|
On June 24 2013 01:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Dropping my vote on BC for today because he will not be getting lynched today and I don't want to vote split.
##Unvote
##Vote Zephirdd
Wait... what?! So tell me why Zephir is scum. According to you, not according to those other guys voting for him.
Also, I'm catching up on the thread now. I hope I can make an informed decision in the next hour or so, because I have to go out and don't know whether I'll be back for the deadline.
|
s0Lstice...
1) Why haven't you basically mentioned me at all (except dodging the question once when asked directly) after initially throwing dirt on me?
2) Why haven't you responded to my reply to your soft accusation?
3) Why have you pretty much ignored/dodged Gonzaw´s case on you (except downplaying it once in a vague manner) and then conveniently forgotten it?
4) Why did you suddenly bandwagon Zephirdd, an "easy" lurker lynch, despite not even mentioning him before this?
All this makes me feel like you don't even care who gets lynched. Just throw some dirt around, then forget it, then avoid attention, and then jump on an easy bandwagon when the opportunity arises. Frankly, your filter reeks red.
|
Dandel Ion, you really think we should lynch Zephirdd over s0Lstice...?
|
Because I just don't see it.
|
I read your defense Xatalos, and I frankly don't care that you care so much about how I'm not sharing every waking thought I have in thread. If it makes that much of a difference for you, I'm gonna wait and see on you. You are here and posting, so if you are scum I don't think it will be difficult. I prioritize the time I have to play the game with, and Zeph is the lynch I want to go with as I was reading through filters. I can deal with other stuff later.
Gonzaw's case was terrible. Don't care about that either atm. I feel dumber having read it.
You seem content to sail off into confirmation bias land though, so enjoy your journey!
The rest of you bubba's, get your vote on. Let's kill Zeph.
|
Okay, I filtered zephirdd and don't get a strong scumread. He hasn't done very much, but his longer post seems quite okay to me and I don't see the problems with his post about DI either. The post Gonzaw objects to: I fail to see how you get a read on zephirdd from him stating his conclusion that BC is probably town. I did so too, and so did a number of other people, including Gonzaw himself. I don't see that being much of a case.
However, austin is making my scumdar ping like a maniac with his behaviour towards zephir.
At the start of the game, he seemed concerned about exactly one thing: figuring out zephir.
+ Show Spoiler [austin's preoccupation with zephir] +On June 22 2013 07:32 austinmcc wrote:Or maybe I DO have that power and you're immune to it. My read on Zephirdd is that he managed to win PTP3 for his team by being a jerky mafia face. I don't like that, but tbh I don't remember him doing anything super duper mafia-y. Gonna be trying to get info out of him early, because he was able to blend in late game once everyone was lazified and didn't care.[/QUOTE Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 22:58 austinmcc wrote:
Actually, beyond just that...Zephir, was there any particular setup/role figuring discussion that you guys were worried about in pick their pokemon? Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 22:33 austinmcc wrote:
Zephirdd, in Poke-pick-their-power-palooza, were you worried/flustered by the thought of claimfests where everyone tried to figure out who made what role/what role had what powers? Or did it not matter to you?
Acro/others, I'm not sure that claiming names really does anything to help sort out later situations where we need to claim roles. If everyone claims, then yes, we know what roles might be open to being fakeclaimed. But if the creator is dead, SOMEONE has the rolename they made a role for, and that person can make up whatever they want and knowing the maker doesn't help anyone. If we don't claim, mafia can't really fakeclaim a power but a real role name, because the role creator MIGHT still be alive.
I keep poking around that, but I don't think we get enough out of just claiming what roles we made that it's worth filling in some of the information that the mafia doesn't have. Also, Other Reasons.
That is 100% of his early posts with actual content (meaning, not trolling). While at the time I didn't really mind it too much, because trying to really figure out 1 person who you are afraid of, if scum, is a fairly okay way to start D1, lets see how this desire to figure him out progresses.
Then gonzaw makes the comment. I don't think it should even be called a case, because gonzaw doesn't even push zephir, his main focus is s0lstice (who I will look into next), and austinmcc practically leaps at it:
[QUOTE]On June 23 2013 23:55 austinmcc wrote:
In stuff people may care about - gonzaw, everyone <3s you and so I focused on your reads. I honestly like the zephirdd read.
Okay...
But it feels more like he likes it because it is an easy setup for him to get on a rolling wagon where he won't be suspicious than anything else. Lets look at the case:
[quote]
In pokePTP, he won the game for scum by just surviving, didn't catch a lot of attention. I didn't like losing that game, and had planned on trying to keep some focus on him in this game to make sure it didn't happen. My early questions weren't great, but it was both (1) a way to get a little information out of him and (2) an important viewpoint to get when considering claims and whatnot. For all the arguing in this thread about who liked the idea of roleclaiming or not, whether it was good for scum or not, we have people who were scum in PTP games here, can ask them directly whether roleclaiming was something scum was worried about. Who cares whether we think it might be good or bad, we can directly ask someone who was scum whether roleclaiming made his team worried or not. His answers were slightly shifty, in that I was hoping for something more firm but got nothing firm at all[quote]If I could offer some advice, don't trust any claim - no matter how townie it sounds like.[/quote][quote]I really don't remember much actually, it was a long time ago. I was afk a lot on that game too(I forgot to send many stuff to hosts).. but you can get an idea of that on the scum qt. I do think we were worried about roles a lot actually, I was worried about Charmander(which was my creation) particularly, but he ended up killing himself with Drazerk bus-driving him iirc.[/quote]I missed my window to really poke at this, but don't like how, for the most part, he passes the buck instead of making the "I was scum in a PTP game, was this situation something scum wanted to happen" --> "I am in another PTP game, this situation is something scum would/wouldn't want to happen here" jump.
