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The Alliance Role PM thing that Austin just mentioned is pretty important...if Zeph was so concerned about flipflopping his read on Dandel, he certainly would have considered this. Actually most of what Austin just said is pretty important...I hate being ninja'd but what are you gonna do. Something else...he is suspicious of Austin for his entrance into the thread. On June 23 2013 06:19 Zephirdd wrote: austinmcc, specifically, strikes are very scummy to me. All he's done is asking questions to a guy who was clearly away from the thread(me), and it looks like he is asking for advice more than how-a-scum-thinks. I'll wait for more contributions out of him. Asking questions to a guy who is clearly away from the thread...but these questions were useful and helped the discussion enough to draw out in detail answers from Zeph? So...if the content of the questions is pro-town, then we are left with the timing only, yes? I don't see how a person asking good and useful questions to someone who isn't currently in thread could result in a 'very scummy' read. This looks like a fabrication. ##vote Zephirdd | ||
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Gonzaw's case was terrible. Don't care about that either atm. I feel dumber having read it. You seem content to sail off into confirmation bias land though, so enjoy your journey! The rest of you bubba's, get your vote on. Let's kill Zeph. | ||
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1 day, 1 apple anyway, my kid is having a blast outside so I'm gonna go enjoy that for a bit. back in 30 mins maybe? | ||
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Why are we not lynching Zeph? | ||
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We definitely need a lynch, and we have a good chance to hit scum with Zeph. | ||
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I started leaning town on him fairly early, and when BC shot him, I found it a little upsetting. | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:05 kitaman27 wrote: So here is where I'm at: I think there are plenty of people that did a good job of looking obviously town on day one. We're in a good position because of that. Either BC is lying about the roleblock or the roleblocker anonymously saved Sk8rguy without claiming. Right now, I have a town read on BC due to the fact that he would have been making an unnecessary lie at little gain for himself. Plus the fact that there were multiple actions sent in leads me to believe the shot and block were real. The fact that the roleblocker has not claimed, makes me think that it was likely a scum roleblocker. If a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, he would have claimed to remove any unwarranted suspicion of Sk8r. A day blocker is hardly such a strong role in a game full of blues that it is worth a mislynch to keep your identity safe. The other alternative is that there is a scum roleblocker trying to save a town Sk8r in order to make him or BC look suspicious. From a mafia perspective, just letting Sk8r die would make more sense and make BC look bad in the process, which leads me to the conclusion that a scum roleblocker saved a scum Sk8r. Initially, I had a town read based on the way he was willing to attract attention to him by pushing BC and the way that he explained why he was using his role. However, based on the way that he moved off BC so easily explaining that he obviously wasn't going to get lynched and wanted to avoid a split vote is pretty scummy. As for the other people under suspicion... Between s0Lstice and Zeph, I think s0L is more likely to be scum. He is willing to call both BC and sk8r town, but doesn't really explain what happened to the roleblocker (unless he is the roleblocker himself). I don't follow his reasoning to come to a both town conclusion based on what he has shared. His vote on Zeph seems like he needs to come up with a lynch candidate and push it, but the reasoning he grabbed on to isn't very strong. He is pushing the Zeph lynch with too much confidence to think he was scum based on the reasoning provided, which is generally what I fall into as scum. Also, posts like these always seem like they are more likely to come from scum than town: Between I still think we should resolve the Sk8r situation first based on my reasoning above. ##Vote Sk8r Why the hell would I try to explain what happened to the roleblocker? I can make up a bunch of scenarios where the two of them can be either alignment based on what happened with the roleblocker, and not have any idea which is more likely, because its flippin PTP. I'm reading them like I'm not in PTP...like I said before, the old fashioned way. I kinda think you didn't even read my filter dude, because I've been over this. | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:13 kitaman27 wrote: Why the hell would I try to explain what happened to the roleblocker? I can make up a bunch of scenarios where the two of them can be either alignment based on what happened with the roleblocker, and not have any idea which is more likely, because its flippin PTP. I'm reading them like I'm not in PTP...like I said before, the old fashioned way. I kinda think you didn't even read my filter dude, because I've been over this. So it is your opinion that a town roleblocker saved Sk8r, but will not claim because he wants to see Sk8r burn at the stake? Or that a mafia roleblocker saved Sk9r because he wanted to lynch him rather than vig him?[/QUOTE] oh this is fun ...or one of the million lurkers we have has an automatic dayvig shutdown and hasn't been around to say anything about it or isn't caring/is checked out to the point that they don't realize that information would be pertinant right now? Like Xfire? your focus on this is silly | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:18 kitaman27 wrote: oh this is fun ...or one of the million lurkers we have has an automatic dayvig shutdown and hasn't been around to say anything about it or isn't caring/is checked out to the point that they don't realize that information would be pertinant right now? Like Xfire? your focus on this is silly So you're saying that there was a town dayblocker that happened to be around in time to save Sk8r, but hasn't returned in the thread since? That's a silly explanation.[/QUOTE] No, that the block was a passive ability that doesn't require any attention from the player at all to go through. I already outlined a possibility like this is my filter. Are you scum kita? You claimed to have just read me. | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:22 kitaman27 wrote: No, that the block was a passive ability that doesn't require any attention from the player at all to go through. I already outlined a possibility like this is my filter. Are you scum kita? You claimed to have just read me. Nope, are you omgusing me already just because I've shared a scum read on on you? How does it make sense for a player to own a passive "roleblock all vig shots" and not comment that they blocked the shots. Keep in mind it would require TWO people to remain silence since the role creator would also know of the passive block. I can't see how you can think this is the most likely scenario.[/QUOTE] yea dude fix your quote tags ![]() it would not require two people. Is BC lying when he said he got the role he created? this discussion we are having is really dumb. the point is we can't know what happened with the actions surrounding the shot because we don't do what actions are in the game and what governs them. literally any question you can ask me about this can be answered by that statement. you can't even get to what is 'likely' and what isn't, because you have to deal with 'plausible' first, and we don't know what's plausible until we get concrete evidence on the roles. | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:08 austinmcc wrote: cuz right now pushing off skater seems more effective than pushing on zeph. Also, people that I trust are reading skater differently, want to figure that out so I can read them better. you are doing a bang up job Austin. seems to me like you don't really care which of these guys go down. what guarantee do you have that the votes on skater would go to zeph, since you just left your case out to dry without a push behind it? | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:06 Xatalos wrote: I haven't put too much attention on him, but he's a heavy lurker without any actual impact on the game so far. That's very suspicious compared to my memory of him being a very clear town (as town) when we last played together a long time ago. Now he's everything but clear town. Certainly most suspicious of the lurkers in this game, and would lynch him rather than most other players, but not rather than you or WOS. Not exactly sure where I'd put Kurumi atm. (Btw you should refrain from dodging a question for once now that I answered you clearly, don't you think.) how do you feel about his actions surrounding this lynch? | ||
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