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On July 19 2013 10:20 kushm4sta wrote:
gotta say I agree with vivax's opinion on marv. He was soft defending sloosh in our PMs. Also he says he thought the DBZ lynch was retarded yet he did nothing to stop it.
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vayne/koshi
what u think of this?
importantly it is made during night1... so no scum role cop or town parity check info was released
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Oh, I thought kush was SK. Hot damn.
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##Vote: Mocsta
He keeps trying to persuade me in PMs that I'm SK, and refuses to listen to reason. He can't be town.
It's at very best extremely extremely odd how he's trying to convince me that I'm SK. I'll post some logs later.
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MZ looks pretty atrocious now that kush has flipped actually.
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On August 01 2013 00:59 marvellosity wrote:
MZ looks pretty atrocious now that kush has flipped actually.
atrocious xD? try confirmed.
I think that's why the SK shot him. There was no reason to be on MZ by yourself last night unless your fucking kush trying to bus your entire team the entire game. LOLZ
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On August 01 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote:Meapak
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hold up cowboy
1. do u think koshi masoning vivax is a town or scummy thing to do?
I lean one way if koshi is noon, and one way if koshi is experienced.., need help here
2. are u calling mz Mafia with that vote?
I actually like Marv as final scum... I have 3 kush posts telling the threwad to lynch Marv.
and there's also a post where Marv details his PMS with yam, and refers to him as obvious townie etc.
3. current count is 3 town, 1 Mafia, 1 SK
if town mislynches, we go into kingmaker scenario
I'm not saying mz is town, I'm asking why u would rather lynch him over Marv?
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I was really hoping MZ wouldn't troll the town like that as mafia, but looks like I was probably wrong. Makes me a sad marv.
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On August 01 2013 01:27 Mocsta wrote:(6/25) hold up cowboy 1. do u think koshi masoning vivax is a town or scummy thing to do? I lean one way if koshi is noon, and one way if koshi is experienced.., need help here 2. are u calling mz Mafia with that vote? I actually like Marv as final scum... I have 3 kush posts telling the threwad to lynch Marv.
and there's also a post where Marv details his PMS with yam, and refers to him as obvious townie etc.3. current count is 3 town, 1 Mafia, 1 SK if town mislynches, we go into kingmaker scenario I'm not saying mz is town, I'm asking why u would rather lynch him over Marv?
This is why you just can't be town.
I dare you to go through the thread and count how many times kush told us to lynch MZ. Go on, do it.
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I just don't see marv faking the sloosh PMs for no reason. He's SK or nothing to me.
I'm pretty sure Koshi is town besides the fact that he was just using vivax as a puppet for a while and the case I made on him early in the game, but a lot has happened since then
Honestly it's either you or marv for SK...so if you are town you should realize that if you truly think marv is the godfather, (which is dumb btw since scum has been hinting they have a rolecop as their last role all game) then idk what to tell you.
Everything points to meapak being the last scum at this point and if meapak flips rolecop scum then we know that marv is some sort of godfather SK role imo.
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right, so basically u feel more confident mz is anti town vs Marv?
hhmmm, I'm equally sure both are anti town, so walk me through why u are concenprned about my play?
when I came into the game, even replacing an afk lurker.. I wasn't up for contention... why would I as SK try and actively solve this game?
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read the 3rd paragraph again, im showing you why if you are town, yes you should feel a lot better about an MZ lynch
has the different check from FT.
kush bussed every teammate so far
scum hinted they have rolecop (only 1 scum left, doubtful godfather)
the sloosh PMs
everything points to MZ being the last scum.
Marv can still be godfather SK but that's SO much more unlikely.
Let's keep in mind that with koshi too it's a way less sure thing.
Do you see why MZ is the proper lynch here?
if you can debunk this, i will do whatever you want lol!
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Vayne is town, Mocsta is SK. Koshi is town. This game is solved as far as I'm concerned.
Mocsta is constantly and consistently pushing me as SK with no rational basis. It makes literally no sense unless he's the SK himself. I'll vote MZ with you though Vayne.
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##Vote: MZ
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On August 01 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
Vayne is town, Mocsta is SK. Koshi is town. This game is solved as far as I'm concerned.
Mocsta is constantly and consistently pushing me as SK with no rational basis. It makes literally no sense unless he's the SK himself. I'll vote MZ with you though Vayne.
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##Vote: MZ
That actually makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. SK in this scenario would try to push obvious town, then with 4 left hes protected by his BP vest so he just has to hope scum shoots town and he can guess shoot the last mafia freely.
I don't see any other reason for him to push such an unlikely scum candidate
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the way I see the game is this.
koshi is playing innocent noon town
you and I play a similar town game, in the sense of get into peoples faces. I refuse to think you are SK, and u r certainly not scum. the fact that its only u and me trying to figure this out a deeply suggests we are both town regardless.
this leaves Marv and mz as final two anti town... I don't care who is scum or SK, I just am certain both are anti town.
whosws harder to lynch in general... mz or Marv? my concern is... if we lynch mz... and Marv shoots you or me... that we might not be able to convince koshi to vote with us, as he seems to be a kindred spirit...
that is why I prwgere Marv over mz...
