Newbie Mini Mafia XLII

On May 29 2013 04:37 Melliflue wrote:
I am complete newbie but I am interested in playing. I have never played mafia before, either on a forum or IRL. I have played a few games of "The Resistance" which is kinda similar, perhaps.

I'll probably ask the coach a lot of questions though. And I've never used QuickTopics before :p

I nervous that I will completely mess everything up, which is why I am reluctant to just join. Is anybody going to be really mad if I am very bad at the game?

Will timezones be a problem? So far, there is one person in South Korea but everyone else is in the Americas, whereas I'm in Europe, so I may be asleep when most of the activity is going on (US evening time I guess).

On June 05 2013 23:22 Sylencia wrote:
oo we're full again!

On June 05 2013 15:33 Xzavier wrote:
Actual useful question. anybody know of a way to get a notification on your phone for when somebody replies to this thread? it could make life more convienient (spelling op/takes too much effort to google)

On June 06 2013 10:49 Xzavier wrote:

Now, to get the ball rolling. Im going to ask what your preferred lynch order would be (if nobody has any strong reads)
mine is active scum>lurking scum>lurker.

The reason for this is obvious: active scum will try to throw us all off.
Lurking scum are bitches, just kill us and dont say sorry.
Lurking townies hurt us just as bad (by giving lurking scum people to lurk with)

On June 06 2013 11:13 iVLosK! wrote:
Lynching lurkers isn't a strategy that I really like in a noobie game. What we'll find is that some people just signed up and fucked off, regardless of alignment. Or people who vastly underestimated the amount of time/effort they'd need to put in.

Having said that, I won't be nailed down and if I feel a lurker is scum I'll vote them in a second and you all will be like "Aww Vlosk said he doesn't like lynching lurkers in noob games!"

On June 06 2013 11:34 Xzavier wrote:

Also the reason im for lynching a lurker night one is even if it is a noobie who realized they didnt have the time for it, then they arnt ever gonna be useful for us in this game, so it still would be more productive than a No-lynch.

On June 06 2013 12:38 LoneMeow wrote:


I would very much rather lynch a lurker than go no-lynch. Would you rather:

a) be at LYLO with one or more players that are completely unreadable
b) be at LYLO slightly earlier with players you can at least try to get a read on

Lurking townies aren't just "not useful to town", they're an actual liability later in the game.

Obviously you should lynch scum reads over lurkers, but you shouldn't give lurkers a free pass either.

On June 06 2013 20:19 Skanjab1s wrote:


I'm the finger down your spine when all the lights are out. I'm the name on all the men's room walls. When I pout, the whole world tries to make me smile. And everyone always wants to know, who... is... that girl?

Okay guys, listen up. I can read vloski like a Dr Seuss book. And he is without a doubt town. I've like, never been wrong about him.

So, ##vote: Spicydinosaur

For all his posts being about game theory (lynching lurkers, etc.) and none of them having any intention of finding scum.

On June 06 2013 21:43 iVLosK! wrote:

What is it that causes you to have a town read on Skanjab if all he's done is "throw a vote with nothing else?"

On June 06 2013 21:52 iVLosK! wrote:

What if he was successful in lynching you? That seems a pretty good reason to come out of the fold.

Also this "mafia like to hide" shit bothers me, because you're making sweeping generalizations about what everyone does in the same situation. If all mafia acted alike this game would be super easy. Some mafia are just as in-your-face as I can be at times. And it's not just you that's said it, so don't think I'm picking on you.

On June 06 2013 21:53 Skanjab1s wrote:


My posts purpose is to lynch scum, something I haven't seen from you. You criticize me for my post yet it gives you a townread on me? Rather contradictory.

On June 06 2013 21:55 Onegu wrote:
Skanjab what is your biggest problem with spicydino is he has had good post on the lurker issue, I am getting a town vibe from him. The strongest read I have is on iVlosk as town t this point, but a wish he would curse less. xzav is also giving me a very strong town vibe. Umasi is my only scummy read as he fueled the iV rant even after it most likely should have been moved on from it. Also the whole brocuff thing. Also what are your guys thought on finding a serial killer?

On June 07 2013 02:25 Gotard wrote:
After reading everything twice I've came with conclusion that some of you are far from being newbies like me (or you are just really good at pretending which is even worse if you are aren't townies T_T). All in all after some hardcore analysis (aka reading) I sadly do know nothing . Xzavier seemed to be a scum (after following Umasi's accusations) but then he had some awesome pro-town posts. What to do!? What to do!?

On June 07 2013 14:28 Firere345 wrote:
sorry for it being over 24 hours since my last post. I went to sleep right after my last post and have spent all my free time catching up today(which wasn't much). Fortunately, tonight was my last night of having prior commitments, so I will be much more active.

