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I thimk 5 is enough for majority
HOwever if someone gets itchy fingers. The lynch goes to poop.
LoOking at H3 here
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You have 5 votes, that's enough.
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Hullo.
I have no compunction about lynching TomB4 as I do think he's pretty scummy (I believe I made this point of him being scum earlier) but my vote remains on Ecc.
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TheDavison, i do not have a scumread on H3 but... i havent read his filter... im having trouble finding your case vs him in your filter... what is the reasoning?
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If we have a majority on tom, we should stay where we are. this is the right lynch.
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Eccle.
Smccoy made the case day3
And a.mcgann found points against h3 day2.
Im on phone but the case I wrote is full of spoilers.
And starts off talking about apologising foe long post
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Night 3
Tom the Vanilla Town has been lynched.
night ends in 24 hours.
Submit night actions to both me and GM
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Yes. Its just late.
No vote changes should count
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these posts?
On June 04 2013 13:30 SMcCoy wrote:Took a look at H3 and HW. They never mention each other. Except for this occasion where H3 is reminded that HW exists. Show nested quote +On June 02 2013 05:18 Hurndall3 wrote:On June 02 2013 05:10 SMcCoy wrote:On June 02 2013 04:59 Hurndall3 wrote:
lol why are people still bitching about an easy d1wagon if we caught scum?
I think tom is really town. He has written so much and gone really in depth about his thought process.
Scum is between pt, pf, ec, td.
Don't shoot pt (thats the rper right?) cause he prob gonna get modkilled. Who's pf? What do you think about JP and Hartnell? Yesterday you gave JP a 53 % chance of him being scum, it should now be around 99 %. by pf i meant JP LOL. Add hartnell to the list of possible scum also. I forgot about him. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Yeah, on the radar. He's acting too insecurely for my taste¸ as if he never catched up. He does contribute thoughts that look free-flowing, but they also give me the impression as if he's summarizing random stuff he sees while going through the game. I miss a certain directionality in his posts. He also promised a JP read at some point but preferred to do his thing with the freeflow posts. Didn't see it come out.I saw this: Show nested quote +On June 04 2013 09:50 PTroughton2 wrote:
Are we at majority with the 6 votes from the last vote count? I'm not 100% sure because math, but I will switch to ensure a lynch. Still would prefer Hartnell if enough show up to make that happen.
The JP claim feels like a reconciliation from him for not being able to be around today due to RL or whatever, and while making RL excuses in mafia is frowned upon, it's simply a fact that it happens.
To make sure we get a lynch.
##unvote
##vote JPertwee This "To make sure we get a lynch" kinda troubles me, too. He promised a JP read.
Most important point imo:Like, imagine you're troughton and you KNOW you're town, you read through the game, and you see that there's two guys pushing you while others go for a scum. By knowledge of your own alignment, you should already be suspicious of Tom and JP, but instead of getting to read them first, you read all sorts of other shit, providing thoughts on the go without voicing only those you find most suspicious. What trout was doing looks unnatural and does not really display a townie thought process. More like he's skimming through posts and providing some inconclusive comments on the go to look like he's doing something.
On June 06 2013 23:50 SMcCoy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2013 13:24 MSmith1 wrote:On May 30 2013 12:58 Hurndall3 wrote:
also I still want someone to explain SIMPLY the case on DrTennant that everyone is sheeping. @H3Okay I will summarize the points that smcc made against DrT as I see them. On May 29 2013 22:17 DrTennant wrote:
Why so wishy washy? You scum? 1) This quote from DrT, addressed towards smcc, doesn't seem genuine. Let's say that as a townie you read someone's post and get the feeling that they might be scum. You would probably ask questions trying to get in your suspect's head and understand why they posted what they posted, right? On the contrary, DrT just pulled out a "uscumbro?" which isn't a real question and shows hostility without doing anything productive. On May 29 2013 23:31 DrTennant wrote:On May 29 2013 23:21 SMcCoy wrote:On May 29 2013 22:17 DrTennant wrote:On May 29 2013 18:40 SMcCoy wrote:
Hello.
I took note of Eccleston's aggressive entrance.
His latest post suggests that he doesn't know what to make of MSmith.
I have bad vibes about him. My first guess would have been to assume that scum did not post yet, they have no interest in driving discussion at early stages. That is what I assume.
