Newbie Mini Mafia XLII

On June 02 2013 11:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Assholes get shitty girls. That's why they're called assholes.

On June 03 2013 23:30 marvellosity wrote:


you're not charming, cupcake x

On June 04 2013 00:55 Palmar wrote:


Charm is kinda universal...

On June 04 2013 10:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
HOLY SHIT BH YOU HAVE A BATTLECRUISER NAO

On June 06 2013 04:51 Skanjab1s wrote:
VTK?

On June 06 2013 11:44 Spicydinosaur wrote:


I disagree with this. I would rather have a no lynch than to lynch someone i think is a lurking town. We should only be lynching scum, not bad town. I don't see how lynching a townie lurker is more productive. If you think vote for someone because you think he's a lurking scum... fine, but a lurking town vote doesn't help

On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:


I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.

On June 06 2013 12:04 Xzavier wrote:


Okay, i should refresh the page before i post.

Vloski thats the most suspicious thing iv seen so far.

There are atleast 3 types of townies:

Useful ones who create content
Inactive ones who do nothing to help prevent impending doom
Counterproductive ones who spam the thread then bandwagon votes

Useful ones win the game, inactive ones dont. Their is a difference between townies.

However you dont need to post all the time or even often, Quality over Quantity, but if your posting little and their is no new information to gain from it, that is pretty scummy.

If your posting little and when you do post its with an ironclad case (which was the other way of playing this game that i was considering) Is also acceptable, as this doesnt make you a high profile target for the mafia, and benefits the town.

On June 06 2013 12:56 Xzavier wrote:
##vote:iVlosk!
Ill take this vote back when you defend yourself with logic over brofists

On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?
I think that what you're doing is antagonistic. I think that, if you were townie, you'd voice concern about these weak FOS's, try to correct them, and develop reads on us based on that. You didn't correct them....You're asking for votes on you.
That's confusing, and not wise no matter the case.
You wouldn't be poking the fire if you were town, and scum wants to poke the fire. Or at least, you wouldn't have motivation to poke the fire as town, but you would as scum.
If mafia want to sow confusion, why are you doing something I think is scum-like, if you are town?
Since I feel confused, I'm feeling even more of a scum read on you, so my vote rests.

On June 06 2013 13:01 Umasi wrote:

Just explain why you think what you do, why you made a preemptive excuse, and why you like your brofists. Liking brofists is BAD. Brofists are emotional. We, as town, do not want emotional. We want thought and logic.

On June 06 2013 12:40 Firere345 wrote:


Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction.

On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?

On June 06 2013 13:09 Xzavier wrote:
You still havnt given a pro-town motivation for defending lurkers. and imo there isnt one. lurking hurts the town. says so in every guide iv read.

On June 06 2013 13:11 Umasi wrote:

First of all, thanks for saying something other than brofists as a response.
Second, your second underline: I'll make this clear.
Scum want to sow confusion and get emotional. I think brofists is an emotional term. Scum want to sow confusion, and you did not do something to figure things out, you, as I said, "poked the fire". Don't try to say that's not what scum want to do, that's the entire POINT of what scum wants to do. I'm not sure you're scum, but I think you've a better chance of flipping scum than anyone else here at this point.

And I still think you were trying to excuse yourself for future scumminess, which I dislike.

On June 06 2013 13:19 Onegu wrote:


Haha this actually makes sense. It doesnt seem he is pro town or pro mafia. But if he is mafia I am confused so he did his job well...

On June 06 2013 13:22 Umasi wrote:
You're right, brofists was not a term you coined. You ran with it though.
Even aside from brofists, I think that telling us to vote you is stupid. Scum? maybe! stupid? yes!
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE VOTED.
I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A JESTER
if you want us to put our money where our mouth is, and we are, and you aren't responding to our "money", then what are we supposed to think? I'm going to back up and reread everything in this exchange to make sure I'm not overlooking something, but my feeling on you keeps growing scummier, just because of the tone of your responses.
There is a possibility I'm just awful! or overlooking something! so I'll go reread.