To meow, who asked my opinion of Vlosk a few pages back, he's obv not my top scum read atm, but engaging shitfests isn't the towniest thing to do. As for my current reads, though, Xzav is the only one who would make me really surprize dto flip scum.
Umasi and Gotard don't have any defense against their accusations, so I find it hard to not be biased by thecurrent town consensus. Gut says both bad, Umasi town, Gotard maf, if only for lynching the one guy who we all should agree is mister town.

As for the jester question, the forum I used to play on was very inconsistent. The OP would only state basic roles, yet there would end up being bus drivers or phychics as flips, so I just wanted to make sure that Jest was not a role and that we wouldn't give up a day 1 loss to a jester.

On June 07 2013 21:54 Onegu wrote:


I would really like to hear from him also to see if he really was absent or just lurking. But lets be honest alot of people are sheeping, I think that is just noobish at this point. The thing I have been looking at is offering a thought on someone then sheeping once a majority is on someone else.

On June 07 2013 22:08 Skanjab1s wrote:


He did backtrack though from his initial post, he initially said that if he had to lynch, it would be between Xzav and Umasi, but after being pressured he said that he doesn't actually want Xzav dead.

Then he used that terrible "Well you can't be 100% sure of everyone!" defense to justify him wanting to lynch someone who he had apparently had a townread on.

I'm getting more of a newbie scum vibe than a new-townie vibe from him.

On June 07 2013 02:25 Gotard wrote:
After reading everything twice I've came with conclusion that some of you are far from being newbies like me (or you are just really good at pretending which is even worse if you are aren't townies T_T). All in all after some hardcore analysis (aka reading) I sadly do know nothing . Xzavier seemed to be a scum (after following Umasi's accusations) but then he had some awesome pro-town posts. What to do!? What to do!?

On June 07 2013 22:16 Onegu wrote:



I dont really have that feeling at this point. Has she said this is her first game?   So far people have had some very strong reads and I dont think that makes you scummy. Why would scum want to say strong reads at this point when just sheeping is a better way of hideing.

On June 07 2013 22:42 Onegu wrote:


I dont have a problem with someone not being confident in thier reads, what I have a problem with is when someone makes a read then when they see something else they drop thier read and sheep the majority.

On June 07 2013 23:22 Firere345 wrote:
Well, Meow, I kinda need to sleep sometimes, Last night I posted that and then went to sleep, only waking up a few minutes ago.




What I want to know is why your top two scum reads are also the two you saw as potential allies, and also why at that point I hadn't made the list . You kinda disrupted the flow of the thread with your post suspecting Xzav, which in itself isn't a scum indication if you can defend it. But unfortunately your only defense of it I've seen is



Few P-T posts during first day?
What about this one?
+ Show Spoiler +
Or this one?
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##Vote: Gotard
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On June 08 2013 01:00 fferyllt wrote:
I would prefer a Yavannah lynch, myself. But, of the currently viable wagons, IMO Firere looks the most scummy.

The best I've gotten from my arguments about Yavannah is "maybe d2", so I'm going to be very disappointed, SpicyDinosaur, if you don't help pursue that without some damn good reasons why.

On June 08 2013 01:06 Gotard wrote:


It was random vote from my scum list I will change it later if I will have any chance to stay alive.

On June 08 2013 06:30 fferyllt wrote:




Big change on Yavanna between these two posts without much additional input from Yavanna.

Was it something I said?

On June 07 2013 16:25 LoneMeow wrote:
Good morning, and sorry for being a bit inactive yesterday, had a rather exciting day IRL.

On June 08 2013 15:42 LoneMeow wrote:
Crap, running out of time.

On June 08 2013 16:38 Xzavier wrote:
Hno like when i try to think of gotards posts as if he were scum: its suicidal. Like how stupid do you hav to be to consistantly attack the confermed town. firere's flip also supports him being town. Is it safe to say no scum bussed firere? cuz he only got lynched by one vote? this gives us a list of people to check on.

Somebody tell me if the above is correct logic pls?

On June 09 2013 04:01 Umasi wrote:
I'm back. I derped and didn't see gotard on firere, or at least it didn't register, so I'd accept that he's not scum, but I think the case on him pre-flip was rock solid by xzav. That entire part is why I think he is/was scummy, we talked about it for quite a while.
That said, I'll look at lone meow and see what I think about him since he's the center of discussion.

On June 07 2013 04:27 Umasi wrote:
Why wouldn't newbie scum read the rules equally carefully? A newbie town and a newbie scum have equal interest in the setup of the game, so using it to try to indicate if someone is mafia or town seems irrelevant.
Unless there is a reason I don't see that town would pay more attention to the OP than a scum!


