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iVLosK!
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 03 2013 14:25 GMT
#214
/in

There will be no mercy.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 03 2013 14:29 GMT
#215
On June 02 2013 11:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Assholes get shitty girls. That's why they're called assholes.

Wrong.

Us charming assholes do quite well.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 03 2013 14:40 GMT
#218
On June 03 2013 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 03 2013 23:29 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 02 2013 11:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Assholes get shitty girls. That's why they're called assholes.

Wrong.

Us charming assholes do quite well.


you're not charming, cupcake x

Not to you, youz aint even my type of bitch
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 03 2013 14:41 GMT
#219
Shit is full, when does it start?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 03 2013 15:43 GMT
#224
lol
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Djibouti545 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 16:22:50
June 03 2013 16:21 GMT
#227
On June 04 2013 00:55 Palmar wrote:
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On June 03 2013 23:40 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 03 2013 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
On June 03 2013 23:29 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 02 2013 11:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Assholes get shitty girls. That's why they're called assholes.

Wrong.

Us charming assholes do quite well.


you're not charming, cupcake x

Not to you, youz aint even my type of bitch


Charm is kinda universal...

Sir this is a conversation between Deebz and I. I understand that my charm drew you here and you also wish to speak with me, but interrupting is not an appropriate way to do it. If you like, we can talk over PM so as not to embarrass Deebz, whom you quite rudely cut out of the conversation.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 04 2013 03:31 GMT
#253
On June 04 2013 10:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
HOLY SHIT BH YOU HAVE A BATTLECRUISER NAO

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THAT NIGGA IS OPERATIONAL
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 05 2013 19:24 GMT
#273
I'm 'onna mercy kill these fools.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 00:16 GMT
#276
On June 06 2013 04:51 Skanjab1s wrote:
VTK?

Nah babe, you're thinking of the other devilishly handsome OMGUSer.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 02:00 GMT
#299
Who is the motherfucker who recognized me from OMGUS?

I will find you, mystery motherfucker.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 02:13 GMT
#302
Lynching lurkers isn't a strategy that I really like in a noobie game. What we'll find is that some people just signed up and fucked off, regardless of alignment. Or people who vastly underestimated the amount of time/effort they'd need to put in.

Having said that, I won't be nailed down and if I feel a lurker is scum I'll vote them in a second and you all will be like "Aww Vlosk said he doesn't like lynching lurkers in noob games!"
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#304
I find using your phone in the car, scummy.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#305
EBWOP: Shouldn't be a comma there.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 02:43 GMT
#310
##Vote: Skanjab1s

Until such time that he reveals from where he recognizes my stunning play.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 02:45 GMT
#312
On June 06 2013 11:44 Spicydinosaur wrote:
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On June 06 2013 11:34 Xzavier wrote:

Also the reason im for lynching a lurker night one is even if it is a noobie who realized they didnt have the time for it, then they arnt ever gonna be useful for us in this game, so it still would be more productive than a No-lynch.


I disagree with this. I would rather have a no lynch than to lynch someone i think is a lurking town. We should only be lynching scum, not bad town. I don't see how lynching a townie lurker is more productive. If you think vote for someone because you think he's a lurking scum... fine, but a lurking town vote doesn't help

I agree with this.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 02:58 GMT
#313
A townie is still a townie and still counts towards the town count, regardless of how invested they are in the game.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 03:02 GMT
#315
Yes.

I come from a forum where there isn't the option to no-lynch.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 03:51 GMT
#326
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:
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On June 06 2013 11:13 iVLosK! wrote:
Lynching lurkers isn't a strategy that I really like in a noobie game. What we'll find is that some people just signed up and fucked off, regardless of alignment. Or people who vastly underestimated the amount of time/effort they'd need to put in.

Having said that, I won't be nailed down and if I feel a lurker is scum I'll vote them in a second and you all will be like "Aww Vlosk said he doesn't like lynching lurkers in noob games!"


I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.

This guy.

On June 06 2013 12:04 Xzavier wrote:
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A townie is still a townie and still counts towards the town count, regardless of how invested they are in the game.


Okay, i should refresh the page before i post.

Vloski thats the most suspicious thing iv seen so far.

There are atleast 3 types of townies:

Useful ones who create content
Inactive ones who do nothing to help prevent impending doom
Counterproductive ones who spam the thread then bandwagon votes

Useful ones win the game, inactive ones dont. Their is a difference between townies.

However you dont need to post all the time or even often, Quality over Quantity, but if your posting little and their is no new information to gain from it, that is pretty scummy.

If your posting little and when you do post its with an ironclad case (which was the other way of playing this game that i was considering) Is also acceptable, as this doesnt make you a high profile target for the mafia, and benefits the town.

And this guy.

Keep your weak sauce FOS's. Come at me with votes, brahs.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 03:58 GMT
#331
On June 06 2013 12:56 Xzavier wrote:
##vote:iVlosk!
Ill take this vote back when you defend yourself with logic over brofists

Keep it there, then. I like my brofists.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:05 GMT
#336
On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?
I think that what you're doing is antagonistic. I think that, if you were townie, you'd voice concern about these weak FOS's, try to correct them, and develop reads on us based on that. You didn't correct them....You're asking for votes on you.
That's confusing, and not wise no matter the case.
You wouldn't be poking the fire if you were town, and scum wants to poke the fire. Or at least, you wouldn't have motivation to poke the fire as town, but you would as scum.
If mafia want to sow confusion, why are you doing something I think is scum-like, if you are town?
Since I feel confused, I'm feeling even more of a scum read on you, so my vote rests.

First underline: Ask that other guy from OMGUS who my vote is on. I give literally zero fucks about your FOS's. In my original post where I "excused myself for future scumminess" or whatever, I was simply stating that I'll do what I want regardless of what you think is scummy. If I don't want to vote for a lurker, I won't. And if I feel like voting for a lurker, bet your fine ass that I will. Regardless of what I've said in the past.

Second underline: Maybe you should adjust what you think is "scum-like." I would suggest it, actually. If you and I are going to be friends. I would like to be friends.

Also "since I feel confused, you are therefore scum." is literally the dumbest thing that I have ever heard in my life. And I actually laughed quietly to myself upon reading it.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:06 GMT
#337
On June 06 2013 13:01 Umasi wrote:
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On June 06 2013 12:58 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:56 Xzavier wrote:
##vote:iVlosk!
Ill take this vote back when you defend yourself with logic over brofists

Keep it there, then. I like my brofists.

Just explain why you think what you do, why you made a preemptive excuse, and why you like your brofists. Liking brofists is BAD. Brofists are emotional. We, as town, do not want emotional. We want thought and logic.

See above.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#338
On June 06 2013 12:40 Firere345 wrote:
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On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:

I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.


Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction.

Gut feel, the Toss is scum.

I made it very clear that my vote was not a "lynch vote" by saying I would remove it when the player told me who he was.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#341
On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?

FOS's are weak and can be easily backed down from.

I like for my accusers to put their money where their mouth is.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:12 GMT
#343
On June 06 2013 13:09 Xzavier wrote:
You still havnt given a pro-town motivation for defending lurkers. and imo there isnt one. lurking hurts the town. says so in every guide iv read.

And sometimes lurkers are town and you end up using your lynch on a townie instead of finding scum. Says so in every logic I've read.

I didn't say "I'll never vote for a lurker." I said "This is a noob game, there are going to be lots of lurkers, I will use my own discretion regardless of activity levels."
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:16 GMT
#347
On June 06 2013 13:11 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:05 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?
I think that what you're doing is antagonistic. I think that, if you were townie, you'd voice concern about these weak FOS's, try to correct them, and develop reads on us based on that. You didn't correct them....You're asking for votes on you.
That's confusing, and not wise no matter the case.
You wouldn't be poking the fire if you were town, and scum wants to poke the fire. Or at least, you wouldn't have motivation to poke the fire as town, but you would as scum.
If mafia want to sow confusion, why are you doing something I think is scum-like, if you are town?
Since I feel confused, I'm feeling even more of a scum read on you, so my vote rests.

First underline: Ask that other guy from OMGUS who my vote is on. I give literally zero fucks about your FOS's. In my original post where I "excused myself for future scumminess" or whatever, I was simply stating that I'll do what I want regardless of what you think is scummy. If I don't want to vote for a lurker, I won't. And if I feel like voting for a lurker, bet your fine ass that I will. Regardless of what I've said in the past.

Second underline: Maybe you should adjust what you think is "scum-like." I would suggest it, actually. If you and I are going to be friends. I would like to be friends.

Also "since I feel confused, you are therefore scum." is literally the dumbest thing that I have ever heard in my life. And I actually laughed quietly to myself upon reading it.

First of all, thanks for saying something other than brofists as a response.
Second, your second underline: I'll make this clear.
Scum want to sow confusion and get emotional. I think brofists is an emotional term. Scum want to sow confusion, and you did not do something to figure things out, you, as I said, "poked the fire". Don't try to say that's not what scum want to do, that's the entire POINT of what scum wants to do. I'm not sure you're scum, but I think you've a better chance of flipping scum than anyone else here at this point.

And I still think you were trying to excuse yourself for future scumminess, which I dislike.

1. I wasn't the one who used the term brofists, I believe that was Xzavier.

2. I don't think my remarks were particularly confusing. I said, and bear with me, this must be the 4th time. "I don't like lynching lurkers in a noob game. But I will lynch the fuck out of some lurkers if I feel like they're scum." And then I said "I don't really care if you think this is scummy." The fact that you find that confusing really isn't my fault.