I do not think that talking about lurkers is important with iV, just what has resulted from it.

On June 06 2013 13:25 fferyllt wrote:

The hell I am. I'm saying I am leaning town on you, brah.

On June 06 2013 13:33 Xzavier wrote:
Why wouldnt you want the town to trust you?? Or figure you out. only blue roles & mafia have something to hide?

On June 06 2013 13:36 fferyllt wrote:
You know who wants town to trust them? Scum, that's who.

On June 06 2013 13:38 Xzavier wrote:
Then your saying you dont care if we waste precious votes that could b used to lynch scum. this makes no sense. thats the scummiest thing iv seen again. your gonna get lynched if you keep this up.

On June 06 2013 13:41 Xzavier wrote:

Everybody wants trust. thats how you win. Read the flipside of that sentance: who DOESNT want town to trust them? Nobody.

On June 06 2013 13:47 Umasi wrote:
Onegu: Four posts. I can't make a read on this, but I lean town gut-wise
tE_: no-posts, null
Firere: I agree, it seems too easy. not that it can't be easy. slightly-town null
Stimm: null, no post
Ffer: waiting to see post, slightly town atm
Spicy: I agree with what he said game-theory wise, but that tells me nothing -null
Gotard:no post, null
Xzavier: I agree with what he's said, and lean straight town
Yavanna: Hasn't said much. Laughed at my stupid cat joke, tells me nothing. null
umasi: towniest motherfucker
Skan: no posts, null
iV: Leaning heavy scum, but harbor doubts. can't rationalize anything he does as town, but I can't rationalize what he's doing as scum indicative either, just scummier LEANING.
LoneMeow: one post, who gives a shit, null.

Conclusion: GET MORE PEOPLE TO FUCKING POST

On June 06 2013 13:49 Xzavier wrote:

This actually makes sense. if i think about it like that then its a pro-town and pro-mafia motive. more likely pro-town cuz mafia would be scared shitless. this convinced me. You sir, are town and a buddie. ( why would mafia want to stop this banter)

On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read.

On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote:
My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates.
I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though.

On June 06 2013 13:59 fferyllt wrote:

If he'd diffused it, then I probably wouldn't have any town reads in my hip pocket right now. And I'd be suspicious as fuck of him for trying to smooth things over.

On June 06 2013 14:03 fferyllt wrote:
I'm not a guy.

On June 06 2013 14:00 Xzavier wrote:

Scared shitlesd to Post that much early and draw THAT much attention.

On June 06 2013 14:11 iVLosK! wrote:
Umasi, I told you that your shitty list of reads were shitty. A response to that would be nice so we can make sure you don't disappoint me in the future.

On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote:
My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates.
I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though.

On June 06 2013 14:41 Umasi wrote:
Yeah, I'm afraid to go it alone. I want to win, and I'm not confident in myself, so other people expressing doubt like that makes me feel more uneasy. I guess I have shitty reading abilities, but I'm actively trying to improve it. I'm not mindlessly tunneling you, I feel like I've tried to read what you had to say in a pro-town light, but I don't see why you are saying what you're saying.
And my list may have been shitty. If so, ignore it and move on. If you don't ignore it, and it helps you achieve some understanding of the game, then it wasn't useless! If it confuses you, it was bad!
So was it bad, null, or good.
Did it confuse you, did you ignore it, or did it help you understand the game.

Everything you say pisses me off, and that makes me think you're mafia. It's possible you're town!
There's always a possibility! It's a possibility my role pm lied!
And keeping my options open is important, because someone could come and make a convincing case you are town. I'm not going to just continue tunneling you, that's STUPID.
If there is a better lynch than you, I will HAPPILY VOTE IT. At this point, I think you are the best lynch, and have the highest chance of flipping mafia, according to my shit reading abilities.

