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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2013 22:32 GMT
#1021
Actually this shit just got pretty interesting.

I have information about a parity cop check that is Meapak - marv "different". Given what Sloosh said this gonna be something to discuss.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2013 22:32 GMT
#1022
This just means that we need to lynch SloOsh first, and after that marv. ezpz.
I had a good night of sleep.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 23 2013 22:34 GMT
#1023
wait rayne you have 2 blue roles wtf
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 23 2013 22:35 GMT
#1024
what the fuck is wrong with you people?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2013 22:36 GMT
#1025
On July 24 2013 07:34 kushm4sta wrote:
wait rayne you have 2 blue roles wtf

Having information does not mean i am a cop.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2013 22:36 GMT
#1026
On July 24 2013 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
what the fuck is wrong with you people?

Please tell us. We don't know.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 23 2013 22:37 GMT
#1027
I don't provide that shit to the thread to incriminate myself, you know.

Although it seems pretty obvious that slOosh opened with that to incriminate me.

Are you really that slow?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 23 2013 22:43 GMT
#1028
you brought it to the thread in a misguided attempt to look town.

Why would scum go to you if they didn't get a check on you? You didn't look particularly like sk.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 23 2013 22:45 GMT
#1029
On July 24 2013 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
I don't provide that shit to the thread to incriminate myself, you know.

Although it seems pretty obvious that slOosh opened with that to incriminate me.

Are you really that slow?


Well there's a few scenarios here

1. You are town and meapak is scum/SK

2. You are scum and Meapak is town/SK (probably the most unlikely)

3. You are SK and meapak is town/scum

I think we can safely agree based on what you've done here that option 1 is our best choice, and we should be lynching meapak tomorrow.
I come in for the scraps
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 23 2013 22:46 GMT
#1030
How was it a misguided attempt to look town? Jesus fuck. I brought it to the thread because I have a scummer claiming scum to me and asking me to shoot at people.

I have no idea why scum came to me. Again, the alternative is to NOT post a conversation where it looks like I'm SK. Why is this so excruciatingly obvious to me and yet everyone else doesn't get this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2013 22:54 GMT
#1031
OKAY. HERE IS THE SITUATION WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW:

This includes a lot of people. I am protecting their identity and you need to tell me who is scum and why:

There is a person X who is masoned with a Z. Z claims parity cop to X (this is not confirmed), and claims they have a "different" check on marv-meapak. X is masoned with Y. They tell Y this (not confirmed) and tell them to share that information with someone to tell that in thread. Y is masoned with me, tells me about this and asks if it's wise to say that in thread. Here is my response to them:
There is no reason to out the check before the deadline. It'll only cause possible chaos and people can be dumb enough to do something stupid instead of lynching Sloosh. I don't know if it's wise to out the info even on the night phase, as if the cop is alive they can just out the check results in D4. If not, we can tell that info in thread, as me & you know about that.

After this i share that information i have about X, Y and Z with W. I give them all the names too.

After this happens the Sloosh - marv chat (i think? - marv, when did you talk with Sloosh?).

Now who is most likely to be scum?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 23 2013 23:06 GMT
#1032
Thats confusing as fuck but if I understand correctly Y is the scum here.

Z = cop

X = Chain of command

Y = Sneak looking for confirmation before saying anything to look good, while he's actively passing info.

Alternatively the Z could be a scum cop fucking with us and that is why they sent out these logs with sloosh + marv.

X seems like town in that scenario though, any way you slice it
I come in for the scraps
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 23 2013 23:06 GMT
#1033
Literally copy/pasted when we'd finished.

He also called me handsome (no homo) btw.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 23 2013 23:10 GMT
#1034
On July 24 2013 06:38 kushm4sta wrote:
@SnB
not buying this:
Show nested quote +

@marv what do you mean it doesn't make sense for town to shoot ace. He was actively refusing to engage in any way that could either help find scum or show us he's town. And he was actively disrupting and confusing the thread and advancing the scum agenda. I know how hard it is to get ace lunched, and I had a bullet, so I shot him.

Plus I got to shoot ace. Right in the face.


He fakeclaimed to test FT's reaction. That is worthy of a vig shot?
You are accusing Ace of trolling basically. Show me a quote where he is trolling to the extent that he deserves a vig shot.