3. Then we can't be friends then.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:18 GMT
#348
Where the fuck is my OMGUS friend?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:22 GMT
#351
On June 06 2013 13:19 Onegu wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:12 Xzavier wrote:
I was at first to. but the more he posts the less pro-town he gets. he could b the fucking SK for all i know.


Haha this actually makes sense. It doesnt seem he is pro town or pro mafia. But if he is mafia I am confused so he did his job well...

Yes... Yes. I am now in possession of the majority of votes. Everything is going exactly according to my nefarious plan.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:23 GMT
#356
fferyllt and Onegu. You guys are saying you think Im scum but your votes aren't on me. I don't like that shit, throw 'em on.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:26 GMT
#358
On June 06 2013 13:22 Umasi wrote:
You're right, brofists was not a term you coined. You ran with it though.
Even aside from brofists, I think that telling us to vote you is stupid. Scum? maybe! stupid? yes!
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE VOTED.
I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A JESTER
if you want us to put our money where our mouth is, and we are, and you aren't responding to our "money", then what are we supposed to think? I'm going to back up and reread everything in this exchange to make sure I'm not overlooking something, but my feeling on you keeps growing scummier, just because of the tone of your responses.
There is a possibility I'm just awful! or overlooking something! so I'll go reread.

I do not think that talking about lurkers is important with iV, just what has resulted from it.

1. No but you've responded to me. Which is all I need, silly billy.

2. This is a distinct possibility.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:28 GMT
#360
On June 06 2013 13:25 fferyllt wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:23 iVLosK! wrote:
fferyllt and Onegu. You guys are saying you think Im scum but your votes aren't on me. I don't like that shit, throw 'em on.

The hell I am. I'm saying I am leaning town on you, brah.

Aight denn, brah. Welcome to the smart kids club. Let's talk about smart kid things while these punks try to figure me out. (Pro tip: You can't.)
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:34 GMT
#364
On June 06 2013 13:33 Xzavier wrote:
Why wouldnt you want the town to trust you?? Or figure you out. only blue roles & mafia have something to hide?

"Let them hate me, so long as they fear me."

As long as you guys don't lynch me, you can throw as many votes on me as you like.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:38 GMT
#370
On June 06 2013 13:36 fferyllt wrote:
You know who wants town to trust them? Scum, that's who.

You are right, to a degree. You're in the smart kids club, so we can talk about this. There is always value in establishing your innocence, if you're town.

Though sometimes, a little pressure has it's uses.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:40 GMT
#373
On June 06 2013 13:38 Xzavier wrote:
Then your saying you dont care if we waste precious votes that could b used to lynch scum. this makes no sense. thats the scummiest thing iv seen again. your gonna get lynched if you keep this up.

Damn, twice in one night? I'm on a roll.


That or you're easily impressed. But I'd prefer to believe the former.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:44 GMT
#377
On June 06 2013 13:41 Xzavier wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:36 fferyllt wrote:
You know who wants town to trust them? Scum, that's who.

Everybody wants trust. thats how you win. Read the flipside of that sentance: who DOESNT want town to trust them? Nobody.

*raises hand*

Like I said, I give 273 degress Kelvin shits if you trust me.

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:48 GMT
#380
On June 06 2013 13:47 Umasi wrote:
Onegu: Four posts. I can't make a read on this, but I lean town gut-wise
tE_: no-posts, null
Firere: I agree, it seems too easy. not that it can't be easy. slightly-town null
Stimm: null, no post
Ffer: waiting to see post, slightly town atm
Spicy: I agree with what he said game-theory wise, but that tells me nothing -null
Gotard:no post, null
Xzavier: I agree with what he's said, and lean straight town
Yavanna: Hasn't said much. Laughed at my stupid cat joke, tells me nothing. null
umasi: towniest motherfucker
Skan: no posts, null
iV: Leaning heavy scum, but harbor doubts. can't rationalize anything he does as town, but I can't rationalize what he's doing as scum indicative either, just scummier LEANING.
LoneMeow: one post, who gives a shit, null.

Conclusion: GET MORE PEOPLE TO FUCKING POST

I was wondering when someone would make a shitty list post.

Duely fucking noted, sir.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:51 GMT
#384
On June 06 2013 13:49 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

This actually makes sense. if i think about it like that then its a pro-town and pro-mafia motive. more likely pro-town cuz mafia would be scared shitless. this convinced me. You sir, are town and a buddie. ( why would mafia want to stop this banter)

Scared shitless? I have no fear, regardless of alignment. I fart in the face of death.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:53 GMT
#385
On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read.

Wait for it...





Wait for it...

On June 06 2013 13:50 Xzavier wrote:
##unvote iVosk!

Huh, I guess he trusts me. And I did it all without making some shitty "plan" that I'm not going to follow anyway. Go figure.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:59 GMT
#390
On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote:
My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates.
I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though.

"pulling out"
teeheehee.

Oh yeah? Well as soon as that random OMGUSer shows up, Im gonna take my vote of him and put it on you. The accumulated filth from all your badness and lack of player reading ability will foam up about your waist and you will look up and shout "Save me!" ... and I'll whisper "No."

How does that make you feel?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:03 GMT
#392
On June 06 2013 13:59 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:53 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

I agree that iV provoking votes is good, I disagree that it's town on town, assuming iV is included in the town.
it's giving us stuff to think about, but is it the correct stuff to think about? It wouldn't have taken much to settle the at the beginning minor accusation. If he did diffuse it, town could be doing OTHER productive things.
I wish he'd diffused it, I really do. I think everyone else getting involved in the discussion around iV is town except for iV, who hasn't actually given me a fucking reason to think he's town.

If he'd diffused it, then I probably wouldn't have any town reads in my hip pocket right now. And I'd be suspicious as fuck of him for trying to smooth things over.

This guy gets a fucking gold star. Keeping up with me (almost) every step of the way.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:04 GMT
#394
On June 06 2013 14:03 fferyllt wrote:
I'm not a guy.

This non-gender-specific being gets a gold star. Gold star for you, non-gender-specific being!
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:09 GMT
#396
On June 06 2013 14:00 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:51 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:49 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

This actually makes sense. if i think about it like that then its a pro-town and pro-mafia motive. more likely pro-town cuz mafia would be scared shitless. this convinced me. You sir, are town and a buddie. ( why would mafia want to stop this banter)

Scared shitless? I have no fear, regardless of alignment. I fart in the face of death.

Scared shitlesd to Post that much early and draw THAT much attention.

I'm just an attention whore. I don't like it when you talk about that bitch Rachel. I should be what's on your mind.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:11 GMT
#397
Umasi, I told you that your shitty list of reads were shitty. A response to that would be nice so we can make sure you don't disappoint me in the future.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:14 GMT
#398
On June 06 2013 14:11 iVLosK! wrote:
Umasi, I told you that your shitty list of reads were shitty. A response to that would be nice so we can make sure you don't disappoint me in the future.

I don't deal with disappointment well, sometimes it results in... Lynchings.

Anyways, that's all for me tonight, folks. Work in the morning, usually work 9-10 hours, should be on around 8ish CST.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:17 GMT
#400
On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote:
My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates.
I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though.

This interests me, if you think I'm scum, say you think I'm scum. Don't consider other lynches "In light of Xzav pulling out." Why does Xzav have any impact on who you think is scum?

Afraid to go it alone? Keeping our options open? It appears that way to me.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:51 GMT
#406
On June 06 2013 14:41 Umasi wrote:
Yeah, I'm afraid to go it alone. I want to win, and I'm not confident in myself, so other people expressing doubt like that makes me feel more uneasy. I guess I have shitty reading abilities, but I'm actively trying to improve it. I'm not mindlessly tunneling you, I feel like I've tried to read what you had to say in a pro-town light, but I don't see why you are saying what you're saying.
And my list may have been shitty. If so, ignore it and move on. If you don't ignore it, and it helps you achieve some understanding of the game, then it wasn't useless! If it confuses you, it was bad!
So was it bad, null, or good.
Did it confuse you, did you ignore it, or did it help you understand the game.

Everything you say pisses me off, and that makes me think you're mafia. It's possible you're town!
There's always a possibility! It's a possibility my role pm lied!
And keeping my options open is important, because someone could come and make a convincing case you are town. I'm not going to just continue tunneling you, that's STUPID.
If there is a better lynch than you, I will HAPPILY VOTE IT. At this point, I think you are the best lynch, and have the highest chance of flipping mafia, according to my shit reading abilities.

Your list is t shitty because its confusing. It's shitty because its scummy. Lists with like 1 sentence on each player are incredibly easy ways for mafia to appear to contribute. Most of your reads are "null." The only reason to post a bunch of null and town reads is to appear like you're doing something. You're just filling space. Find scum, or I'm not interested.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:52 GMT
#407
EBWOP: Your list is NOT shitty because its confusing.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:57 GMT
#408
On June 06 2013 14:44 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:59 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote:
My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates.
I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though.

"pulling out"
teeheehee.

Oh yeah? Well as soon as that random OMGUSer shows up, Im gonna take my vote of him and put it on you. The accumulated filth from all your badness and lack of player reading ability will foam up about your waist and you will look up and shout "Save me!" ... and I'll whisper "No."

How does that make you feel?

It makes me feel annoyed that you take a cocky self assured attitude, but I can't OUTWARDLY TELL WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME.
And before you say it's because I'm bad that I can't tell why you're better, I want you to explain it somehow. Hold my hand. If you're town, get along with a townie and hold my hand along this process.
Show me your fucking godlike abilities at mafia, and I'll happily sheep, if I think it's how we will win.