On June 06 2013 14:44 Umasi wrote:

It makes me feel annoyed that you take a cocky self assured attitude, but I can't OUTWARDLY TELL WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME.
And before you say it's because I'm bad that I can't tell why you're better, I want you to explain it somehow. Hold my hand. If you're town, get along with a townie and hold my hand along this process.
Show me your fucking godlike abilities at mafia, and I'll happily sheep, if I think it's how we will win.

Why does my badness and lack of player reading ability mean that you should lynch me?

On June 06 2013 15:08 Onegu wrote:
I think it is apperant that ivlosk is town at this point. I dont uderstand why you keep saying he is scum. I also dont get why making a list of observations is useful at this point when over half of the people havent posted yet.

On June 06 2013 15:28 Umasi wrote:
I'll operate under the assumption that you're town, because everyone else thinks so, and it seems like more will get done this way.
oh, and before you poke fun at me for pulling off of you, let me offer this preemptive rebuttal (see the irony?)
shut up and stop using stupid wordplay. fun as it is for you, it may be confusing for other people (specifically me) and that's bad.

##UNVOTE iVLosK!

On June 06 2013 20:19 Skanjab1s wrote:


I'm the finger down your spine when all the lights are out. I'm the name on all the men's room walls. When I pout, the whole world tries to make me smile. And everyone always wants to know, who... is... that girl?

Okay guys, listen up. I can read vloski like a Dr Seuss book. And he is without a doubt town. I've like, never been wrong about him.

So, ##vote: Spicydinosaur

For all his posts being about game theory (lynching lurkers, etc.) and none of them having any intention of finding scum.

On June 06 2013 21:25 Skanjab1s wrote:


That was the first game ever, after that I got a taste for VTK and my tastebuds dont lie.

On June 06 2013 21:38 Spicydinosaur wrote:

@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.

On June 06 2013 21:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:


Town read because it would be an incredibly stupid move if he were mafia. His reason for voting me is extremely weak and given his position of having 0 posts before this... it draws too much attention to him. He's not trying to blend in with the crowd and feels more akin to a new townie player than anything else.

On June 06 2013 21:53 Skanjab1s wrote:



Umasi comes across as a townie to me, albeit one that was gotten to by ivloski.

On June 06 2013 16:19 Umasi wrote:
That's the thing, he felt so abrasive it was hard for him to be scum, but backing down and being like "he's probably town" is annoying, because I feel like he'll bring it up again pointlessly, merely to spite me. And my gut instinct then will be to say "he's mafia!!!!" which is WRONG. And it's BAD for him to do that.
regardless.
The first thing was his preemptive reasoning, which I took as an excuse, and still kind of do. there's nothing for him to be afraid of if he's town, so it's kinda scummy! Might as well talk about it.
When he comes back and tells us to vote on him, I couldn't think of any possible fucking reason other than "he's stirring the pot, and that's scummy." Apparently, it was to generate discussion, but I still don't know why he'd go back and bring it up again in the manner that he did. It felt like he was just drilling it in that he wasn't giving an excuse (and I still think that he FUCKING WAS, because it gives him reasoning to fall back on, and quickly assuages peoples doubts of him, but that doesn't make him mafia).
When Xzav pulled off of him, I don't know why he kept poking me to go at him. That's stupid! Why would he want me to stay on him? That's....bad. It means my vote is on the wrong person. This confused me.
And threatening to lynch me if my list of reads was unsatisfactory is stupid if he's done fuck all anyway.


What really makes me feel he's town though is that he says he's abrasive for shits and giggles, because it fits in with the way he'd been playing, because he never felt antagonistic, just trolly, which isn't necessarily scum.

I think that made sense.

Also, iV, me wasting my vote isn't your FAULT, but it sure as shit is your CONCERN, because you want scum lynched.