[/quote]
What a load of crock. This is not indicative of alignment at all.
[quote]
Beyond that, he's focused on DI, but...seems like most of the people referencing DI mention the alliance post. Zephir doesn't. Using the term "alliance" doesn't make DI town or scum, but it's a piece of his filter that has stood out to people as they read DI. Minor concern that zephir, who appears more focused on DI than anyone else, doesn't mention it.
Instead, what he does mention is...bland[QUOTE]On June 23 2013 17:46 Zephirdd wrote:
Dandel's posting has been so... fucking stupid. Goes from the 75/25% mafia/town ratio(which is stupid) to calling BC a claimed SK to calling him a troll to saying his previous post is not what it actually is(semantics) etc... It's really stupid.
But then, post "zephirdd not putting effort into his reads"(which he is right; I'm not) he makes some half-decent points about geript.
Geript's points are not anti-town though. He is asking legit questions, pushing possible contradictions.
DI feels like he is trying to discredit/shut down possible questions that could corner someone.
My mind keeps flipfloping on Dandelion, and I keep going back(in my own restricted mind) to austin who has been gone for a while.
Dandelion, please do post your thoughts on austinmcc and maybe post his reasoning towards asking the questions he did towards me. Anyone else is free to do the same, but I'm extra interested in DI.[/QUOTE]DI's posting is stupid/really stupid/fucking stupid. He's trying to shut down questions. But at the same time Zephir says DI is making decent points about himself/geript. For all the focus that zephir's posts put on DI, there's never really a ... summation of thoughts. He notes that his read on DI wavers, but his vote doesn't, and his focus doesn't, and there's just no followup on his wavering.
##vote: Zephirdd[/QUOTE]
I agree that zephir's case on DI is not very strong, but it doesn't feel forced. This, however, feels forced. Austin gives no impression of trying to figure Zephir out, just paint him as scum.
And that is all that austin has done. This from a guy who generally has pretty insightful reads. I am not impressed at all... and the zephir wagon smells even fishier because of it.
|
On June 24 2013 01:41 Xatalos wrote:
Dandel Ion, you really think we should lynch Zephirdd over s0Lstice...?
over s0l? yes.
But there are still like 5 people I'd rather lynch over zeph, s0l is not one of them tho.
At this point, I just don't want no no-lynch.
5 people are not even voting, about as many throw away their votes on randoms.
what's a brother to do.
|
Also,it's well into sunday already. Where's xfire?
|
Actually counted, it's only 4.
|
On June 24 2013 01:32 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 01:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Dropping my vote on BC for today because he will not be getting lynched today and I don't want to vote split.
##Unvote
##Vote Zephirdd Wait... what?! So tell me why Zephir is scum. According to you, not according to those other guys voting for him. Also, I'm catching up on the thread now. I hope I can make an informed decision in the next hour or so, because I have to go out and don't know whether I'll be back for the deadline.
The day is almost over and the only two trains that are possible are Dandel and Zephird. Why are you so surprised that I would vote him?
|
On June 24 2013 01:56 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 01:41 Xatalos wrote:
Dandel Ion, you really think we should lynch Zephirdd over s0Lstice...? over s0l? yes. But there are still like 5 people I'd rather lynch over zeph, s0l is not one of them tho. At this point, I just don't want no no-lynch. 5 people are not even voting, about as many throw away their votes on randoms. what's a brother to do.
Vote for SnB. Lurking SnB is scum SnB.
|
snb is probably a decently good lynch.
|
On June 24 2013 01:59 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 01:32 Acrofales wrote:On June 24 2013 01:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Dropping my vote on BC for today because he will not be getting lynched today and I don't want to vote split.
##Unvote
##Vote Zephirdd Wait... what?! So tell me why Zephir is scum. According to you, not according to those other guys voting for him. Also, I'm catching up on the thread now. I hope I can make an informed decision in the next hour or so, because I have to go out and don't know whether I'll be back for the deadline. The day is almost over and the only two trains that are possible are Dandel and Zephird. Why are you so surprised that I would vote him?
1. With almost over you mean we have another 4 hours or so?
2. Because you haven't even MENTIONED Zephir before.
Actually, SnB can wait for another day. Sk8er is trying to kill Zephir without even bothering to figure out whether he's scum or town, hence sk8er is scum.
##vote sk8er
|
that however is not a decently good lynch
|
On June 24 2013 02:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
that however is not a decently good lynch
Explain to me why sk8er is town.
|
On June 24 2013 02:02 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 02:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
that however is not a decently good lynch Explain to me why sk8er is town.
explain why he's scum and I'm not.
you should be doing the whole omgwtfbbq shabazzle to my vote on zephiredd too since it was pretty much the same thing.
|
After that big post I'd think Austin would be a good pivot for you Acro. What are you doing?
|
Solstice is scum.
I'm sure of it.
##Vote: s0Lstice
I probably won't be around until later but guys trust me on this.
WAGON OF JUSTICEEEEEEE
|
I'm feeling austin, actually.
##austin
|
On June 24 2013 02:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Solstice is scum.
I'm sure of it.
##Vote: s0Lstice
I probably won't be around until later but guys trust me on this.
WAGON OF JUSTICEEEEEEE
that post took you 16 hours?
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