Why does my badness and lack of player reading ability mean that you should lynch me?

Son, one thing you will learn is that I am shit at mafia.

The next thing that you will learn is that I am purposefully abrasive for the shits and giggles.

The very next thing you will learn is you should still probably listen to me, because otherwise I will lynch you into oblivion. Ask the OMGUSer with the impossible to remember username.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 06:05 GMT
#411
Oh good, you're sticking to your guns for once.

I like that. I'll lynch you last (maybe). I might lynch you first, but I kinda like you and wouldn't mind keeping you around.

Looking at others motivations is good. Posting your own motivations without even being asked is dumb. But dumb is not scum.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 06:07 GMT
#412
Bed time for real this time.

Austin Powers Voice: Do behave, baby.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 06:14 GMT
#416
On June 06 2013 15:08 Onegu wrote:
I think it is apperant that ivlosk is town at this point. I dont uderstand why you keep saying he is scum. I also dont get why making a list of observations is useful at this point when over half of the people havent posted yet.

Like I said. It fills space and appears as contribution to the uninitiated and unobservant.

I don't address your points because there's no reason for me to. I've already spoken my piece and you weren't satisfied, no skin off my bones. I don't point you to the correct lynch because I haven't yet decided. We've really only seen a decent amount of content from 4 or 5 players and that's certainly not enough. That and, it's not my job to decide who you vote for.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 06:16 GMT
#418
Also, as town. It's your fault you're wasting your vote on me, not mine. Quit acting like its my responsibility to ordain where your vote should lie.

I'm perfectly happy to let your vote rest on me today. Again, no skin off my bones.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 06:23 GMT
#423
I thought that was odd, too. Incriminating me for using the word "brofists" when I wasn't even the one to bring it into the conversation was funny too.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 06:32 GMT
#428
On June 06 2013 15:28 Umasi wrote:
I'll operate under the assumption that you're town, because everyone else thinks so, and it seems like more will get done this way.
oh, and before you poke fun at me for pulling off of you, let me offer this preemptive rebuttal (see the irony?)
shut up and stop using stupid wordplay. fun as it is for you, it may be confusing for other people (specifically me) and that's bad.

##UNVOTE iVLosK!

Word play rhymes with Thursday and thirsty, If I'm thirst-AY!
I change the pronunciation of words, per se.
The English language gotta do whatever my verse say.

We are like 6 hours in and that was my very first posting of rap lyrics. OMGUS would be proud.

But seriously, how am I using wordplay? Does being right count as wordplay? If that's the case, fuck, my posts are filled with wordplay.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#460
On June 06 2013 20:19 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:00 iVLosK! wrote:
Who is the motherfucker who recognized me from OMGUS?

I will find you, mystery motherfucker.


I'm the finger down your spine when all the lights are out. I'm the name on all the men's room walls. When I pout, the whole world tries to make me smile. And everyone always wants to know, who... is... that girl?

Okay guys, listen up. I can read vloski like a Dr Seuss book. And he is without a doubt town. I've like, never been wrong about him.

So, ##vote: Spicydinosaur

For all his posts being about game theory (lynching lurkers, etc.) and none of them having any intention of finding scum.

You motherfucker you know who I am but I don't know who you are. I don't like that.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#461
If you're tweek, you have totally been wrong about me before.

My gut tells me you're WWF.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 12:30 GMT
#464
On June 06 2013 21:25 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 21:11 iVLosK! wrote:
If you're tweek, you have totally been wrong about me before.

My gut tells me you're WWF.


That was the first game ever, after that I got a taste for VTK and my tastebuds dont lie.

Okay so this is Tweek. Despite his aforementioned gaffe in helping to lynch a vigilante me in his first game, he has become one of the better readers of VTK. Shame no one listens to him.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 12:43 GMT
#466
On June 06 2013 21:38 Spicydinosaur wrote:

@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.



What is it that causes you to have a town read on Skanjab if all he's done is "throw a vote with nothing else?"
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 12:52 GMT
#468
On June 06 2013 21:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 21:43 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 21:38 Spicydinosaur wrote:

@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.



What is it that causes you to have a town read on Skanjab if all he's done is "throw a vote with nothing else?"


Town read because it would be an incredibly stupid move if he were mafia. His reason for voting me is extremely weak and given his position of having 0 posts before this... it draws too much attention to him. He's not trying to blend in with the crowd and feels more akin to a new townie player than anything else.

What if he was successful in lynching you? That seems a pretty good reason to come out of the fold.

Also this "mafia like to hide" shit bothers me, because you're making sweeping generalizations about what everyone does in the same situation. If all mafia acted alike this game would be super easy. Some mafia are just as in-your-face as I can be at times. And it's not just you that's said it, so don't think I'm picking on you.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 12:56 GMT
#471
On June 06 2013 21:53 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +

@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.



Umasi comes across as a townie to me, albeit one that was gotten to by ivloski.


He is one of my many conquests, you must refer to him as such. >
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 13:37 GMT
#475
On June 06 2013 16:19 Umasi wrote:
That's the thing, he felt so abrasive it was hard for him to be scum, but backing down and being like "he's probably town" is annoying, because I feel like he'll bring it up again pointlessly, merely to spite me. And my gut instinct then will be to say "he's mafia!!!!" which is WRONG. And it's BAD for him to do that.
regardless.
The first thing was his preemptive reasoning, which I took as an excuse, and still kind of do. there's nothing for him to be afraid of if he's town, so it's kinda scummy! Might as well talk about it.
When he comes back and tells us to vote on him, I couldn't think of any possible fucking reason other than "he's stirring the pot, and that's scummy." Apparently, it was to generate discussion, but I still don't know why he'd go back and bring it up again in the manner that he did. It felt like he was just drilling it in that he wasn't giving an excuse (and I still think that he FUCKING WAS, because it gives him reasoning to fall back on, and quickly assuages peoples doubts of him, but that doesn't make him mafia).
When Xzav pulled off of him, I don't know why he kept poking me to go at him. That's stupid! Why would he want me to stay on him? That's....bad. It means my vote is on the wrong person. This confused me.
And threatening to lynch me if my list of reads was unsatisfactory is stupid if he's done fuck all anyway.


What really makes me feel he's town though is that he says he's abrasive for shits and giggles, because it fits in with the way he'd been playing, because he never felt antagonistic, just trolly, which isn't necessarily scum.

I think that made sense.

Also, iV, me wasting my vote isn't your FAULT, but it sure as shit is your CONCERN, because you want scum lynched.

Not just merely to spite you. Someone who is unsure of their convictions, just testing the waters without laying down anything concrete is probably scum. That's why I asked you to vote me. That's why I repeatedly said "If I'm scum, say I'm scum." and "Why does x's actions affect who you think is scum?"

I'm a scummy guy, it's my MO.

The manner that I did it generated exactly the discussion I wanted.

See the above.

I will still lynch you if you continue to have shitty reads.

On June 06 2013 15:51 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 15:22 Yavanna wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:01 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:58 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:56 Xzavier wrote:
##vote:iVlosk!
Ill take this vote back when you defend yourself with logic over brofists

Keep it there, then. I like my brofists.

Just explain why you think what you do, why you made a preemptive excuse, and why you like your brofists. Liking brofists is BAD. Brofists are emotional. We, as town, do not want emotional. We want thought and logic.



I need a little clarification on the bolded point Umasi. You are calling iV's play emotional, yet he seems to be keeping a pretty level head in this shit storm that's started up. The only emotional vibes I'm getting are from you. Are you meaning to be contradicting?

I am not meaning to be emotional, what I realized is that he was stirring me up, and that's what I was referring to. For a while I felt like he was egging me, and then I realized he was DEFINITELY egging me..
but I came to the conclusion that doesn't make him mafia or town, it just makes him annoying and antagonistic.
I was wrong when I thought he started the use of the word brofists, but I do not like how he ran with it. It still annoys me, because it's nothing but misdirecting to me
and the main reason I had for thinking he was scum, was his stupid antagonism.
That's just me being a whiny emotional bitch.
The reason I've gone afk for about an hour at a time is I've been trying to cool my head, and then I get back and he posts some shit about me drowning in my own mediocrity and I think "ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS"
So although I'd still like to lynch him, god knows I'd like to lynch him, out of spite, I've decided it's a bad idea. I originally pressured him on that stupid and inconsequential point (preemptive excuses) because I wanted to get discussion rolling, and I got overly emotional, in the face of him.
I'm rambling, it's late, but I'm not tired. so I'll try to consolidate if anything is confusing.


What you're referring to is this post:
On June 06 2013 13:59 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote:
My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates.
I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though.

"pulling out"
teeheehee.

Oh yeah? Well as soon as that random OMGUSer shows up, Im gonna take my vote of him and put it on you. The accumulated filth from all your badness and lack of player reading ability will foam up about your waist and you will look up and shout "Save me!" ... and I'll whisper "No."

How does that make you feel?

That is a reference from a movie and not something to take too seriously. I reference a lot of movies and music, the only problem is the type of people who play mafia are usually not the kind of people who get my references.
If something seems out of place, only mildly relevant, or if it rhymes. Assume it's a sports reference, movie reference, or a rap lyric. Jab can testify that I post a lot of rap lyrics as a "Come at me, bro!"

If I call myself:
Mista Mista Quick-ta-get-witcha chick
if she got off quick, with this
she be like "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah."
Like "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah."

