EPTPTP IV - Demon's Run - Page 2
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it's not much, but its a lil something | ||
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On June 22 2013 12:30 geript wrote: Austinmcc Bloody cobbler Crossfire 99 Dandel ion yay! | ||
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I'm not sure you were gonna get much more than what you already got, on the bright side! | ||
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On June 22 2013 19:31 Xatalos wrote: Hm yeah, looking at your history, I doubt that you would start like that as Mafia. Too effortless and careless IMO. But really, voting for Dandel Ion because of spam? Granted it's not impossible that he's Mafia and spamming to "ruin the atmosphere".. I think it's safe to say that's not a typical way to play scum, especially this actively. And do you even think he's Mafia or just voting because he annoys you? To what history are you referring? Kurumi has never started out as 'effortless and careless' as mafia? I'm actually fairly suspicious of you. Since your entrance into the thread, you've posted some very wordy entries that don't really say much of anything, and contain a few 'wtf' moments, like: On June 22 2013 21:13 Xatalos wrote: Hmm. This plan has far more negatives than positives IMO. Mafia are basically in the dark only about one thing: blue powers. If they know who created which role, it becomes easier to snipe players if the need appears to fakeclaim (just snipe the player who created a specific role). On the other hand, it becomes impossible for them to act until a certain player has been eliminated. This might be useful in the early game, but come late game, every has-to-be-eliminated player should already be eliminated. This just makes it easier for them to plan their shots. In addition, isn't it more advantegeous to keep Mafia completely in the dark? "Fear of the unknown is the greatest fear." That should apply to Mafia as well. Btw, is that Lovetap thing just a joke or an actual power? Who could possibly know the answer to the bolded other than skater guy? Why are you even asking this? Also your input on the claim discussion was wholly unnecessary, as the side you were arguing for was already well represented. S&B- This is ridiculous On June 22 2013 20:34 strongandbig wrote: Sk8rboi having his vote on bc is pretty weird ATM. If he's really read up on tlmafia like he says then he must have some idea what he's doing. I think he's trying to behave like "I not scared noob I vote big shot vet hurr hurr" and get people to have town reads on him. I don't like that. Fos on sk8rboi. Cool story, but the town side of that story seems just as likely. I agree with Acro that this is a weak FoS. Man, so many lurky folks. Kurumi is not reading the thread: On June 23 2013 01:02 Kurumi wrote: Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff. Why did you claim who you made role for? You know that we are likely to have Assassin-type role, right? Easiest explanation is: he is playing around or has a role revolving around voting people. Keep that somewhere when we have more evidence pointing at sk8r (if any). For some reason geript taunts me with his posts so I am not going to quote him ever, sorry guys. This after Acro explained tirelessly why he likes the claim idea. I could kill Kurumi and feel ok about it. Skater guy- You really need to clear up your thoughts on BC more. Why is BC scum? Like, I think I know what you are thinking...but these whole 'I voted to gauge reactions' and 'normal people would see my vote as just trolling' things muddy the waters a lot. BC- Looking better with his recent posts. Back to null for me. That's me being caught up. Gonna go back and dig more to refresh my scum reads. | ||
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On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure. Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy. Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote. This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it. | ||
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Before I'm done though, my list will probably be something like Xatalos (lovetap question, wordy/blendy with no content...I need to look at his scum read of you in more detail though and see how I feel about it), Kurumi for not reading/caring, S&B for jumping on skater guy for odd reasons (it's like he picked the easiest target in the thread and then just pulled a reason out of his ass). More on these later. | ||
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I'm also curious to know what happened between this: On June 23 2013 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: I don't think it's self-explanatory at all. Acro, I am neither a fail scum or an inept townie. It's not going to be that easy for you, my man. As far as scumreads go, don't have any yet, aside from you. If you're so keen to drive conversation along towards other reads all of a sudden, do you have any others? and your unvote that caused the unvote. Was your read on Acro just for shitsngiggles mainly? | ||
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I hope I'm wrong, but I really am not a fan of this BC. He was at least talking a lot, and would have been readable more and more as we continued...annoying or not, I think you just killed a townie. | ||
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This game is getting spicy(dinosaur). | ||
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you are suggesting that BC, aware of his meta, is impersonating his town meta (losing temper) for the purposes of manipulation? If so, how is this more likely than the simple explanation that 'BC is playing to his meta.' | ||
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The reason meta works at all is because people play to it without realizing it. If meta was manipulable i.e. I know my meta and can therefore use it to confuse people...then meta would break down entirely. I think you believe what you are saying though, so I don't care so much about how correct I think your view on it is. | ||
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On June 23 2013 05:25 WaveofShadow wrote: You really think something this obvious that people recognize BC for is something he'd do without realizing it? This isn't a subtle tell we're talking about here like misspelling words or using certain phrases. Meta is completely manipulable on a grand scale; it's the subtle things that actually make meta reads useful. I found it particularly easy to play to my town meta on all the obvious points that people recognized me for, but I can think of a couple things I definitely did completely differently that game that nobody picked up on that would have gotten me nailed. The issue is that if you can convincingly do something as either alignment, then that particular thing is not part of your town or scum meta. You saying you were aware of what people attributed to town you, and thus could include them in your scum play, makes those elements not part of your meta at all, despite people thinking they did. This is why meta arguments fail so often...because elements of peoples play that should go in to a meta case are things that are not reliably controllable/stem from the subconscious. Also, being aware of ones meta as scum (or more specifically, things that other people typically assign to scum or town you, whether correct or not) follows the same rules as all other scum play. You are putting on a show by falsely playing to your town 'meta,' and can fall in to the same traps that scum fall into when they are making fake cases/fake contributions etc. To be clear, I really don't care how this discussion you and I are having applies to BC. I asked to get a clearer view of your alignment WoS. Stepping out for a bit now. | ||
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Kita and Acro jumped the shark while I was away. WTF guys | ||
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Acro...skater was the target of the shot, time is going to dilate for him while waiting for a mod post, hence he'll be the one to decide its fake first. | ||
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You are a vig switch! Until you are dead, anyone attempting to use a vigilante type ability is immediately roleblocked! use your imagination guys. we know so little about what roles are in the game right now. Skater- I think you are both probably town. I've said my reasoning on you before. As for BC, as this went on, the more clear it became that he really believes you are contributing to an anti-town atmosphere. I don't agree with the action, but the intent looks pure to me. A vig removing a person he views as hurtful to town is not a bad shot as far as that vig is concerned. | ||
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my Xata and SnB reads have your panties in a bunch? nothing has changed, suspicions are definitely still there. The only thing of note with my scumreads that has happened between then and now is Xata's response, and I'm still considering it. I said I will update, and I will, but not before I'm ready. | ||
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