at night and shit, if geript's role actually does that then it doesn't make much sense for scum kita to say that (unless scum made that part up so we think geript can protect kita) Which is why we need to stop being pussies and actually do something. Austin had it right, most of what we're talking about isn't getting us anywhere.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On June 29 2013 04:05 gonzaw wrote: Actually we may figure out if kita is scum or 3P by looking at his behaviour pre-claim and post-claim. ...volunteers? Here are the conclusions though: 1) If kita is scum, he has some sort of "rolecheck" ability he used on Sk8 on D1/N1 2) If kita is 3P, then he most likely was acting as a survivor until his claim, when he was contacted by scum mason Xata, and then started acting like scum Mabes I'll give this a shot. I don't really like your second option as it's really making a LOT of assumptions (and clearly isn't making kita sweat). Like... that conspiracy theory seems pretty farfetched. This coming from a guy who writes conspiracy theories every game. (and is always wrong) | ||
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On June 29 2013 04:25 kitaman27 wrote: I'd like to put this out there: What if BC shot Meapak and provided a red check on geript, just to gain town cred and never get suspected? He loves to pull out the wild plans as scum so it is certainly something to consider. Thanks, kita. Appreciate the contribution. I wish Ace were here right now, he'd have an amazing gif for this situation. | ||
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On June 29 2013 04:34 austinmcc wrote: BEST POST NA Biggest fucking stump in the forest, yo. | ||
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On June 29 2013 04:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Only reason I say this, is im pretty sure the gun of slots raped zeph day 1 Oh god another randomization thing? That shit's dumb. (Says the guy who wrote a resurrection role---I consider it a vet though) | ||
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On June 29 2013 05:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Seems like the easiest way to do this is for me to shoot kita. His powers are unknown, and xata's are more or less under control. Also guess what? i can deal with xata at night to prevent his role shite without checking him. Doo eeet BC I can't really talk more about reasoning for what I've been saying today. Like I said I need a very specific set of conditions to use my hidden power to effectiveness. | ||
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On June 29 2013 05:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I know lol. One potentially is slow and steady and solves the game the other is balls wall. Hmm. Are you guys SURE the game will be solved and we can't get fucked somehow? I have a mini trump card in my hidden power but again, special set of conditions I don't know will be met. Now I'm not sure if it's worth the risk just 'cause I'm impatient. | ||
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Or other people other than BC being town? Is it possible we screwed simply because we're wrong right now? | ||
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Just. Trust. | ||
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On June 29 2013 05:52 austinmcc wrote: #uprootandafterthem ? Dese tree jokes man. Can't keep up, phoneposting until later probably. Also ima be pissed if this is one of those fake shots. So sick of that. | ||
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If this shit ends here I want anudda wun. ANUDDA WUN | ||
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Damn itttttt | ||
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I can vote once but then I die for real as soon as I do. The vote counts. Gg scum if you do win right now. | ||
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MAKE IT DIE I'd rather not kill myself to make that happen but if you assholes force me into it I will KILL DAT KITA MAN | ||
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I forget. Either way I feel like we done. | ||
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lolololololooll (Not that I have any control over voting, really) | ||
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On June 30 2013 03:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also scum team more or less claimed in thread. Which is what makes me believe we've lost. | ||
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And if he's scum he's not going to vote scum. I think the issue is I get one vote to prevent a game loss but then after that my vote is gone so we lose. | ||
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I'll vote around deadline if it becomes necessary; I'd rather not kill myself just yet. | ||
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Let me knwo if I have to vote with some time in case I cannt pst bright away | ||
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On June 30 2013 05:39 gonzaw wrote: Oh, because austin has his vote on geript? If he's scum wouldn't he be here right before deadline to change votes and shit? He couls judt ninja it | ||
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Driving home now will be back after deadline | ||
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Not sure if it went through or not, or if it was needed or not but I saw kita change his vote last second so gg either way. No one told me what to do. | ||
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Not sure if it went through or not, or if it was needed or not but I saw kita change his vote last second so gg either way. No one told me what to do. | ||
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we\'ll see what mods say. | ||
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Sorry I couldn't be around for shenanigans guys | ||
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see yall soon! | ||
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All that complaining man. | ||
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On July 04 2013 03:48 austinmcc wrote: That's somewhat the nature of PTP. I hope for PTP games to be more "fun" than "balanced," the first bit of this game was so tame for PTP, until everyone started resurrecting and whatnot. Even if we'd had a fourth mafia member, there were so many roles with a wide variance: my role, Inventorizer, crossfire, strongandbig, solstice, plus the random movement of the TARDIS...I don't think you actually CAN balance that out. This. I said it in the obs QT I think but crazy shit is what PTPs are all about, no? | ||
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Alignments are set before the game and whoever is elected either loses their alignment to become host or something else happens...? | ||
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