On June 06 2013 15:51 Umasi wrote:

I am not meaning to be emotional, what I realized is that he was stirring me up, and that's what I was referring to. For a while I felt like he was egging me, and then I realized he was DEFINITELY egging me..
but I came to the conclusion that doesn't make him mafia or town, it just makes him annoying and antagonistic.
I was wrong when I thought he started the use of the word brofists, but I do not like how he ran with it. It still annoys me, because it's nothing but misdirecting to me
and the main reason I had for thinking he was scum, was his stupid antagonism.
That's just me being a whiny emotional bitch.
The reason I've gone afk for about an hour at a time is I've been trying to cool my head, and then I get back and he posts some shit about me drowning in my own mediocrity and I think "ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS"
So although I'd still like to lynch him, god knows I'd like to lynch him, out of spite, I've decided it's a bad idea. I originally pressured him on that stupid and inconsequential point (preemptive excuses) because I wanted to get discussion rolling, and I got overly emotional, in the face of him.
I'm rambling, it's late, but I'm not tired. so I'll try to consolidate if anything is confusing.

On June 06 2013 13:59 iVLosK! wrote:

"pulling out"
teeheehee.

Oh yeah? Well as soon as that random OMGUSer shows up, Im gonna take my vote of him and put it on you. The accumulated filth from all your badness and lack of player reading ability will foam up about your waist and you will look up and shout "Save me!" ... and I'll whisper "No."

How does that make you feel?

On June 06 2013 21:55 Onegu wrote:
The strongest read I have is on iVlosk as town t this point, but a wish he would curse less.

On June 06 2013 10:45 Umasi wrote:
hey everyone, I have no idea how to get a game started. Let's a gogo?
Should I put a vote on someone? Carefully analyzed?
##VOTE LoneMeow

On June 07 2013 03:43 Skanjab1s wrote:


I'd think that a newbie town would have read the rules quite carefully and would know that kind of thing, so added with his sheeping onto iV for a really terrible reason, I'm leaning scum. I do want to hear more from him though.

On June 08 2013 00:48 Umasi wrote:
Onegu, I found what iV was doing scummy and it turned out he was just being an asshole.

On June 08 2013 01:03 Spicydinosaur wrote:


Skanjab is not going to be lynched today barring some huge slip on his part. Right now the votes are between you and Firere345. If you don't want to get lynch you should make a miraculous case and get your vote on Firere345.

On June 08 2013 01:03 Skanjab1s wrote:
I'm getting worried about this Gotard lynch because most of my scummier reads are voting him, and my townier reads are voting Firere (barring iV).

On June 08 2013 01:42 fferyllt wrote:
Hey iVL I'd like to hear your thoughts about Yavannah. You're both in my neverlynch pile and you are game-savvy so you're a player I'd be willing to test my reads with.

On June 08 2013 01:55 Onegu wrote:
Just so you guys know I will be sleeping in the next 2 hours. Iv can you give a good reason for conforming to votes for your last 2 votes please. I would like to see if firere comes back and offers some more reasoning and defense. Xzav and yavannah what are your thoughts on skan, firere, and umasi?

On June 07 2013 13:55 iVLosK! wrote:
If I could lynch 3 people in order right now:

Gotard
Umasi
That guy whose name is like frefre or something. I dunno.

On June 08 2013 02:07 fferyllt wrote:

Maybe.

I thought the questions lacked followt hrough, but that could be newb too.

I pointed out the futility of indicating votes are for pressure purposes when SpicyDinosaur (I think that's who...not going to check) posted something similar about pressuring lurkers quite early in the game, though. Maybe that comment would stand out as something not to do to newb scum more than to newb town.

Noted, and thanks.

On June 08 2013 02:12 Xzavier wrote:
also i think fferyllt is 100% town. biggest town read by far. Just gonna put that here somewhere. He has explained actions, clarified everything for people. generally done a shit-ton of work to make this a much better pro-town environment.

On June 08 2013 02:47 fferyllt wrote:

Remind me to revisit this in the postgame discussion if I don't bring it up.

On June 08 2013 03:41 fferyllt wrote:
knock yourself out. Skanjab gave a good enough short answer.