Just know that I'm probably not being serious.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 13:49 GMT
#477
On June 06 2013 21:55 Onegu wrote:
The strongest read I have is on iVlosk as town t this point, but a wish he would curse less.

Prettier faces than you have tried and failed to address that, my friend. I got no clout, small bank, but a big mouth.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 13:54 GMT
#478
On June 06 2013 10:45 Umasi wrote:
hey everyone, I have no idea how to get a game started. Let's a gogo?
Should I put a vote on someone? Carefully analyzed?
##VOTE LoneMeow


On June 06 2013 10:51 Umasi wrote:
##UNVOTE LONEMEOW

Umasi, take me through your thought process here.

Why the random vote? Was it to "get the ball rolling?"

And if so, why remove it 6 minutes later, leaving the ball completely unrolled.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#482
So I'm bad because I'm abrasive and Yavanna is bad for the opposite reason?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 19:19 GMT
#500
On June 07 2013 03:43 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 03:31 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@Skanjab1s what do you make of firere345's asking the mods about a jester? Do you feel its newbie town or scum?


I'd think that a newbie town would have read the rules quite carefully and would know that kind of thing, so added with his sheeping onto iV for a really terrible reason, I'm leaning scum. I do want to hear more from him though.

Could just be someone who said "FUK DA ROOLZ," like myself.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 19:39 GMT
#505
Just had a decent look at the filters. That filter link is nice as f#%! I wish we had one where I come from.

Anyways, there are 2 people who haven't even posted since the game started. tE (or whatever) and StimmAddict. Now, T has just one post in the whole thread, his "/in" post and that's it. Pretty clearly someone who just signed up and fucked off. Probably going to be modkilled. Pay no mind.

But the other one, StimmAddict is a little more interesting. Go read his filter. Super interested, super involved prior to the game starting. Posts about how excited he is in the day leading up to the game. Even adds a "Gl Hf" post mere hours before the game starts. But is completely silent now that roles have been sent out.

Just something interesting I found during my lunch break.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 00:25 GMT
#547
Well. It's been 24 hours, I am going to monitor the situation with Gotard, but for now I'm going to stick my vote on Stimm. I had the dumbest rationale for picking a vote in my first game. The guy had used his name but excluded all the vowels, (brndnstffrd). I was town, and I voted for him. Because he was a vowel hater. Not a joke.

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 04:50 GMT
#556
I like it.

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 04:52 GMT
#557
The "why would I...?" Argument doesn't work because its completely dependent on you telling us what your actions mean and what your motivations are.

If I had replied to your early game pressure with "Why would I so clearly not give a fuck as scum?" I'd probably be the lynch. And I'd deserve it. Because its an awful defense. And it makes me want to lynch you.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 04:55 GMT
#560
If I could lynch 3 people in order right now:

Gotard
Umasi
That guy whose name is like frefre or something. I dunno.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 04:55 GMT
#561
EBWOP: firere
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 15:58 GMT
#645
On June 08 2013 00:48 Umasi wrote:
Onegu, I found what iV was doing scummy and it turned out he was just being an asshole.


It's been explained to you over and over why I play like this. If you want to call it being an asshole, that's fine. But it brought 3-4 players who are now clear reads into the light for me. I'll take that over coming in and being nice to you and gaining nothing from it, any day.

When you call "getting a read on me" "being an asshole," it makes me think that maybe you don't want me to get a read on you.
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June 07 2013 16:20 GMT
#658
On June 08 2013 01:03 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 00:53 Gotard wrote:
##Vote: Skanjab1s


Skanjab is not going to be lynched today barring some huge slip on his part. Right now the votes are between you and Firere345. If you don't want to get lynch you should make a miraculous case and get your vote on Firere345.

Yeah we're not lynching skanjab today. As someone who has played with him as scum and as town, I can say that with some confidence.


On June 08 2013 01:03 Skanjab1s wrote:
I'm getting worried about this Gotard lynch because most of my scummier reads are voting him, and my townier reads are voting Firere (barring iV).

It's cool. I've having some second thoughts.

Yeah, let's do this. I'm missing boxing for this.

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:00 GMT
#663
On June 08 2013 01:42 fferyllt wrote:
Hey iVL I'd like to hear your thoughts about Yavannah. You're both in my neverlynch pile and you are game-savvy so you're a player I'd be willing to test my reads with.


Asking good questions, responded well to Umasi saying she was "suspiciously nice". Exploring good avenues that I hadn't even thought of with questioning and logical thought.

Calls her pressure vote a pressure vote. A vote stops being pressure the moment you call it that. Noobie mistake, I'd say.

Has dropped off of the map recently.

Likely town.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#665
On June 08 2013 01:55 Onegu wrote:
Just so you guys know I will be sleeping in the next 2 hours. Iv can you give a good reason for conforming to votes for your last 2 votes please. I would like to see if firere comes back and offers some more reasoning and defense. Xzav and yavannah what are your thoughts on skan, firere, and umasi?

EVeryone conforms to votes unless you're the very first person to vote for a player. In a game of 13 people a majority vote might be 7 players. Does that mean 6 players are scummy for following what that guy said?

I've been fairly active and outspoken in saying that all of the people I've jumped to and from are on my scumdar.

See below,
On June 07 2013 13:55 iVLosK! wrote:
If I could lynch 3 people in order right now:

Gotard
Umasi
That guy whose name is like frefre or something. I dunno.

The fact that I'm jumping between 3 people who I said I wanted to lynch based on new posts coming from each of them isn't really all that surprising.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:13 GMT
#668
On June 08 2013 02:07 fferyllt wrote:
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On June 08 2013 02:00 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 08 2013 01:42 fferyllt wrote:
Hey iVL I'd like to hear your thoughts about Yavannah. You're both in my neverlynch pile and you are game-savvy so you're a player I'd be willing to test my reads with.


Asking good questions, responded well to Umasi saying she was "suspiciously nice". Exploring good avenues that I hadn't even thought of with questioning and logical thought.

Calls her pressure vote a pressure vote. A vote stops being pressure the moment you call it that. Noobie mistake, I'd say.

Has dropped off of the map recently.

Likely town.

Maybe.

I thought the questions lacked followt hrough, but that could be newb too.

I pointed out the futility of indicating votes are for pressure purposes when SpicyDinosaur (I think that's who...not going to check) posted something similar about pressuring lurkers quite early in the game, though. Maybe that comment would stand out as something not to do to newb scum more than to newb town.

Noted, and thanks.


Not to say that scum can't ask questions. But I just don't see those kind of questions coming from a scum player whose never played a game of mafia before.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:14 GMT
#669
On June 08 2013 02:12 Xzavier wrote:
also i think fferyllt is 100% town. biggest town read by far. Just gonna put that here somewhere. He has explained actions, clarified everything for people. generally done a shit-ton of work to make this a much better pro-town environment.

Keeping your town reads to yourself whenever possible keeps your buddies alive longer.

You just explained to mafia why they should kill her tonight.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 18:18 GMT
#677
On June 08 2013 02:47 fferyllt wrote:
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On June 08 2013 02:29 Xzavier wrote:
On June 08 2013 02:14 fferyllt wrote:
On June 08 2013 02:05 Xzavier wrote:
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.

The bolded was a dumb thing to post.


i had to quote this to find where you bolded. and got it, dont post who your positive is town. check.

this is one big learning experience.

Remind me to revisit this in the postgame discussion if I don't bring it up.

No.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#679
On June 08 2013 03:41 fferyllt wrote:
knock yourself out. Skanjab gave a good enough short answer.

Wut?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 19:54 GMT
#685
For someone who didn't read, that's not an awful case. Finish reading and see if your thoughts change any.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 21:27 GMT
#686
I have a wedding to attend this evening and pool to shoot afterwards so I won't be around for flip. Probably won't check in until tomorrow, as my phone doesn't have internet capabilities anymore.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 08 2013 06:35 GMT
#743
Well done, well done. Haven't read up on the posts leading up to the flip as it is 1:30 in the morning local time and I have work in a few hours.

Those of you who were not on the correct lynch, step into my office.
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June 08 2013 06:41 GMT
#744
On June 08 2013 13:44 Onegu wrote:
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On June 08 2013 13:10 Xzavier wrote:
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?


Yeah I got that also, but I didnt really get a gotard being scum feeling in the first place, but I had a null feel on fire also so I dont know where that leaves me. I would like lonemeow to respond some more before placing a strong read on him. I just dont like how skan just refused to give good answers to me. I still have a scum read on umasi at this point, but mybe my bandwagon thing without good reason is just off base.

Explain why you made your vote useless today by voting for someone who was never in a million years going to be lynched and failing to even try to convince others to join you.

A vote is a terrible thing to waste, Toss.
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June 08 2013 13:51 GMT
#770
Xzavier, you said we could be friends and then you tried to save the now dead scum.

I don't know if we can be friends anymore.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 08 2013 18:17 GMT
#778
And if you don't reply to V before his lunch break is over...





















You're gonna have a bad time.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 02:21 GMT
#812
Late flip? Coo' beans, coo' beans.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 02:52 GMT
#816
On June 09 2013 11:24 Spicydinosaur wrote:
iVLosK! i just want to say I love your D1 play style.

Thank you, thank you. It wouldn't have been possible without the fans.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 02:55 GMT
#818
I'm currently hosting a game back on my home planet so I may be a little distracted for a few days.