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On August 01 2013 01:54 Mocsta wrote:
the way I see the game is this.
koshi is playing innocent noon town
you and I play a similar town game, in the sense of get into peoples faces. I refuse to think you are SK, and u r certainly not scum. the fact that its only u and me trying to figure this out a deeply suggests we are both town regardless.
this leaves Marv and mz as final two anti town... I don't care who is scum or SK, I just am certain both are anti town.
whosws harder to lynch in general... mz or Marv? my concern is... if we lynch mz... and Marv shoots you or me... that we might not be able to convince koshi to vote with us, as he seems to be a kindred spirit...
that is why I prwgere Marv over mz...
2 scenarios for me I'm gonna try and work with you on this
ok we flip MZ and he's scum.
Marv would have to be a godfather SK role which is extremely unlikely. if he actually rolled that and got the parity cop checks like that then he deserves to win due to sheer luck.
ok we flip MZ and he's SK. Marv would have to be godfather last scum and have faked those sloosh PMs and a bunch of other crazy shit. If he actually went through all that then so be it, but I can't believe that for a second.
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On August 01 2013 01:53 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
Vayne is town, Mocsta is SK. Koshi is town. This game is solved as far as I'm concerned.
Mocsta is constantly and consistently pushing me as SK with no rational basis. It makes literally no sense unless he's the SK himself. I'll vote MZ with you though Vayne.
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##Vote: MZ That actually makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. SK in this scenario would try to push obvious town, then with 4 left hes protected by his BP vest so he just has to hope scum shoots town and he can guess shoot the last mafia freely. I don't see any other reason for him to push such an unlikely scum candidate
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firstly, if u r referring to me pushing Marv.. that means u think he is unlikely antitown? when previously u said SK could be me or him.
secondly, you yourself said that scum should have role cop left... who pardoned sloosh then? it's not ideal to assume motives are based on things you can not prove, I.e, bp vest
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Vayne's being logical. Mocsta is being crazy and never responds to any of the logical arguments I presented in thread before or now, or to Vayne.
Easy peasy.
secondly, you yourself said that scum should have role cop left... who pardoned sloosh then? it's not ideal to assume motives are based on things you can not prove, I.e, bp vest
Says the guy who's pushing me as GODFATHER SERIAL KILLER? Are you fucking serious right now?
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On August 01 2013 02:01 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 01:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 01 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
Vayne is town, Mocsta is SK. Koshi is town. This game is solved as far as I'm concerned.
Mocsta is constantly and consistently pushing me as SK with no rational basis. It makes literally no sense unless he's the SK himself. I'll vote MZ with you though Vayne.
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##Vote: MZ That actually makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. SK in this scenario would try to push obvious town, then with 4 left hes protected by his BP vest so he just has to hope scum shoots town and he can guess shoot the last mafia freely. I don't see any other reason for him to push such an unlikely scum candidate (9/25) firstly, if u r referring to me pushing Marv.. that means u think he is unlikely antitown? when previously u said SK could be me or him. secondly, you yourself said that scum should have role cop left... who pardoned sloosh then? it's not ideal to assume motives are based on things you can not prove, I.e, bp vest
yea I had a sort of revelation then as to why you might be doing this, doesn't have to be correct. I was wrong about the oats/marv thing.
At this point, as I pointed out in my post above. YES, I find it very hard for marv to be antitown given those 2 scenarios. It's way too ridiculous.
The sloosh pardon is still a mystery, can't wait for endgame to see wtf happened there since rayn was actually town.
BP SK is the most common form of it, so I think it's safe to assume that.
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On August 01 2013 01:57 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 01:54 Mocsta wrote:
the way I see the game is this.
koshi is playing innocent noon town
you and I play a similar town game, in the sense of get into peoples faces. I refuse to think you are SK, and u r certainly not scum. the fact that its only u and me trying to figure this out a deeply suggests we are both town regardless.
this leaves Marv and mz as final two anti town... I don't care who is scum or SK, I just am certain both are anti town.
whosws harder to lynch in general... mz or Marv? my concern is... if we lynch mz... and Marv shoots you or me... that we might not be able to convince koshi to vote with us, as he seems to be a kindred spirit...
that is why I prwgere Marv over mz... 2 scenarios for me I'm gonna try and work with you on this ok we flip MZ and he's scum. Marv would have to be a godfather SK role which is extremely unlikely. if he actually rolled that and got the parity cop checks like that then he deserves to win due to sheer luck. ok we flip MZ and he's SK. Marv would have to be godfather last scum and have faked those sloosh PMs and a bunch of other crazy shit. If he actually went through all that then so be it, but I can't believe that for a second.
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thanks for continuing the discussion
1. kush started bussing sloosh, yam day1. and made references to vote Marv several times.
it wasn't until after the Marv/mz parity check that kush started posting about mz
2. just because scum hinted role cop doesn't mean they have it. I get what u mean with sloosh PMS, butbheck that's kept Marv in the game... I mean if u were town and someone pm u to call u SK.., do untjink u would have reacted as apathetic as Marv? the whole thing smells bogus to me
3. in regards to the green check against ft.. how much do we trust oats parity check.. he admitted he didn't submit night 2... do parity checks even work if u forget to submit??
4. if SK can choose gf, just remember the choice was with hapa not Marv.
5. did u read my PMS with Marv.. he's not trying to figure out anything... common man, he clearly doesn't care about the game, but now comes out of the woodworks to lay down a vote...
I can admit that mz play is in general more abysmal than Marv.
however, I just can't see how u can say my play is more abysmal than Marv's.
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