On June 08 2013 13:44 Onegu wrote:


Yeah I got that also, but I didnt really get a gotard being scum feeling in the first place, but I had a null feel on fire also so I dont know where that leaves me. I would like lonemeow to respond some more before placing a strong read on him. I just dont like how skan just refused to give good answers to me. I still have a scum read on umasi at this point, but mybe my bandwagon thing without good reason is just off base.

On June 09 2013 11:24 Spicydinosaur wrote:
iVLosK! i just want to say I love your D1 play style.

On June 09 2013 11:54 Skanjab1s wrote:
Unfortunately his D2 playstyle is to spam the thread with NFL gifs

On June 10 2013 01:56 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Ok caught up on the reading and here are some thoughts.

1. I want to see the complete mason logs between skanjab1 and iVLosK! as a partial reveal just feels a bit suspicious.

2. (speculation) Skan was probably killed because scum feared that the more vocal townies were protected at night. Or Vlosk is uber pro scum and had me fooled (hope not).

3. We only had 1 night kill so there is less likely a chance of an sk. If a jailor was on someone last night I would say keep up the roleblock just to be safe.

4. No vigi kill can mean a few things... either we don't have a vig, the vig didn't want to shoot, or they are unable to shoot till night 2.

5. Yavanna needs to speak up a lot today and the fact she didn't vote is quite troubling (as is the fact she is still alive).

6. As for lone... I want to see more of his posts before I throw a vote on him. Also Lone... who are your scum reads atm.

On June 10 2013 13:32 fferyllt wrote:
The title says "ABRIDGED" which usually means parts were left out.

On June 10 2013 13:45 Onegu wrote:
Ebwop

When I mean edited I mean more than leaveing posts out...

On June 10 2013 13:29 Onegu wrote:
Could this be edited looks like that would takemsome time to do and I dont think it was at this point but want to ask the question anyway.

On June 10 2013 15:30 Onegu wrote:


You are getting way to upset over this. I never asked what was left out, I only asked if it was possible. Your reaction to the question does make me wonder what was left out though.

On June 10 2013 21:45 Onegu wrote:


But you answered my question when you said it was possible, thats all I really wqnted to know. This is my first game of mafia.

On June 08 2013 22:51 iVLosK! wrote:
Xzavier, you said we could be friends and then you tried to save the now dead scum.

I don't know if we can be friends anymore.

On June 10 2013 02:34 Xzavier wrote:


Usami/Lonemeow
yavanna isnt even on my radar as im expecting her to be modkilled
Gotard probably is town.


I know this seems super generic. but im off to work. ill explain when i get home in 5ish hours i think

On June 09 2013 05:44 Xzavier wrote:


I agree with this. scum were probably on him.
If i was scum tho i wouldnt want to do the indecisive last minute vote switching. That raises too many questions that a scum wouldnt want to answer. but lonemeow and umasi are really high on my scum list.

On June 10 2013 22:01 LoneMeow wrote:
We really need more activity here or scum will get an easy win. So let's talk about lynches. Who are your top reads right now, iVLosK!?

On June 11 2013 06:27 Umasi wrote:
Also, what do you mean by "circling the wagons"
I pretty fucking clearly laid out why I want to lynch Lonemeow, and then Yavanna afterward.
I didn't ask town to lynch me, I told them they can feel fucking free to do so. Because it is their choice, however they choose to waste it.
And if I did ask town to lynch me, whoops! I must have forgotten something I'd said!
oh darn.
I've been so unbelievably hypocritical and self contradictory this game it wouldn't even matter.

On June 11 2013 11:16 fferyllt wrote:
SK could have withheld the kill last night, I guess. I've been thinking scum only since the daybreak post.

On June 11 2013 12:10 Xzavier wrote:
i would say have investigative roles check Stimaddict

He called for a vigi shot on a dead person.

his day1 vote was a VT and he said he was going to vote for said VT every night until he was dead.