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING DEEZ NIGHT ACTIONS
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 02:56 GMT
#819
On June 09 2013 11:54 Skanjab1s wrote:
Unfortunately his D2 playstyle is to spam the thread with NFL gifs

That's my all day, every day play style. This place would just ban me in a half hour or less if I did half the stuff that I do back in our world.

SO I ACTUALLY HAVE TO TRY, WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT?!
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 04:11 GMT
#822
Tweek!
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 13:07 GMT
#842
Tweek mason'd me, of course. I was the only one whose alignment he was 100% sure of.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 14:02 GMT
#843
This place is dead whenever I can be on. And makes 8 new pages while I'm at work.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 14:36 GMT
#848
We discussed our thoughts on scum reads, the conversations weren't very thorough because we both were busy for most of the night phase. I'll post any relevant quotes when I get back from work tonight.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 14:38 GMT
#849
We also freestyled about boats and hoes, because that's what we do. So there's that.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#885
On June 10 2013 01:56 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Ok caught up on the reading and here are some thoughts.

1. I want to see the complete mason logs between skanjab1 and iVLosK! as a partial reveal just feels a bit suspicious.

2. (speculation) Skan was probably killed because scum feared that the more vocal townies were protected at night. Or Vlosk is uber pro scum and had me fooled (hope not).

3. We only had 1 night kill so there is less likely a chance of an sk. If a jailor was on someone last night I would say keep up the roleblock just to be safe.

4. No vigi kill can mean a few things... either we don't have a vig, the vig didn't want to shoot, or they are unable to shoot till night 2.

5. Yavanna needs to speak up a lot today and the fact she didn't vote is quite troubling (as is the fact she is still alive).

6. As for lone... I want to see more of his posts before I throw a vote on him. Also Lone... who are your scum reads atm.

That's a nice summary post you've got there. Sums up the thread with observations and calls for others to act, but doesn't say much. Did your scum coach teach you to do that?

Also, you're not getting the full mason logs. You're getting what I decide is appropriate to share with the general populace. Don't particularly care what you think is suspicious.
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June 09 2013 21:47 GMT
#888
I get off work in a little more than 2 hours. Expect mason logs to hit the thread in about 3.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 00:54 GMT
#895
THE + Show Spoiler +
FUCKING
MASON CHAT, + Show Spoiler +
FUCKING
ABRIDGED:


Blue= iVLosK!
= Skanjab
Underlined== Hosts
#x: Post number
+ Show Spoiler +

#1:
Quick topic for Skanjab1s and iVLosk!
You may use this quick topic or use PMs or other channels if you prefer.
You may talk privately until the night is over.


#2:
HEY VAN!!


#3:
TWEEK


#6:
Okay, thanks to my late-night we only have 12 hours to talk. I'm going to be at work but I'll do my best to pop in when I can, definitely during my lunch.

I'm trying to have some of these noob scum feel the heat get turned up. They just lost a PR and I'm telling them that if they voted wrong they need to step into my office, further pressuring Onegu. They should feel chased and this might be to our advantage.

Ok. I haven't yet looked over the posts from after I left for the wedding. But just from the vote-count, it doesn't look like a whole bunch of scummies jumped on their teammate at the last second for town cred. Most of what I remember seeing we're the same people who were voting him before I left. That means, that for me, the first place to look is on our non-firere voters. I'm not going to be like fucking Xzavier and say its impossible he was bussed, but it was close enough all day that the only way that makes a whole lot of sense is maybe the last 1 or 2 people to jump on firere could be suspicious.

So those are most of my thoughts on the voting, I think.


#8.
Basically Gotard voters now need to be looked at under a fucking microscope.


#10, 11, 12.
Yeah, I think that LoneMeow looks the most scummy at the moment, because for most of the day he was saying how what Gotard did was too brash to be scum, and how he wants to lynch Firere, but then when it came down to the time when the votes were super close, he suddenly changed his opinion for very little reason

I also dont know wtf Onegu is doing, really.

Oh yeah, I can also choose you to talk to again for the next day cycle, but I dont know if Imma do that yet, I don't really know how to play this role to be honest.


#13.
Yeah I read your case on LM. He's a decent D2.

Why did Xzavier switch from firere to Gotard?

And my thought on Onegu are that he would have at least tried to save a teammate by voting Gotard, wasting his vote on Umasi doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective.


#14.
Xzavier was on Gotard for most of the day, but then he apparently thought that what Gotard was doing was too retarded to be scum, but then he quickly changed his mind back to Gotard after like, 5 minutes.

he said this: "the claim on firere is weak. im going with my gut and my case."

I dont like how he keeps saying that he is obv town and conftown, because he really isnt, and most of the noobs just seem to be assuming that he is 100% town.


#15.
Onegu and Umasi are both coming off as noobtown to me. But Umasi less so, I had initially thought he was very noobtown, but the more he posts the less I think it. He also seems very very defensive, whenever anyone questions him he tries really hard to get them to not suspect him.


#16.
Yeah he[Xzavier] is absolutely not confirmed. Bothers me too.


#17.
Oh yeah, there might be a scum masoner too, so if you get masoned by anyone else you must claim it in the thread!

Woo


#22.
Also the whole reason he[Xzavier] made a case on gotard and voted him was an OMGUS, rofl.


#25.
Exactly how many prize money's do I get if we win this?

Enough for boats and hoes?


#26.
The Nina, The Pinta, The Santa Maria, I'll do ya in the bottom, while yer drinking San Grea. Nachos, Lemonheads, and my dad's boat, you wont go down cause my dick can float.

BOATS N HOES BOATS N HOES I GOTTA HAVE ME MY BOATS N HOES


#28.
Uh, we are pretty much on the same page so far, should I talk to you again tomorrow or should I choose someone else?


#31.
[green]VAAAAAAAAAANS GOT FAAAAAAAANS


#31 was the final message of the log.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 04:46 GMT
#902
On June 10 2013 13:32 fferyllt wrote:
The title says "ABRIDGED" which usually means parts were left out.

Yeah I tried to make that clear by including the post numbers.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 04:49 GMT
#903
On June 10 2013 13:45 Onegu wrote:
Ebwop

When I mean edited I mean more than leaveing posts out...

Oh, you're asking if I faked it. It's possible. Tweek and the mods are the only ones with access to it, and they sure can't verify it for you. I think you're vastly overestimating how many fucks I give, though.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 04:55 GMT
#904
On June 10 2013 13:29 Onegu wrote:
Could this be edited looks like that would takemsome time to do and I dont think it was at this point but want to ask the question anyway.

You caught me. It was edited. I wasn't going to tell you guys but then Onegu asked and my secret weakness is that I have to answer every question truthfully.



If it was edited, do you think I would tell you??? What kind of gotcha question is this?
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June 10 2013 05:30 GMT
#906
No, that's a serious question. What the fuck were you hoping to accomplish with that question?
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June 10 2013 12:41 GMT
#920
On June 10 2013 15:30 Onegu wrote:
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On June 10 2013 14:30 iVLosK! wrote:
No, that's a serious question. What the fuck were you hoping to accomplish with that question?


You are getting way to upset over this. I never asked what was left out, I only asked if it was possible. Your reaction to the question does make me wonder what was left out though.

But you're missing my point. If I had edited it, then I'm clearly scum covering something up, AND I WOULDN'T TELL YOU. So why even ask the question?

If I did edit it: The answer to the question would be no.
If I didnt: The answer would still be no.

So what could you have possibly hoped to gain?
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June 10 2013 12:44 GMT
#921
Will Yavanna be modkilled if she fails to vote (again) today?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 12:49 GMT
#923
On June 10 2013 21:45 Onegu wrote:
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On June 10 2013 21:41 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 10 2013 15:30 Onegu wrote:
On June 10 2013 14:30 iVLosK! wrote:
No, that's a serious question. What the fuck were you hoping to accomplish with that question?


You are getting way to upset over this. I never asked what was left out, I only asked if it was possible. Your reaction to the question does make me wonder what was left out though.

But you're missing my point. If I had edited it, then I'm clearly scum covering something up, AND I WOULDN'T TELL YOU. So why even ask the question?

If I did edit it: The answer to the question would be no.
If I didnt: The answer would still be no.

So what could you have possibly hoped to gain?


But you answered my question when you said it was possible, thats all I really wqnted to know. This is my first game of mafia.

Of course it's possible. This is a game of deceit and false fronts. I'm the only surviving, non-mod member of that conversation so you all have to take me at my word on the content I've provided. I've probably read too far into what was most likely an off hand comment about editing.
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June 10 2013 13:08 GMT
#927
On June 08 2013 22:51 iVLosK! wrote:
Xzavier, you said we could be friends and then you tried to save the now dead scum.

I don't know if we can be friends anymore.


On June 10 2013 02:34 Xzavier wrote:
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On June 10 2013 02:12 Onegu wrote:
A few hours before I sleep. Just a few things to add right now I would like to know iV scum reads at this point. Second I doubt there is a SK. I am feeling Gotard is town at this point. Xavier assumeing there are at least 2 scum still alive what are your reads at this point. Ffer do you have anythoughts on yavanna?


Usami/Lonemeow
yavanna isnt even on my radar as im expecting her to be modkilled
Gotard probably is town.


I know this seems super generic. but im off to work. ill explain when i get home in 5ish hours i think


##Vote: Xzavier

Your posts have been piss poor since the D1 flip in which you attempted to save a confirmed scum.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 13:10 GMT
#928
On June 09 2013 05:44 Xzavier wrote:
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On June 09 2013 05:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@gotard. I don't think that's a huge point about the reading abilities. New players feel a lot of intimidation early on with reads but then they can get better and feel more confident. As for your list of those with votes on you.. its interesting but im not 100% sure all scum were on you to save firere... yet. Going to wait for night actions to see that.


