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On June 06 2013 01:53 Vivax wrote: @ Rayn If you're so sure about WoS being scum, what are you trying to achieve by claiming you want to kill ace and writing that bit about layabout? Vivax i reckon at least one of the people on the WoS wagon is scum. What do you think? | ||
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On June 06 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't necessarily think WoS is scum as its too early to tell but if that's my only other option besides rayn, so be it. He is one of my only townreads How did he come to be a townread? Especially if he "doesn't really have a meta" It better not be because of this: + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: + Show Spoiler + Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy. ##Unvote ##Vote: WoS btw i think vayne is town. + Show Spoiler + He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative. I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive. I also think prpl is town. Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town. | ||
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##unvote ##vote raynpelikoneet | ||
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sorry about my activity end of exams n' all jarjar, vayne and sent look bad but i will go over all that stuff tomorrow | ||
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On June 06 2013 00:52 layabout wrote: If you are town you cannot know if you are right or wrong because you do not know the other persons alignment. I am suggesting that sentinel scumslipped. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18807292 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18807319 | ||
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I was veteran last night although that's not really worth anything. | ||
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He is worrying about how he appears in the thread an awful lot as if he is convinced that he looks bad or he has a guilty conscience: + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2013 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Whether or not I sheep rayne my vote will look scummy. Going with my gut I guess. ##unvote ##vote: raynpelikoneet On June 06 2013 05:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I vote for him -> looks like a last minute bus I don't vote for him -> looks like conveniently ignoring him On June 06 2013 18:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Oats it wasn't a scumslip, you realize I was talking about "looking scummy", not "being scummy"? I had a problem changing my vote because I thought someone could make a case for me being scum either way. If I switched and rayn flipped red, it would look to potential accusers like I was bussing him. If I didn't, it would look to them like I was potentially ignoring him. Stop grasping at straws that don't exist (*hem* Ace *hem*) Ots pls This demonstrates a more of a mafia-focused mindset.Particularly in this post: On June 06 2013 19:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not. [UoN]Sentinel's priorities are all wrong. What matter's is finding and lynching mafia, we are all effectively vt's so town have even less reason to fear dying. Sent is busy worrying about he looks when he is convinced we are about to lynch mafia. This is very strange behavior for a townie but is reasonable behavior for mafia. | ||
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Zephirdd slOosh It would appear that Slo0sh was focused on [UoN]Sentinel yesterday (also rayne) and Zephird was focused on VayneAuthority and jaybrundage (a bit). | ||
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His approach to the lynch was both sensible and productive. | ||
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On June 07 2013 08:4javascript:addUBB_selected('reply_area',%20'quote')4 jaybrundage wrote: Well my reasoning is that if you think someone is scum and have a legitimate reason in your mind. Other people voting for your scum lynch is a good thing it shouldn't matter what their reasoning for it is. Whether it be an inactivity lynch or the same reason ace had. He went from Rayn being scum to prolly town due to other people votes on rayn being for activity reasons. Am i making sense? I'm not to gud at explaining things. But this is quite reasonable: Of these 2 are votes with really strong reasoning, another which comes off as vengeful (layabout) but equally valid since his feeling could be legit. All the other votes could be lumped into inactivity/not strong but rayne will do. And mine which is based on furba's case. That means half the wagon is voting for rayne based on inactivity and the other half because we think he is likely scum more than anyone else. I don't know if that is enough to actually overturn the wagon on him in 2 hours. The only person I'd consider at the moment over rayne is Oats and I don't think many people are up for lynching him. It's quite common to feel like your pushing a mislynch, especially when someone get's a bunch of quick votes and then the thread dies. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + no idea what happened to that quote | ||
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On June 07 2013 09:27 Ace wrote: the hell? Kita why are you ignoring everything I wrote? I think he had decided to act like you're mafia fake-claiming instead of trying to work out what the best course of action is. | ||
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On June 07 2013 08:07 WaveofShadow wrote: You know I thought there might be a chance in hell I'd be killed D1 because I'm awesome but yeah, wishful thinking. Oh well, scum will pay for not killing me. Oh wait, derp. Avoid the medic. Hmm so that means scum didn't have medic last night, huh? I was roleblocker. I was debating not claiming to see if anyone would be stupid enough to claim so I could shut them down but I really don't see that happening. WoS we have everything but yopur rb claimed so far, can you share it? We do not know if scum played avoid the medic we do not know if scum had the medic. | ||
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layabout - veteran jaybrundage - docotor protect vivax Ace - cop target oatmaster red check WaveofShadow- roleblocker block _____ slOosh - shot vt Zephirdd - shot vt prplhz - vt [UoN]Sentinel- vt Oatsmaster- vt Vivax- vt Stutters695- vt VayneAuthority- vt JarJarDinks- vt s0Lstice/kitaman27- vt mkfuba07- vt the miller/godfather role is somewhere amongst the vt's. If Ace is town that give's us a 1/9 of oats being town with miller. Otherwise Oats is mafia without miller power. If Ace is mafia then he or one of his teammates had the cop role and it's likely that oats is town. | ||
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On June 07 2013 09:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Did you read the thread? I didn't rb anyone. Explanation followed. Jay claimed medic and he protected Vivax. If he is scum then they're setting up one hell of a long-con imo. My bad for filtering you to see who you block an assuming you would, you know, roleblock someone. To stop them from killing us. The way i see it we either kill oats since the chance of him being miller is low and because we beleive ace is town, or we delay, lynch somebody else and hope for a copcheck tomorrow | ||
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If Ace flips at any point we will know if we can trust his check. A check of Oats on Ace could increase our certainty since if would confirm or deny the claim and we would be hoping the person checked does not get miller. | ||
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On June 07 2013 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote: This means Ace will never flip unless we do it ourselves, you know. Or I guess if they're both town. Yeah but lynching either is risky the chance of two town whilst ignoring them grants more checks allowing us to make a better decision. It also reduced the pool of player mafia are likely to shoot at improving the chance of us getting a medic save. We should lynch somebody else. I don't think following the cop is the best play to make in this situation. Especially since the correct(okay strong) play for mafia if they get the cop is to claim a red check. | ||
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On June 07 2013 22:05 JarJarDrinks wrote: It is a point. It may not be a point that stands on it's own. But it would be dumb not to take it into consideration. You know that he can't just say "OH MILLER MY BAD" and expect to not get lynched. There's like a 6% chance that you rolled miller. We just can't take miniscule possiblities into account like that. it's a 1 in 9 chance if oats is town. which is 11%, players only get 1 role so miller was one of the vts. | ||
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