That warrents investigation lol

On June 11 2013 13:46 fferyllt wrote:
Any time I read "No scum ever..." I add it to my list of things to do as scum. :D

On June 11 2013 18:17 Onegu wrote:
IvLosK after day 2 actions what are your thoughts on umasi, xzavier, and stimaddict? Since night has started you havent really posted much thoughtful insights.

On June 12 2013 10:47 Umasi wrote:


Did you just backstep here, or am I missing something, because it looks like you tried justifying my rant, then you immediately questioned it.
And ffer was like "there are other possibilities" sure. why does town even care about the serial killer right now when it's not even confirmed?
We KNOW there is a third mafia, so ignore the SK
that's all.

On June 12 2013 11:13 Spicydinosaur wrote:


Did it say you were attacked or just roleblocked/jailed?

On June 12 2013 11:17 Onegu wrote:


Lol but did it just say roleblocked? Or jailed?

On June 12 2013 11:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:


I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this.

On June 12 2013 11:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:


2 separate messages. First from Sylencia saying i was jail kept. Second from Acrofales saying that just in case I didn't know, I was roleblocked.

On June 12 2013 11:25 fferyllt wrote:
I dunno.

You were blocked and protected evidently. You say your message was different but jesus christ it would be dumb to lie about something like that.

On June 12 2013 11:28 fferyllt wrote:

But it was a role block, not a jail keep message?

On June 12 2013 09:00 ObviousOne wrote:

Day 3

On June 12 2013 11:43 Onegu wrote:



Well there are other possibilities such as scum afk or target was a vet. But what you say is the most likely option.

On June 13 2013 07:08 fferyllt wrote:
iV you're giving me hives. You've switched from StimAddict to Umasi without explaining what makes Stim less likely to be scum today than yesterday. And you've suggested a partially unprioritized lynch list.

On June 13 2013 15:27 fferyllt wrote:
Case for iV being scum (some of these may be null)

- argued against the yavanna case
- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch
- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1
- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi
- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer
- Has floated a few names on day 3 and apparently has no plans to POE his list of 4 before wagonning.
- Is not leading, despite being perceived as town by p much all.
- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility.
- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*

Case against iV being scum

- Day 1 gambit got the game rolling in a good direction
- Good protown general advice on stuff not to do in mafia.
- Skanjab read him as town, masoned him, self-proclaimed track record of reading him correctly**

* could be a style thing. If I were JK'd I'd make sure that possibility was kept in mind.
** strongest reason to think he's town IMO.


I'm still working on my Onego case.

- argued against the yavanna case

- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch

- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1

- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi

- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer

- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility.

- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*

On June 13 2013 10:34 Umasi wrote:
okay onegu, I will try to explain why. This is literally the best I can do, to tell you why I'm town
I'm not responding to your posts, I'm responding to...I don't know what I'm responding to.
But rationalize this question:
two things, actually:


A: If I am scum, why have I drawn so much attention to myself, and

B: Why have I not been lynched yet.

What about me is towny enough that people are not voting me?

On June 13 2013 11:07 fferyllt wrote:
As scum, I would not hesitate to bus a scum partner. If I thought the wagon was going to go through, I would get on it before it was a foregone conclusion.

I have literally done this minutes before the town pile-on started and looked like I was in front and leading the way. More than once.

If I were scum, I most likelly would have been on the Firere wagon. I would have gotten on it a little bit later than when I did, but early enough not to look like I"d given up on the wagon fading away.

This stuff about nobody bussing Firere is not surefire.

Not

at

all

On June 13 2013 22:14 Spicydinosaur wrote:


What are you basing this off of? As far as we know there is only 1 scum left so he has to carry it out the kill himself. Hypothetically if u were last scum and jailed, your kill will not go through.

On June 13 2013 22:11 fferyllt wrote:
iV, based on your positions and opinons through night 2, who do you think would perceive you as the greatest danger to their win/survival?

On June 14 2013 03:53 Onegu wrote:
I still have serious doubts about umasi and xzavier, but not posting all the masoner chat, the no kill the second night is really suspious.

