You're putting your faith into 10 % , come lynch stutters instead. That guy skates by, his effort dropped off, he doesn't post analysis or reasoning. Everything that happened so far points to him being most likely scum.

Vivax

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June 14 2013 19:07 GMT

#1419

On June 05 2013 06:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Oh, one more thing Rayne, if he's trying to change his meta than he needs to be here and actively trying. Regardless of his alignment he appears disinterested and from my experiences he's not nearly as involved as scum as town.

On June 05 2013 14:04 Stutters695 wrote:
You could literally say that about 3/4 the thread. Why ace specifically?

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Also, where are you Ace?

On June 06 2013 02:58 Stutters695 wrote:
##vote: raynpelikoneet

PLEASE, go to stutters' filter, where the posts are located, read what stutters writes since his first post about Rayn, then look at what he's writing about ace, and last, check the timing of his vote.

It reeks of scum play, I want to lynch stutters today.

##Unvote
##Vote stutters

Vivax

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June 14 2013 19:38 GMT

#1423

You mention Rayn as read en passe, but in the process until your vote you:

→ spend time talking about everyone else except Rayn
→ put him and vayne into the same category with ace when Oats asks to lynch him (as defense for ace)
→ Only vote Rayn when the bandwagon is up and running, no reasons given.

What I find most scummy though is how you currently hopped on my bandwagon, refusing to voice any reasons, you just sit there and watch shit happen and repeat that I am the best lynch.

You ignored the questions I posed to you, so answer them now. What are your arguments for lynching me? Do you have your own ? Which one, else, which are you sheeping?

Vivax

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June 14 2013 19:40 GMT

#1424

More importantly though, should I flip town, will you keep opting for Sentinel's lynch?

Vivax

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June 14 2013 21:04 GMT

#1433

Guys, we need to start consolidating.

It's clear that the lynch today will be between me and my greencheck cause no one seems to be considering stutters, who avoids my questions on purpose due to general lack of pressure.

I realize Sentinel has been playing... Well, weird. But I want you all to consider switching to stutters cause I wouldn't feel confident about voting a guy with 10 % odds of being scum despite his play.

Otherwise, I'll vote Sentinel for self-preservation and face the risk cause I'm sure I'll be more of value, at least we will have gotten rid of someone who doesn't help town at all. With some chance he might even flip red, let's hope that at least.

Layabout, the prplhz lynch isn't going anywhere. Can I ask you to give me your opinion on stutters and then make your choice?

Vivax

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June 14 2013 21:12 GMT

#1434

lalala

Vivax

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June 14 2013 21:33 GMT

#1437

I hope he flips scum at least :/

##Unvote
##Vote [UON]Sentinel

Vivax

22393 Posts

June 14 2013 21:51 GMT

#1439

The case on stutters seems okay but i have kind of stopped playing

Come on, there wasn't even a red check after N2 ;D

Vivax

22393 Posts

June 14 2013 22:03 GMT

#1444

On June 15 2013 06:59 prplhz wrote:
i think today's lynch is a crapshoot

I agree, let's start a bandwagon on st-t-t-tutters

Vivax

22393 Posts

June 14 2013 22:05 GMT

#1446

On June 15 2013 07:03 kitaman27 wrote:
It makes so much more sense to lynch vivax so we can resolve the Vivax/prpl than blindly lynch into the green check. Not sure why I'm being ignored.

Kita, since you're eager to lynch me for information, could you tell me how you plan to draw conclusions about prplhz from my flip?

Vivax

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June 14 2013 22:20 GMT

#1454

On June 15 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:

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On June 15 2013 00:46 Vivax wrote:

On June 15 2013 00:32 kitaman27 wrote:
At the same time, we have this interaction from Ace:

On June 10 2013 05:39 Ace wrote:
Stutters if you're still around I've got a question for you

On June 10 2013 05:57 Ace wrote:

On June 10 2013 05:49 Stutters695 wrote:
Sure, shoot. LXI you were the serial poisoner who was playing so town you got caught because you kept getting defensively RBd.

Aww I'll take that as a compliment. Although I'd like you to point what is so un-Town like about me this game.

So here's my question. Imagine you get cop night 1 this game. Your top scum read comes back with a red check. You are under no pressure of getting lynched. Would you claim? In essence tell me what you would have done differently than I did because this isn't making sense to me.

Do you think that Ace is trying to convince his own scum buddy to do something?