Eccleston's strange paranoid behavior with subtle criticism suggests that he has differing methods of finding scum or that he is trying to look like he's scumhunting by voicing quick, exaggerated suspicions with not much reasoning behind them. At first criticizing very early posts and then proceeding to call someone's actions ambiguous without specifying why.
We might just differ in our methods but I will be observing this subject during our stay and beg him to keep posts as informative and objective as possible. This is actually the scummiest post in thread in my opinion super ambiguous and actually says nothing. Says he took note of whatever that means offers some reasion why eccleston's posts might be interpreted as scummy then leaves justification for why it might not be. Why so wishy washy? You scum? It's a considerate post. At that point the majority of players didn't post, and I went by the assumption that scum doesn't post early. I voiced my opinion on Eccleston's excessive aggression, but it's not enough for me to make a judgment in light of the fact that scum might not even have posted yet. I think Ecclestone's posts might come from both a bad townie or scum. You call it ambiguous, expecting me to give a definite opinion. I would like you to tell me why you think that me voicing suspicion against a player is considered as saying nothing. Would you rather expect me to make a quick judgment this early in the game? Bolded your loaded question. Looks like faked hostility, doesn't reflect interest into finding out about my thought process. Well i don't know about you but i'm suspicious of everyone. i didnt take it as you saying you were suspicious of Eccleston i took as complete filler post that said absolutely nothing really and i took it as wishy washy and posting for the sake of posting by not taking a stance. I dont understand why making early judgements could be seen as bad i change my mind on things all the time based on new information and flip floping being scummy is a lie pushed by scum. Its only scummy when its convenient. So i dont understand your worry about making snap judgements. 2) In this post, DrT justifyied his own play and explained in some detail why what he posted isn't scummy. But nobody asked him to do this. Nobody was even calling him scum at the time. So in this post DrT betrays a defensive mindset. 3) And finally, smcc had a problem with the way that DrT attacked smcc's first post for being ambivalent and inconclusive, but chose to pass over Eccleston's equally ambivalent and inconclusive post about my alignment. This is slightly inconsistent. I think all of the points are valid. I don't believe any of them are completely damning, but I think that these three points combined with some of the recent points made by Baker/AMG/myself subsequent to DrT's response comprise the strongest case in the thread thus far. So what do you think H3? Show nested quote +On May 30 2013 14:15 Hurndall3 wrote:1 "uscumbro?" is null possibly leaning town. I know you don't like it because of how it effectively accomplishes nothing, but town does it all the time. 2 people are searching for something to talk about early game. This is true of both town and scum. DrTennant is not a scumread and I think there are already a bunch of better lynch candidates out there:
Eccleston
PTroughton2
JPertwee
Actually rereading all those filters I am gonna unvote TheDavison. His response to my OMGUS looks marginally genuine: On May 30 2013 03:21 TheDavison wrote:+ Show Spoiler +That is indeed my first post, I have been absent from the thread until now. Upon reading the thread I found you scummy. Instead of doing anything to refute that you have instead reinforced my belief that you are an alien monster who must be purged by our security forces. ##unvote
JPertwee might be a too scummy to be scum scenario. He is overly agreeable, wishy washy, and constantly asking people to expand on things they've said rather than contribute his own original thought. Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 11:20 Hurndall3 wrote:
##unvote
##vote DrT
k I think I can sheep this DrT shit now that I read the case thoroughly.
these are the points that convinced me to sheep.
1 DrT's overdefense
2 unnatural calmness
3 repeated appeal that scum is among the inactives
4 one dimensional scumreads Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 19:25 Eccleston wrote:On May 31 2013 11:20 Hurndall3 wrote:
##unvote
##vote DrT
k I think I can sheep this DrT shit now that I read the case thoroughly.
these are the points that convinced me to sheep.