On June 14 2013 05:42 Xzavier wrote:
im 100% confident that if Onegu doesnt flip scum, its iV. and well fucking played iV. your a god damn mad genious, playing your "pro card" flaunting your dick all over the place, and if you do somehow manage to lynch me. id like everybody to read this post and realize that he is scum. hell ill make a full case on him right before the lynch if it looks like im going to die. so please, vote for him tomorrow. no matter what todays vote is i believe iV is scum.

except i did express concern of him before.

people ignore half of what i post

On June 14 2013 09:28 fferyllt wrote:


One more time, iV. Please explain how you figure this.

On June 14 2013 09:32 fferyllt wrote:
Ok.

KP is an unsual piece of game mechanics where I hail from. I thought I might be missing something crucial in all this.

What are your thoughts on Stim's return to the game.

On June 14 2013 09:33 fferyllt wrote:
Also, how frequently do you play games with a fair percentage of newbs?

On June 14 2013 10:00 Xzavier wrote:
gg, im going to say this before i get lynched



IV IS FUCKING TOWN AS FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK.


LYNCH THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF HIM NOW!!!!!!


read his filter 100x until you see what i saw. unfortunately im too late to write a case.


i want town to win. even if i do die. so kill him. DO IT NOW

On June 14 2013 10:22 Umasi wrote:
are you even reading the thread iV

On June 14 2013 10:26 Umasi wrote:


....I'll ignore you tomorrow.
I swear though
if you make a SINGLE VOTE POST
in spite of CLEARLY WANTING TO BE OUT OF THE GAME
you will be making NO SENSE AND ATTRACTING A MISLYNCH.
be warned.

On June 14 2013 10:26 Umasi wrote:
iV, he already asked for a replacement earlier :3

On June 14 2013 12:10 fferyllt wrote:
why is it that we are talking about SKs?

On June 14 2013 19:55 Onegu wrote:
I dont understand why you guys keep calling me scummy without presenting a case just saying your gut is telling you I am scum, when there are better cases for iV, umasi, and even gotard.

I have presented multiple cases on umasi, gotard has had a decent case on him day one then he lurks alot, and iV has posted mostly fluff since night 1. I think night actions will go along way toward iV case. Like I said before my vote will be going on umasi when day starts again unless night actions point at iV, umasi is the last link in the day 1 and day 2 killings, day three also to some degree. If not for the jailkeeper posts I would have stayed on umasi anyway. Not sure why he called for the reveal doesnt make much since for him to do so as VT...

On June 14 2013 19:55 Onegu wrote:
I dont understand why you guys keep calling me scummy without presenting a case just saying your gut is telling you I am scum, when there are better cases for iV, umasi, and even gotard.

I have presented multiple cases on umasi, gotard has had a decent case on him day one then he lurks alot, and iV has posted mostly fluff since night 1. I think night actions will go along way toward iV case. Like I said before my vote will be going on umasi when day starts again unless night actions point at iV, umasi is the last link in the day 1 and day 2 killings, day three also to some degree. If not for the jailkeeper posts I would have stayed on umasi anyway. Not sure why he called for the reveal doesnt make much since for him to do so as VT...

On June 15 2013 08:04 fferyllt wrote:


It is not known if you were right on day 2.

On June 15 2013 10:01 Spicydinosaur wrote:
iV you roleblocked again?

On June 15 2013 11:30 Umasi wrote:


What makes Onegu townier to you?

Or if he isn't townier, why were you so ambiguous with your wording?
Be more transparent.

On June 16 2013 05:13 fferyllt wrote:


You think that Onegu was the kill target last night? Or that scum intentionally or unintentionally made no kill? Or something else?

On June 16 2013 07:14 fferyllt wrote:

TBH if it's not Onegu, I'm going to have a nervous breakdown trying to decide between you or Umasi.for final scum.

On June 16 2013 07:37 fferyllt wrote:


And what was Xzav?

On June 16 2013 08:20 fferyllt wrote:


I know. I still would like an answer to my question.