[N] Sicilian Mafia Style - Page 50

On July 23 2013 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I asked my scumread to mason me and it did strengthen the read.
Otherwise i am masoned with townies and useless idk-what-alignment.Oats.

On July 23 2013 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
kushmasta and vayne;
- If i am town pardoner i am telling the truth which means mafia pardoned Sloosh which means he is scum.
- If i am scum pardoner i am probably lying about not pardoning Sloosh which means he is scum.

How can you reason voting me over Sloosh?

Also kush:

How is this post "useless spam"? I just stated i have a townread on people i am masoned with, other than Oats. You on the other hand are voting for me over near confirmed scum Sloosh and you are calling my posts useless spam. Seriously fuck you. Same can be said about layabout who has done shit. I would quadruble vig you if i had shots because you guys are so fucking bad.

On July 23 2013 03:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne. I hope you read this carefully and think about it because i am going to say this only once.

Your theory is that i claimed a pardoner, one of the best scum roles at the start of the game. Then my team silenced me right after gumshoe told me he is going to claim to me because apparently for scum!rayn it's better that he claimed to marv instead. I have bussed slOosh the whole game as i was the first one to votefor him and i was actively trying to got people to vote for him.

- There is no reason why i should/would have claimed pardoner as mafia. The thing that everyone now knows there actually is a pardoner in the game speaks in favor of that, because the only situation where it would be beneficial for scum (if i was scum) would be that there is not actually a pardoner at all.
- There is no reason why i would have myself silenced over some active townie if i was mafia. D1 was fucking inactive and if i silenced myself as mafia gains me nothing. Actually it does the opposite as gumshoe is about to claim to me.
- There is no reason i should have pushed slOosh the entire game as mafia, there have been other targets (like half of the players on D1). The only time i let go of sloosh for a while was when he masoned me. That was because i wanted to give him a chance to prove his towniness. Why would i not tell sloosh to even try to make some good shit up if i was mafia? We could have easily made him look better.

None of the actions you think i am scum for do make sense from scum!rayn pov. There would be no reason for me to claim pardoner if i was mafia. There was no benefit in silencing myself if i was mafia, actually it would only hurt my team (we lose a claim + power, for nothing). There is no reason i would have bussed sloosh for the entire game when there were like 10 other targets at that time.

Can you please try to understand why you are wrong on this, and can you please look for actual mafia if you are town?
thanks.

On July 23 2013 14:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Down like funky town.

Pardoner really screws everything up. Hopefully Sloosh is scum, which I believe he is, but if he's not, it's probably gg.

Here goes nothing.

On July 23 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:


Alright I'll try to go through this. I know you think it's silly but you can't pretend like you couldn't pull this off. It's not that pretentious.

1. The bussing thing is irrelevant since if I am scum like you say I am, then what is the difference between us there?

2. You don't need the claim from gumshoe, the fact that he wanted to claim to you is enough to let you know its something fairly important. Also note that he died the first night...doesn't exactly help your case since you were masoned with him. I thought the silencing thing didn't make sense at first but lets be real it's not that great of a role. Why risk confirming some one as town when you can just silence a teammate? It reduces the effort they have to put in and makes them more townie. Its a win/win.

3. If you are a scum-sided pardoner then your best bet is to immediately claim and use your pardon without admitting it so that you can fuck with the town. If you don't claim then you are a lot less immune proof and you definitely don't get masoned by so many people. It allows you to be behind the scenes and manipulate people as a result of your claim.

4. just a repeat of 2

5. just a repeat of 1

The one thing you have going for you here that you didn't mention for whatever reason is that I don't think you are dumb enough to do the fake claim and then @ late game obviously everyone will wonder wtf you are still alive.

That fact alone is making me re-think that you are scum, but the rest of the stuff you just said? Doesn't really change anything about the theory.

In rebuttal

What is the difference between us when it comes to sloosh that you are trying to misrepresent/pounce on me for?

Why are you letting up now that its apparent that only MZ shares your interests (who I believe is scum for sure btw)

And as an aside, why do you think marv is so happy go lucky in this game? If we compare this game to the new game that just started where he's hydra'ed with VE, he is getting into some crazy arguments and being pretty confrontational. Here he's settling fights and just doing some basic analyzation but not really pushing for anything. If we cross analyze that with his "I don't get into fights as scum" thing I find it hard to believe he is town this game, but he doesn't feel like scum either.

3rd party marv?

On July 23 2013 18:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Am I really worth killing? I'm just trying to stay out of the way, since vayne doesn't need vets I'm waiting to be dazzled by his scum hunting brilliance

On July 23 2013 18:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Am I really worth killing? I'm just trying to stay out of the way, since vayne doesn't need vets I'm waiting to be dazzled by his scum hunting brilliance