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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 06 2013 00:15 GMT
#525
On June 06 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haters.
ALLLL YOU HATERS

Yay maybe this means my meta analysis is actually getting better. Rayn doesn't sheep, this game he sheeps.
So this means mafia is pretty crippled right now, huh?


DI changed to kp rounds up so they're still at two. Hopefully we get a sick medic save.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 06 2013 17:39 GMT
#599
I'm kind of busy until tomorrow so don't expect a lot out of me before the day post. I'll try to get in what I can though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 14:48 GMT
#755
Absence isn't a scum tell on its own.
I also don't think Ace was a guaranteed lynch without the claim.

I need to check both of you guys but right now I'm finding it hard to believe ace would lie when it wasn't absolutely necessary.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#775
On June 07 2013 23:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 23:48 Stutters695 wrote:
Absence isn't a scum tell on its own.


I think you have to treat continued absence as a scum tell, otherwise it establishes a policy that it's fine to disappear without consequence.

Continued absence without any posting sure, but when there is posting there is stuff to interpret. People accuse me of being scum when I'm absent all the time, but reading my posts should make it pretty obvious I'm not. Rayne avoided saying anything in his posts and was lynched for it. Oats throwing out incredibly unlikely theories of how Ace is lying because he is absent isn't a reason to lynch and he should be showing how his posting shows that he's absent with the intent of avoiding discussion or something equally scummy.

Hopefully that makes sense, typing from my phone.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 16:03 GMT
#776
Also oats you kept throwing my name around as part of a scum team with Ace, Rayne and then a random fourth. While I wasn't here you seemed to have stopped, why is that?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 16:57 GMT
#788
I'm aware it's not a 1 for 1. If you end up being town it costs us 2 deaths. I think you're more likely to flip scum than Ace though currently.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 17:28 GMT
#798
You can't seriously expect a bastard game to be used to justify your play.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 17:42 GMT
#803
Also instead of for funzies answer this:
Did you think I was scum d1? If so do you still think so? If not what changed?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 20:54 GMT
#862
I'm having a really tough time looking into sentinel, I just don't get some of his posts from either perspective.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 21:47 GMT
#871
The I can't pull it up on my phone but he trolls way closer to being lynched as town unless there are some scum games I haven't seen where he does main difference between town oats and this game that I can tell is oats usually tries a bit harder as scum and is more likely to troll until he's lynched as town.

It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 22:17 GMT
#883
I think ace is more believable than oats. But if oats flips town, ace has to die. Opposite if Ace dies first and flips town.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 22:52 GMT
#891
Does anyone have anything to say about the meta read I posted on Oats? Any counterexamples?I really don't want to lynch into him over a poor meta read but afaik it's pretty true. I haven't seen his recent games though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 23:02 GMT
#894
On June 08 2013 06:47 Stutters695 wrote:
The I can't pull it up on my phone but he trolls way closer to being lynched as town unless there are some scum games I haven't seen where he does main difference between town oats and this game that I can tell is oats usually tries a bit harder as scum and is more likely to troll until he's lynched as town.

It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was.


Too hard to link on my phone, here's the quote it hit buried pretty quick
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 23:03 GMT
#895
Also sorry for that terrible grammar, was rushing that out.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 23:21 GMT
#897
##vote: oatsmaster

I'm open to change if there is a good reason but right now I don't see it.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 23:26 GMT
#899
Kita what do you think about that meta read?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 23:43 GMT
#901
Well it's one of my main points in favoring an oats lynch.

That and the fact that scum Ace should be wise enough to realize that a 2-1 trade isn't in scums favor when we still haven't mislynched. I really can't read oats though and that worries me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 09 2013 15:24 GMT
#1049
Well this is some shit. I'm actually a bit stumped. We still need to deal with Ace since we don't know if Oats was a Miller or not. Doing some reading for this, was really expecting a scum flip there.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 09 2013 20:04 GMT
#1065
On June 10 2013 04:57 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 04:55 Ace wrote:
On June 10 2013 04:50 layabout wrote:
On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote:
kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence?

Because you are taking a risk that has a potentially huge payoff


right, but I would have needed to get lucky 2 nights in a row and setup Oats ahead of time. Without checking me we mislynch and get up to 8 Town deaths and lylo. Which one seems like the smarter option here?

You don't have to tell ME?

wait 8?

8 town deaths, 9 total which puts us at 4-3.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 09 2013 20:31 GMT
#1068
On June 10 2013 05:03 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 04:57 layabout wrote:
On June 10 2013 04:55 Ace wrote:
On June 10 2013 04:50 layabout wrote:
On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote:
kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence?

Because you are taking a risk that has a potentially huge payoff


right, but I would have needed to get lucky 2 nights in a row and setup Oats ahead of time. Without checking me we mislynch and get up to 8 Town deaths and lylo. Which one seems like the smarter option here?

You don't have to tell ME?

wait 8?


zeph, sl0osh, Oats. 2 Town tonight, Me, 2 Town tomorrow night
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote:
kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence?


Gotta start ahead of time knowing oats will flip town.


??? So when you guys advocate not checking me, why didn't I take that as an out and run?


Here's my issue though Ace. Assuming you are scum, either you or a scum buddy rolled cop n1. With that knowledge and Oats general level of play a mislynch is easy to secure. You're also certainly aware of the odds of him getting miller being very low and that when you call for a cop check, we can't trust the result anyway because of both Miller and the possibility of a scumbuddy rolling cop and claiming you're green. If your play was more like LXI I'd probably be hesitant, but I don't see how we can trust you at all.
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