I agree with this. scum were probably on him.
If i was scum tho i wouldnt want to do the indecisive last minute vote switching. That raises too many questions that a scum wouldnt want to answer. but lonemeow and umasi are really high on my scum list.

"If I was scum, I wouldn't want to do that thing that I did."

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 13:36 GMT
#929
On June 10 2013 22:01 LoneMeow wrote:
We really need more activity here or scum will get an easy win. So let's talk about lynches. Who are your top reads right now, iVLosK!?

See above.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#945
I have never seen so many people use the phrase "confirmed town" so many times in such a short window of time.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 21:11 GMT
#981
lol@ Umasi circling the wagons. Why ask town to lynch you? If you're town you should want their votes on scum, not wasted on you.

I laugh because you're doing a damn good impersonation of my scum-play with all this "Im not even going to try to respond because YES, I AM SCUMMY. But when I flip town..."

I think I'd like to kill you today, Umasi.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


If I were a gambling man, (and I am) I'd put 20 bucks on Lone flipping town. Just a gut feel.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 21:14 GMT
#982
This was never answered when I asked 36 hours ago:
Will Yavanna be modkilled if she fails to vote again?

Seems a bit shady if hosts are killing some people for a rule infraction and not others for the very same infraction. I thought TL was supposed to be the forum with rigid, uncompromising rules and all the others were for us barbarians.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 21:19 GMT
#983
Seems a lot shady, on the part of the hosts.

If she's contacted you about some complication and that's why you've spared her, you need to inform the thread that she's at least been in contact with you and hasn't just fucked off.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 21:30 GMT
#985
On June 11 2013 06:27 Umasi wrote:
Also, what do you mean by "circling the wagons"
I pretty fucking clearly laid out why I want to lynch Lonemeow, and then Yavanna afterward.
I didn't ask town to lynch me, I told them they can feel fucking free to do so. Because it is their choice, however they choose to waste it.
And if I did ask town to lynch me, whoops! I must have forgotten something I'd said!
oh darn.
I've been so unbelievably hypocritical and self contradictory this game it wouldn't even matter.

Your location says United States and you seriously haven't ever heard that phrase before?

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 21:33 GMT
#986
THIS IS MY FIGHT STOP TELLING ME HOW YOU WOULD FIGHT HIM

YOU ARENT ME
YOU CANT BE ME, UMASI

YOU HAD A HARD ENOUGH TIME BEING YOU AND THATS WHY YOURE IN HERE

/reference

Circling the wagons was a reference to your "Yeah, I'm scummy. What of it?" approach. You're acting like a scum VlosK
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 10 2013 21:38 GMT
#989
I've liked his content better than yours since the flip. Like I said, gut feel. I haven't read either of your filters since D1.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 01:40 GMT
#1025
Well, someone owes me $20.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 01:43 GMT
#1026
I never like it one of my so-so reads directs blue actions.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 01:53 GMT
#1028
You guys thought LM was scum because you looked it up in a guide.

I looked it up in my gut.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 02:01 GMT
#1030
Consider it dealt with.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#1032
There may not even be a final scum.

2 scum, 1 SK is a perfectly reasonable setup for a 13 player game.

Unfortunately, Yavanna's flip tells us diddly shit because she was gone all game.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 02:16 GMT
#1034
Would have been nice to have had her be modkilled D1 like she was supposed to be. Could have spent our efforts elsewhere.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 02:18 GMT
#1036
On June 11 2013 11:16 fferyllt wrote:
SK could have withheld the kill last night, I guess. I've been thinking scum only since the daybreak post.

SK wouldn't even have to withhold.

2 scum: we kill one, the other is gone. No one to send in a scum KP.

I'm completely speculating here.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 02:22 GMT
#1038
SKs in my neck of the woods always shoot for scum.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 02:23 GMT
#1039
Slanjab was acting pretty blue, maybe he was aiming for a blue.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 04:36 GMT
#1066
On June 11 2013 12:10 Xzavier wrote:
i would say have investigative roles check Stimaddict

He called for a vigi shot on a dead person.

his day1 vote was a VT and he said he was going to vote for said VT every night until he was dead.

That warrents investigation lol

Your D2 vote was a confirmed town and your D1 vote was a last minute switch OFF of scum and ON to likely town.

Somebody doesn't want to be checked, because this was just awful reasoning for a Stimm check.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 04:42 GMT
#1070
No scum has ever said "I am going to push this mislynch until he is dead."

Ever. In the history of mafia. Sonofabitch. Especially not scared noob scum.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 04:48 GMT
#1072
On June 11 2013 13:46 fferyllt wrote:
Any time I read "No scum ever..." I add it to my list of things to do as scum. :D

I've tried it. Got lynched D3. Wouldn't recommend.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 04:49 GMT
#1073
I didn't put it nearly so bluntly, of course.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 13:58 GMT
#1078
On June 11 2013 18:17 Onegu wrote:
IvLosK after day 2 actions what are your thoughts on umasi, xzavier, and stimaddict? Since night has started you havent really posted much thoughtful insights.

Night started a few hours ago. And I've spent the first 6 hours of it or so sleeping.

And I've commented on all 3 of those guys in the last 24-36 hours.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 14:00 GMT
#1079
Why ask me about Xzavier and Stimm when my thought on them are already on this exact page?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 11 2013 14:06 GMT
#1080
I work full time, see you in 9 hours.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:04 GMT
#1123
On June 12 2013 10:47 Umasi wrote:
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On June 12 2013 10:39 Spicydinosaur wrote:
He was saying it because the way i wrote it sounded like i didnt consider other possibilities.

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On June 12 2013 10:45 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:24 Umasi wrote:
why would we have any reason to think there is a serial killer?
"what if"
"what if"
literally zero evidence supports it. There may very well just NOT BE A SERIAL KILLER.
Fuck, if no one claims, the only thing we can be sure of is a masoner (because he flipped) and a cop (because there was a godfather)
Worrying about the SK at this point is entirely irrelevant. We can worry about it once we see two kills and no vigilante claim


Why write this rant? the only mention of an sk that came after night actions was by me... which said not to worry about it which is exactly what u said.

Did you just backstep here, or am I missing something, because it looks like you tried justifying my rant, then you immediately questioned it.
And ffer was like "there are other possibilities" sure. why does town even care about the serial killer right now when it's not even confirmed?
We KNOW there is a third mafia, so ignore the SK
that's all.

Do YOU know there is a 3rd mafia?

Because my role pm didn't include how many mafia there are. Did yours?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:10 GMT
#1128
I've been notified that I was roleblocked last night.

If you're town and you roleblocked me I will personally shove my foot so far down your throat that a team of the best surgeons in the nation have to work around the clock to remove my work boot from your small intestine.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:11 GMT
#1129
Oh shit that was probably the jail, lol.

Somebody tried to shoot me and I was jailed. Thanks, Jailer. You're a peach.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:12 GMT
#1130
Disregard that stuff about lodging my boot in your small intestine. Love you.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:15 GMT
#1133
On June 12 2013 11:13 Spicydinosaur wrote:
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On June 12 2013 11:11 iVLosK! wrote:
Oh shit that was probably the jail, lol.

Somebody tried to shoot me and I was jailed. Thanks, Jailer. You're a peach.


Did it say you were attacked or just roleblocked/jailed?

Said I was roleblocked.

The lack of a kill makes me suspect that I was shot.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:18 GMT
#1137
On June 12 2013 11:17 Onegu wrote:
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On June 12 2013 11:11 iVLosK! wrote:
Oh shit that was probably the jail, lol.

Somebody tried to shoot me and I was jailed. Thanks, Jailer. You're a peach.


Lol but did it just say roleblocked? Or jailed?

Read the post that is 3 posts above yours.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:20 GMT
#1142
On June 12 2013 11:19 Onegu wrote:
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On June 12 2013 11:10 iVLosK! wrote:
I've been notified that I was roleblocked last night.

If you're town and you roleblocked me I will personally shove my foot so far down your throat that a team of the best surgeons in the nation have to work around the clock to remove my work boot from your small intestine.


Does this mean you are blue?

The underlined is something that you should never say in a mafia game.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:22 GMT
#1143
On June 12 2013 11:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:
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On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote:
Who got a message on night 1?


I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this.


Which mod sent you yours? Mine is from OO and it just says "You were roleblocked." End of message.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:23 GMT
#1145
Oh, lovely. I've just been fucked by the mods.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:26 GMT
#1150
On June 12 2013 11:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
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On June 12 2013 11:22 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote:
Who got a message on night 1?


I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this.


Which mod sent you yours? Mine is from OO and it just says "You were roleblocked." End of message.


2 separate messages. First from Sylencia saying i was jail kept. Second from Acrofales saying that just in case I didn't know, I was roleblocked.

Mine is just one message. They probably figured I didn't need the "In case you didn't know...".
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:27 GMT
#1151
On June 12 2013 11:25 fferyllt wrote:
I dunno.

You were blocked and protected evidently. You say your message was different but jesus christ it would be dumb to lie about something like that.

I'm a pretty dumb guy.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:30 GMT
#1153
On June 12 2013 11:28 fferyllt wrote:
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On June 12 2013 11:26 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:22 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote:
Who got a message on night 1?


I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this.