1 DrT's overdefense
2 unnatural calmness
3 repeated appeal that scum is among the inactives
4 one dimensional scumreads Can you explain to me why you think that these points are exclusive to a scum mindset? For example, point three could be explained from a town perspective too; if DrT is a townie being tunneled, trying to shift the attention toward the lurkers is a perfectly valid thing to do if he thinks that the mafia are lurking. Before, you dismissed his "overdefense", as brought up by MSmith1 here (it's point two in his post), saying that "2 people are searching for something to talk about early game. This is true of both town and scum." What made you change your mind? What Eccleston was pointing out is a really good point. H3 used the same point first in defense of DrT, and then as a reason to join his lynch as the 7th vote, showing in both cases fake reasons to do what he had to do in that situation. ##Vote Hurndall3Other than that, he's a guy who plays the dumb card to look like a bad townie, and Tom has been adamantly unaware of his disruptive play despite showing such fervor when it came down to lynching a guy for roleplaying.. I think the remaining scum is H3 + Tom, I have some more points against Tom up my sleeve but I want to lynch H3 first and see what Tom has to say to it. I have been waiting for 30 minutes for an answer to his ignorance regarding H3 and I think I know the reason he's taking so long.
On June 07 2013 02:45 SMcCoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 02:35 A McGann wrote:On June 07 2013 02:23 SMcCoy wrote:
McGann, I am negatively surprised by your approach to this, I have yet to see your arguments for Davis being scum, weighed against the arguments for him being town, which were brought up during D2 before people switched to JP. These are the reasons you used to discount Davison: On June 03 2013 06:05 SMcCoy wrote:If we don't lynch JP the only guy I'll vote today will be HartnellWill, I've grown doubts about Davis cause of this post: On May 30 2013 23:54 TheDavison wrote:
Doc, don't you feel bad for accussing someone of "maybe not reading the thread" when you yourself are clearly not reading the thread. You 'could kill him' someone else 'has a point' you couldn't be less committal if you tried.
Baker, you are right. DocT is one scummy mother fucker. This was right after DrT jumped onto the Trout wagon. If Davison is his scumbuddy, why would he try to disrupt the only way for DrT to save himself? Also, I think this post is really townie, although I don't agree with his conclusion since HW also made clear he would switch onto Trout: On June 02 2013 04:51 TheDavison wrote:
Actually this is interesting, there was a time on page 7-8 where Trout was leading in votes four to three by my count. It was at that time when HWill came in and voted DrT bringing him to four as well. While I was feeling bad on the Hwill voting I really like his timing. I think a scum coming into the thread at that time would try to push the trout lynch and, with a few reasoned arguments could probably actually sway people.
Feeling better about Hwill after that read. I'd suggest everyone go look at page 7 and 8 actually. No Davis lynch please. I think we have a false positive here. If that first quote is so damn townie, where's the vote. No vote, no pressure. Saying one thing (calling DrT scummy) while voting H3, and then proceeding to vote Tom later in the day is scummy. Not town. Scum. The second quote is a scum doling out a town read, that's easy for scum to do. Vote or not, Trout just went up to 4 votes when he wrote that. What intention could Davis have had with that post if he's scum? That wagon was DrT's last chance and there was JP, a townie, pushing it, so they should have had some hope for a while. Painting your scumbuddy's only way of escape red isn't exactly a good strat. H3 was among the last to jump onto the wagon with a reasoning he used previously to defend DrT. THAT's scummy, and that's the reason H3 has to die today. Else he will keep being useless all game long and you won't do anything about it -> gg town, you left alive the only dude who openly played scummy cause he played too scummy to be scum.
ill read this and think about it
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Now can we pls pls pls pls pls lynch eccleston day 4?
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Thats so fuckn scummy
U just participated in a mislynch. And there is no remorse. Straight onto next guy.
Where is reviewing where things went wrong. Now two days in a row...
DIsgusting.
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On June 07 2013 11:27 HartnellWill wrote:
Now can we pls pls pls pls pls lynch eccleston day 4?
no!
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at least my profiling thing was correct. Tom's behavior was consistent with that of a certain type of townie, but I'm just not confident enough at the moment.
The game is getting simpler though, and we're still not in massive trouble.
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I give up.
3 people don't care about making themselves look townie, and when I ask to lynch one of them instead of Tom, no one responds.
I am in for the Eccleston lynch just for the fact that he writes something like that post-lynch.
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Doesn't surprise me, whatever you are, you play for scum.
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I don't think we need to stress out too much. Sorry for my inactivity during the last day. But honestly, it's going to be 5v2 tomorrow, if my count is right. and we're going to have at least 2 very likely townies in that 7 player mix (me, mcgann, mccoy).
So even with a random lynch, assuming our town reads are correct, we have a 40% chance of hitting scum.
So whatever. We'll figure this out.
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EPT