At first glance it looks good for stutters cause ace is being inquisitive with him and I see that as unlikely between sbuddies, but
what matters more is the answer:

On June 10 2013 07:32 Stutters695 wrote:

On June 10 2013 05:57 Ace wrote:

On June 10 2013 05:49 Stutters695 wrote:
Sure, shoot. LXI you were the serial poisoner who was playing so town you got caught because you kept getting defensively RBd.

I'll give you what I see non-town tomorrow during the day, too busy right now to quote/explain my concerns.

I would have done the same thing if I was town. However if I was scum and rolled cop n1 I would also probably do the same thing and fake the check then talk my way out of the mislynch.

I'll talk more about it later, gotta go though.

That he doesn't deliver town points doesn't really matter, he could also have been lazy and ace was dead anyway.
The answer regarding ace's "what if" however is in contrast to an earlier statement:

On June 08 2013 08:43 Stutters695 wrote:
Well it's one of my main points in favoring an oats lynch.

That and the fact that scum Ace should be wise enough to realize that a 2-1 trade isn't in scums favor when we still haven't mislynched. I really can't read oats though and that worries me.

Stutters gave ace leeway cause he said he wouldn't pull that stunt as scum, but afterwards, when ace was doomed, he said he could also see it coming from scum.

Going to be a couple posts on this so I can quote everything of relevance to vivax.

First is this lovely post. Vivax is painting my stance on the Ace/Oats situation as I was indecisive on it, which simply isn't true. Before we lynched Oats I expressed that Ace was more believable to me but was very clear that if Oats flipped town that Ace had to die. It was a poor play for Ace to sacrifice himself as a strong scum player(from my understanding) to get oats lynched. A super town Marv I could understand making that trade for but not Oats.

He is also trying to use my conversation with Ace as a misrepresentation. In the context of the conversation I was saying I would do that as scum to point out how his question to me was a null tell and although town would obviously claim as the cop there, that wasn't a point towards him being town.

Alright, let me understand this. You meant to say that you didn't see ace being scum cause it would have been poor play for him to trade himself for Oats. But once Oats flipped, you said you would have done the same in his position as scum, but also as town with a legit dt check.

I still see the same inconsistency I addressed cause you used two different justifications pre- and post-flip.
I mean, preflip you argued with the unlikelyhood of ace doing that to lynch oats, post-flip you argued that you'd have done it as scum.

You've still missed to point out why you found Rayn scummy but didn't follow up with anything until he was up for lynch. It's more of a fact but if you have thoughts to offer about that time then maybe it'll tell us more about your mindset back then.

Aaaand finally you still didn't give reasons for me being scum since you've joined my wagon for no reason at the start of the day.

Vivax

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June 14 2013 22:37 GMT

#1460

On June 13 2013 09:54 Stutters695 wrote:

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Trying to make up a case on me again? Didn't work in yanmm

Do you see the "even if one of them is scum"?
That actually implies that your activities are kinda townie, regardless of meta.

But a crass difference between early tryharding and later laziness is a scum-tell I see as generalized, not meta. Now we can start arguing on what is meta and whatnot, but that won't led anywhere.

Now I'm interested to hear why you've been holding this explanation back all the time though. I'm not sure if you're just clinging on some feeble explanation to keep your vote on me or if you're a paranoid townie who misread things (I've been there). And of course illustrating your thought process after you voiced your suspicion against Rayn would be helpful.

Vivax

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June 14 2013 22:41 GMT

#1461

Btw if Sentinel flips scum we have to look into kita hard.

I mean really hard.

Vivax

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June 14 2013 23:05 GMT

#1467

Let's see who gets checked next.

I don't know why I have a boner though, must be those eyes.

Vivax

22393 Posts

June 14 2013 23:08 GMT

#1469

Actually I'd like you to check me so we get this off the table and can start hunting scum.
Come at me.

Vivax

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June 14 2013 23:09 GMT

#1470

Do it or you'll feel my ...wraith

huehuehue

Vivax

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June 14 2013 23:15 GMT

#1471

Btw stutters keep up that style, you can clearly post better than your average standard, and the explanation so far has been pretty townie. I don't smell bollocks in that post.

Vivax

22393 Posts

June 15 2013 23:10 GMT

#1497

I hear scum weeping somewhere close.

Sorry bro I forgot the order.
VT anyway.