Which mod sent you yours? Mine is from OO and it just says "You were roleblocked." End of message.


2 separate messages. First from Sylencia saying i was jail kept. Second from Acrofales saying that just in case I didn't know, I was roleblocked.

Mine is just one message. They probably figured I didn't need the "In case you didn't know...".

But it was a role block, not a jail keep message?

Yes. The entire message was "You were roleblocked." The end. No more. Some mods simply inform of RB's upon jailing, in my experience. Apparently OO is one of them.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#1155
Just so we can get this off the table and go back to looking for scum/SK.

If I lied about being jailed, then where the fuck is the shot?

If no one counters my jail claim then it is confirmed.

/end.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:46 GMT
#1160
On June 12 2013 09:00 ObviousOne wrote:
Day 3

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I may have to start watching this show...
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 02:47 GMT
#1161
On June 12 2013 11:43 Onegu wrote:
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On June 12 2013 11:33 iVLosK! wrote:
Just so we can get this off the table and go back to looking for scum/SK.

If I lied about being jailed, then where the fuck is the shot?

If no one counters my jail claim then it is confirmed.

/end.



Well there are other possibilities such as scum afk or target was a vet. But what you say is the most likely option.

True, however neither of those scenarios explains the lack of a counter jail claim.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 19:26 GMT
#1184
Hey Umasi, is it cool with you if we lynch you today?


Okay, cool. Thanks bro.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 21:57 GMT
#1190
I say we lynch what's left of the Gotard wagon (Umasi and Xzavier) and then lynch the two who weren't on firere (Onegu and Stimm). Game over. Glorious town victory.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 22:24 GMT
#1193
On June 13 2013 07:08 fferyllt wrote:
iV you're giving me hives. You've switched from StimAddict to Umasi without explaining what makes Stim less likely to be scum today than yesterday. And you've suggested a partially unprioritized lynch list.

I've pretty much always said I didn't like Umasi. Go check my filter, that shit goes back to likw N1. That's why he's higher priority than Stimm. Stimm is townies because my scummies reads are pushing his lynch, in the case of Xzavier, by rationale that could also lynch them.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 22:24 GMT
#1194
*townier

Not townies.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 22:26 GMT
#1195
*scummier

Not scummies.

Don't know why my auto correct thought that was appropriate.


Anyways, I'm off to Night school and then I've got a date with a half bottle of McCormack's. I don't think I'll miss much.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#1196
I should mention I don't live alone so that the last post isn't nearly as pathetic. Hahahaha.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 12:41 GMT
#1312
On June 13 2013 15:27 fferyllt wrote:
Case for iV being scum (some of these may be null)

- argued against the yavanna case
- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch
- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1
- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi
- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer
- Has floated a few names on day 3 and apparently has no plans to POE his list of 4 before wagonning.
- Is not leading, despite being perceived as town by p much all.
- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility.
- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*

Case against iV being scum

- Day 1 gambit got the game rolling in a good direction
- Good protown general advice on stuff not to do in mafia.
- Skanjab read him as town, masoned him, self-proclaimed track record of reading him correctly**

* could be a style thing. If I were JK'd I'd make sure that possibility was kept in mind.
** strongest reason to think he's town IMO.


I'm still working on my Onego case.


Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.

- argued against the yavanna case

And repeatedly asked the mods why she had not been modkilled, at one point demanding that she either be modkilled or they explain why she hadn't.

- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch

I work all day, if you guys manufacture a wagon while I'm at work there's no way for me to be there "early" in the wagon. Get used to it.
- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1

Skanjab had a town read on me and trusted me with his life by masoning me. I would have manipulated him all game long with that kind of trust. Scum don't kill people who are positive of their town-ness.
- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi

Someone needs to explain to me how this is scummy. What I see here is "told everyone LM was going to flip town. Was correct. Voted for far scummier people."
- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer

Again, KP is not roleblockable.
- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility.

Pretty much everyone had a town read on her until she went AFK.
- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*

I don't even know what this means...
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 12:43 GMT
#1313
I'll narrow it down for you.

Xzavier and Umasi have been giving me a shitty feeling all game long and I believe that one of them is scum.

Let's lynch one of them, now.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 12:45 GMT
#1314
Onegu for potential SK.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:00 GMT
#1315
On June 13 2013 10:34 Umasi wrote:
okay onegu, I will try to explain why. This is literally the best I can do, to tell you why I'm town
I'm not responding to your posts, I'm responding to...I don't know what I'm responding to.
But rationalize this question:
two things, actually:


A: If I am scum, why have I drawn so much attention to myself, and

B: Why have I not been lynched yet.

What about me is towny enough that people are not voting me?

This defense. Is the worst defense. In all of mafia-dom.

"If I'm scum, how come people keep noticing me?"
Because you're mafia.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:04 GMT
#1316
On June 13 2013 11:07 fferyllt wrote:
As scum, I would not hesitate to bus a scum partner. If I thought the wagon was going to go through, I would get on it before it was a foregone conclusion.

I have literally done this minutes before the town pile-on started and looked like I was in front and leading the way. More than once.

If I were scum, I most likelly would have been on the Firere wagon. I would have gotten on it a little bit later than when I did, but early enough not to look like I"d given up on the wagon fading away.

This stuff about nobody bussing Firere is not surefire.

Not

at

all

The firere lynch was not a foregone conclusion. He was lynched by 1 vote. Any mafia voting for firere could have bullshitted any sort of reason for switching to gotard. Like "going with my gut," for instance.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:08 GMT
#1317
##Vote: Xzavier

Suck it.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:26 GMT
#1321
On June 13 2013 22:14 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 21:41 iVLosK! wrote:

Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.


What are you basing this off of? As far as we know there is only 1 scum left so he has to carry it out the kill himself. Hypothetically if u were last scum and jailed, your kill will not go through.

My own experience. Unless things are run drastically different here on TL, KP is not roleblockable unless explicitly stated in the rules.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:28 GMT
#1322
On June 13 2013 22:11 fferyllt wrote:
iV, based on your positions and opinons through night 2, who do you think would perceive you as the greatest danger to their win/survival?

Umasi and Xzavier, most likely.

But scared scum target loud town voices regardless of who they're FOSing, for fear that the loud voice might change and be directed at them. It doesn't make them much more scummy in my book.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 19:11 GMT
#1345
On June 14 2013 03:53 Onegu wrote:
I still have serious doubts about umasi and xzavier, but not posting all the masoner chat, the no kill the second night is really suspious.

Or in other words, the worst reason for a vote ever. You're setting a bad example for the noobs.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 19:13 GMT
#1346
I'm not going to be lynched today so you've succeeded in wasting your vote 3 days in a row now.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 19:24 GMT
#1347
Hey Jailer, jail me again tonight.

If there's something out there with KP, they'll have to take a shot sometime if they want to win. Til then, we can play the No-night-kill-game.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 19:27 GMT
#1350
Damn right, it's not.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 19:28 GMT
#1352
Glad you've decided to take part in the lynch today.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 19:36 GMT
#1355
[g]can I get a vote count, please?[/g]

Time to stop, drop, and set up shop.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 00:24 GMT
#1451
On June 14 2013 05:42 Xzavier wrote:
im 100% confident that if Onegu doesnt flip scum, its iV. and well fucking played iV. your a god damn mad genious, playing your "pro card" flaunting your dick all over the place, and if you do somehow manage to lynch me. id like everybody to read this post and realize that he is scum. hell ill make a full case on him right before the lynch if it looks like im going to die. so please, vote for him tomorrow. no matter what todays vote is i believe iV is scum.

except i did express concern of him before.

people ignore half of what i post

So I'm so totally confirmed scum... Yet you're not voting for me. GOTCHA, BOSS!
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 00:30 GMT
#1454
On June 14 2013 09:28 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 02:29 fferyllt wrote:
On June 13 2013 22:26 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 13 2013 22:14 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 21:41 iVLosK! wrote:

Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.


What are you basing this off of? As far as we know there is only 1 scum left so he has to carry it out the kill himself. Hypothetically if u were last scum and jailed, your kill will not go through.

My own experience. Unless things are run drastically different here on TL, KP is not roleblockable unless explicitly stated in the rules.


Reading the role descriptions on page 1 I'm not seeing how you figure this.


One more time, iV. Please explain how you figure this.

I read them and it did say that KP was RBable. That's weird and the only other game I've ever seen where that was a case was a game that I was hosting that had a crazy amount of KP, so the RB's were meant to bring it down. I suppose it's done differently here.

So yes, KP is blockable and I didn't read.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 00:39 GMT
#1457
On June 14 2013 09:32 fferyllt wrote:
Ok.

KP is an unsual piece of game mechanics where I hail from. I thought I might be missing something crucial in all this.

What are your thoughts on Stim's return to the game.


Null. I would much rather lynch Xzavier as he is playing like absolute garbage and acting like he's not. Stim doing what he's doing is a death sentence either way, so there's no scum or town motivation for it. Null.

On June 14 2013 09:33 fferyllt wrote:
Also, how frequently do you play games with a fair percentage of newbs?