You thought FT looked at least a little scummy at the time. In fact you had voted him earlier in the day. You never declare that you have a townread on FT.
How do you shoot Ace without a townread on FT??? obviously they aren't both scum


this is dumb. of course they could both be scum, but more generally i don't let connection theories between unflipped players influence my thought process. when i was thinking about whether ace was scum i didn't worry about whether or not tofu was scum.

but to go a step further - i didn't and don't think ace fakeclaimed to test ft's reaction. he didn't even claim the cop check was on ft. and he made his claim obviously fake.

On July 24 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 03:56 strongandbig wrote:
On July 24 2013 00:06 kushm4sta wrote:
next two lynches are set in stone, so it makes sense that the game is kind of dead. blame ver for making a game with pardoners imo.

green/ can pardoner pardon themselves? /green




lynch after sloosh is not set in stone. no one has yet given a good reason for lynching me. so stop just assuming i'm gonna get mislynched.

SnB please go in attack mode if you can. Who do you think is scummy, Why?

We only see you defending D:

it's hard to do much but defend when everyone is constantly attacking you and when you have to push back against people just assuming they're going to lynch you without actually making a case.

basically all my time thinking about mafia has been focused on this, and on ace/firmtofu and on ve/sloosh. now that all of those situations are pretty much resolved, i have to look into the cases that have been made on layabout and meapak.

but chezinu is someone else who should be carefully looked at. I have to compare his play to nuclear winter mafia but off the top of my head i don't see anything here that is differetn from his scum play there.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2013 23:18 GMT
#1035
marvellosity and snb, elaborate on what i posted.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 24 2013 00:01 GMT
#1036
Well marv confirmed scum lol.

Sloosh today marv tomorrow.

Actually if the jubjubs want to lynch me tomorrow I'll be fine provided you lynch marv the next day.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 24 2013 00:03 GMT
#1037
If I don't notice a flurry of activity I will probably end the day early because I'm going out tonight. The deadline is about 2 hours from this post (normally 3 hours from this post) That's 10PM EST instead of 11pm.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 00:11 GMT
#1038
What MZ? What?
Why cant marv be 3P?
No gg, No skill.
kholly
Profile Joined April 2013
United States74 Posts
July 24 2013 00:12 GMT
#1039
On July 24 2013 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
OKAY. HERE IS THE SITUATION WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW:

This includes a lot of people. I am protecting their identity and you need to tell me who is scum and why:

There is a person X who is masoned with a Z. Z claims parity cop to X (this is not confirmed), and claims they have a "different" check on marv-meapak. X is masoned with Y. They tell Y this (not confirmed) and tell them to share that information with someone to tell that in thread. Y is masoned with me, tells me about this and asks if it's wise to say that in thread. Here is my response to them:
Show nested quote +
There is no reason to out the check before the deadline. It'll only cause possible chaos and people can be dumb enough to do something stupid instead of lynching Sloosh. I don't know if it's wise to out the info even on the night phase, as if the cop is alive they can just out the check results in D4. If not, we can tell that info in thread, as me & you know about that.

After this i share that information i have about X, Y and Z with W. I give them all the names too.

After this happens the Sloosh - marv chat (i think? - marv, when did you talk with Sloosh?).

Now who is most likely to be scum?


what if one is blue and the other is green. Why are people ignoring this fact. They even talk about a sk but no the possibility of a blue.

But then again... VE was green yet possess a blue role... while ace was blue with a blue role....

The Silencer is not alone in contradictions..

The possibility of multiple cops seems likely due to the following constraints:

mafia pros

suppose mafia has pardoner, Silencer and dayvig
mafia has KP of 2 (the sK is a lie, yes it is uncapitalized! Cause I'm a חבל - chebel [aka I used no encryption here. I no breaks rules even though I claim to be a chebel]).
plurality lynching

town roles

pardoner (pretty useless, no info if used and allows mafia 2 more night kills)
jailkeeper
bodyguard (kind of uselesss, replace town with other town or replace scum with town.. yeah guarantee lost of town life)
dayvig - one shot
nightvig - one shot

Therefore, Y is mafia! Cause you know, Dr. Evil. Wait, I don't make sense. I can't just jump to conclusions now.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 00:14 GMT
#1040
what dayvig?
No gg, No skill.
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