Enough to get a feel for what's noob and what's not. The place where I come from had noob games that were like 75% noob, 25% vets to give a good example that I always played in.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 00:44 GMT
#1459
Xzavier, you say if Onegu flips town than I am definitely scum and we definitely need to lynch me after. Let me ask you something, suppose I flip town, then what are your thoughts? And if you say something moronic like "You won't flip town." I promise I will come to whatever mud hut you live in and shit down your throat. I want all your thoughts put down on what happens if iV flips town.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 00:44 GMT
#1460
Stim is the least likely to flip scum out of all of these, imo. Fucking kill Xzavier.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#1465
Now switch your vote, Onegu.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 00:53 GMT
#1467
The two most town, most experienced players in this game are voting for Xzavier. If you are not, you're fucking doing it wrong.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 01:07 GMT
#1477
On June 14 2013 10:00 Xzavier wrote:
gg, im going to say this before i get lynched



IV IS FUCKING TOWN AS FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK.


LYNCH THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF HIM NOW!!!!!!


read his filter 100x until you see what i saw. unfortunately im too late to write a case.


i want town to win. even if i do die. so kill him. DO IT NOW

Freudian slip?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 01:10 GMT
#1479
Sigh.

Jailer. Jail me.
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June 14 2013 01:14 GMT
#1483
*continues to pretend he knows what death note is*
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June 14 2013 01:18 GMT
#1486
We don't have much anime in Djibouti.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 01:21 GMT
#1488
Just request a replacement from the mod.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 01:23 GMT
#1491
On June 14 2013 10:22 Umasi wrote:
are you even reading the thread iV

What makes you think I'm not?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 01:33 GMT
#1496
On June 14 2013 10:26 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 10:20 StiMaDDict wrote:
Vig, kill me tonight. Don't waste tomorrow's lynch on me.


....I'll ignore you tomorrow.
I swear though
if you make a SINGLE VOTE POST
in spite of CLEARLY WANTING TO BE OUT OF THE GAME
you will be making NO SENSE AND ATTRACTING A MISLYNCH.
be warned.

Very warned.




/scary.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 01:36 GMT
#1497
On June 14 2013 10:26 Umasi wrote:
iV, he already asked for a replacement earlier :3

*adjusts monocle*

So he has.

Anyways, what do you guys think of the jailer jailing me tonight? Forces any lingering KP out there to either sit this night out and try to make me look bad, or take a shot and vindicate me.

In the former, no townies die tonight.
In the latter, we gain a confirmed town.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 01:41 GMT
#1499
I've never heard of being forced to take a shot, but if also never heard of roleblocks stopping KP either.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 02:27 GMT
#1504
Too late, I already did it.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 03:45 GMT
#1509
On June 14 2013 12:10 fferyllt wrote:
why is it that we are talking about SKs?

They're just so fascinating.

SK should claim so we can ask him all these questions.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 14:33 GMT
#1513
Just reminding the jailer to jail me.

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 19:38 GMT
#1514
On June 14 2013 19:55 Onegu wrote:
I dont understand why you guys keep calling me scummy without presenting a case just saying your gut is telling you I am scum, when there are better cases for iV, umasi, and even gotard.

I have presented multiple cases on umasi, gotard has had a decent case on him day one then he lurks alot, and iV has posted mostly fluff since night 1. I think night actions will go along way toward iV case. Like I said before my vote will be going on umasi when day starts again unless night actions point at iV, umasi is the last link in the day 1 and day 2 killings, day three also to some degree. If not for the jailkeeper posts I would have stayed on umasi anyway. Not sure why he called for the reveal doesnt make much since for him to do so as VT...

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Djibouti545 Posts
June 14 2013 19:39 GMT
#1515
On June 14 2013 19:55 Onegu wrote:
I dont understand why you guys keep calling me scummy without presenting a case just saying your gut is telling you I am scum, when there are better cases for iV, umasi, and even gotard.

I have presented multiple cases on umasi, gotard has had a decent case on him day one then he lurks alot, and iV has posted mostly fluff since night 1. I think night actions will go along way toward iV case. Like I said before my vote will be going on umasi when day starts again unless night actions point at iV, umasi is the last link in the day 1 and day 2 killings, day three also to some degree. If not for the jailkeeper posts I would have stayed on umasi anyway. Not sure why he called for the reveal doesnt make much since for him to do so as VT...

What exactly is this fictional case on iV that I've been hearing so much about? That I've been right every single time except for with Xzavier?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 00:22 GMT
#1519
On June 15 2013 08:04 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 04:39 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 14 2013 19:55 Onegu wrote:
I dont understand why you guys keep calling me scummy without presenting a case just saying your gut is telling you I am scum, when there are better cases for iV, umasi, and even gotard.

I have presented multiple cases on umasi, gotard has had a decent case on him day one then he lurks alot, and iV has posted mostly fluff since night 1. I think night actions will go along way toward iV case. Like I said before my vote will be going on umasi when day starts again unless night actions point at iV, umasi is the last link in the day 1 and day 2 killings, day three also to some degree. If not for the jailkeeper posts I would have stayed on umasi anyway. Not sure why he called for the reveal doesnt make much since for him to do so as VT...

What exactly is this fictional case on iV that I've been hearing so much about? That I've been right every single time except for with Xzavier?


It is not known if you were right on day 2.

I said "LoneMeow's probably gonna flip town."

And he did.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 00:24 GMT
#1520
Seriously, someone make a case on me.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 00:51 GMT
#1522
Yep. Already been addressed.

Has your Onegu case been posted?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 01:15 GMT
#1532
On June 15 2013 10:01 Spicydinosaur wrote:
iV you roleblocked again?

Nothing in my inbox, so No I was not.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 01:17 GMT
#1533
Damn kids. Anyone want to explain what makes Onegu more scum to you then say, Umasi?
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 12:36 GMT
#1558
On June 15 2013 11:30 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 10:17 iVLosK! wrote:
Damn kids. Anyone want to explain what makes Onegu more scum to you then say, Umasi?


What makes Onegu townier to you?

Or if he isn't townier, why were you so ambiguous with your wording?
Be more transparent.

The phrase "more scum" is not ambiguous. It means "more likely to flip scum."
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 20:02 GMT
#1573
Ambiguous means "not having clear meaning" so I clarified for you.

If you want my opinion, just ask for my opinion.

My opinion is that I prefer an Umasi vote over an Onegu vote due to voting histories.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 21:56 GMT
#1580
On June 16 2013 05:13 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 05:02 iVLosK! wrote:
Ambiguous means "not having clear meaning" so I clarified for you.

If you want my opinion, just ask for my opinion.

My opinion is that I prefer an Umasi vote over an Onegu vote due to voting histories.


You think that Onegu was the kill target last night? Or that scum intentionally or unintentionally made no kill? Or something else?

I don't want to speculate about the lack of kill. Nobody knows anything. But I'd say scum probably withheld the kill in the hopes I'd be jailed again. That's cool, scum. We're cool with town having the only KP around here.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 22:33 GMT
#1582
On June 16 2013 07:14 fferyllt wrote:

TBH if it's not Onegu, I'm going to have a nervous breakdown trying to decide between you or Umasi.for final scum.

In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.


Umasi is nervous scum.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 15 2013 22:59 GMT
#1584
On June 16 2013 07:37 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 07:33 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 16 2013 07:14 fferyllt wrote:

TBH if it's not Onegu, I'm going to have a nervous breakdown trying to decide between you or Umasi.for final scum.

In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.


Umasi is nervous scum.


And what was Xzav?

You voted for him too, honey.
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June 15 2013 23:27 GMT
#1586
On June 16 2013 08:20 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 07:59 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 16 2013 07:37 fferyllt wrote:
On June 16 2013 07:33 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 16 2013 07:14 fferyllt wrote:

TBH if it's not Onegu, I'm going to have a nervous breakdown trying to decide between you or Umasi.for final scum.

In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.


Umasi is nervous scum.


And what was Xzav?

You voted for him too, honey.


I know. I still would like an answer to my question.

Xzav was a player with an abysmal voting record that I wanted lynched.

I wanted Xzav to die so badly, that I had a bomb placed on him just in case I ever died before getting it accomplished. I placed that bomb N1. I lost it because Xzav was lynched.

The edited parts of the mason chat are me and skanjab discussing my role and agreeing that Xzav was the best place to put it.

I'm the Mad Hatter. I am essentially a VT, now.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 16 2013 04:46 GMT
#1593
Yay!
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 16 2013 05:04 GMT
#1600
Good game, guys. I had fun.
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Djibouti545 Posts
June 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#1633
On June 16 2013 17:02 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 14:01 fferyllt wrote:
On June 16 2013 13:47 s0Lstice wrote:
fferyltt, you played really well. the one thing I would say is work on your confidence. Your reads were pretty darn good..sometimes you gotta browbeat people to get them to see the light. Did you really like that Xzav lynch? I bet you coulda stopped it if you were louder. Overall though your play was really fun to watch, I hope you play again.

Speaking of the Xzav lynch....so confusing lol. He looked really town right from the starting gun. Things got weird, but a day 1 re-read really should have stopped his lynch imo.

Onegu, you played a heroic scum game...the deck was stacked against you and you gave it a good fight. Fferyltt really needed to die though to a NK. In your shoes I'd have probably gunned for her night 1.

thanks. was really disappointed with myself on day 3. my goal was to get onegu lynched and then jk iV again. I went back and forth on whether to trust iV and trust his reads when I did trust that he was town.

I am usually not alive on day 3. my game is turned to day 1 and 2. I fall apart on day 3 and sometimes pull myself back together if I am still in the game in day 4.

I thought I was way too obvious on night 1 telling SD that one of us would be around on day 2.


What made you decide to trust him?

'CAUSE MY BANK ROLL MAKE THE SCUM GIRLS PAY ATTENTION
THE TOWN GIRLS LIKE IT WHEN I WHIP IT, WHIP IT

...Sorry.
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