I think commenting on how it seems too easy, and telling us to wait, is more interesting, because it feels like he's trying to be inclusive here, when really it was me talking to myself, getting jabbed by iV, and xzav being logical...
And I don't know why he felt like part of that group?

On June 07 2013 04:36 Umasi wrote:
I think that the jester question is null, I think that his telling us to be more careful is scummy.

On June 07 2013 14:43 Umasi wrote:
Firere, I don't even know what I'm fucking ACCUSED of, and if someone would spell it out, I'd be happy to comply with their demands. Gotard IS aware of what he was accused of, and has not complied.

On June 07 2013 14:47 Umasi wrote:
Also, Firere, to me it looks like you just came in, promised to be more active, pointed out something that everyone has pointed out, and given an excuse for asking the jester question. Thank you for explaining the jester question! That said, if you AREN'T more active in the future, it's going to be annoying as shit.
So please be more active in the future.

On June 08 2013 00:02 Umasi wrote:
Spicy, I agree that Firerer looks suspicious, because he hasn't posted anything of worth yet, but I think it's okay to give him a bit of time to come contribute. I don't want to be distracted from a Gotard lynch today unless someone posts a super rock solid defense of him.
But if Firere hasn't posted anything of worth by the next lynch period, I'll happily consider him.

On June 09 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:

Just food for thought, but if this is before people truly looked into Firere as a lynch candidate and "merely someone scummy", why would Lonemeow as scum talk about him as his strongest scum read? I don't think it was an attempt to build town cred/bus/whatever the term is, because the wagon hadn't even really started.
That said, it really was just slipped in there, and he didn't assert it at all, but it really throws off my read on him, which was "probably scum".

On June 09 2013 08:59 fferyllt wrote:
I’m also a little concerned that he (and a couple others) showed no paranoia to speak of about me. I even posted an intentional clanger or two and got hardly a murmur from anyone. That lack raised my neck hairs a tad.

On June 09 2013 10:46 fferyllt wrote:
Re the bandwagons, I would half expect the remaining scum to be spread out, not on the same bandwagon.

On June 09 2013 11:01 fferyllt wrote:

If Firere actually knows me well enough to call me ffery then the scum team likely had at least one competent and experienced player on board day 1.

On June 10 2013 05:49 Gotard wrote:


But why would be do that as mafia? If you do things like that and person that you request to kill turns out to be town you are in really bad position next day.

On June 10 2013 06:00 fferyllt wrote:


There are a few other things that worry me a little about StimAddict. I touched on them in my wall.

On June 08 2013 08:39 StiMaDDict wrote:

My vote is not changing from LoneMeow until he is lynched or I die from mafia, but if Gotard flips town and Firere345 is scum, I'm fucking killing this cat!

On June 10 2013 06:26 iVLosK! wrote:

That's a nice summary post you've got there. Sums up the thread with observations and calls for others to act, but doesn't say much. Did your scum coach teach you to do that?

Also, you're not getting the full mason logs. You're getting what I decide is appropriate to share with the general populace. Don't particularly care what you think is suspicious.

On June 10 2013 08:36 fferyllt wrote:



A bussing hadn't started yet on Firere? When do you think he was bussed?

On June 10 2013 08:46 fferyllt wrote:
SpicyDinosaur, could you give a short rundown of your current scumpile? Who's in it. Who's your top pick, Why?

On June 07 2013 16:25 LoneMeow wrote:
Good morning, and sorry for being a bit inactive yesterday, had a rather exciting day IRL.

On June 10 2013 22:01 LoneMeow wrote:
We really need more activity here or scum will get an easy win. So let's talk about lynches. Who are your top reads right now, iVLosK!?

On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:


If you look at the posts, I've been one of the most active posters in the last 10 hours or so, but it's not useful unless I can get others to talk too.



Mostly his bringing a new case so close to lynch deadline with two wagons is not very towny. It was practically impossible for me to get lynched at that point, so the case was mostly just disruptive and could have helped Firere345 avoid getting lynched if a few votes had changed from him to me. I also massively dislike him not participating in almost any other discussion beside tunneling me, because that makes him a huge liability for the rest of the game if I get mislynched.

I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which.

On June 11 2013 00:08 LoneMeow wrote:


He was about the only one around, so I could hardly initiate interactions with anyone else :/

He's also on my list of suspicious people, though not at the top at the moment. I really didn't like his vote on day 1 being outside the wagons, that's somewhat counterproductive for town.

On June 11 2013 00:30 LoneMeow wrote:


He never explained why he didn't believe in the wagons, that makes voting outside look bad to me. In fact, reading through what he said I notice that he hardly commented on Firere345 at all - it looks pretty bad to be honest.

On June 07 2013 15:28 Onegu wrote:

I think he has to be paranoid at this point more than one person has thought him scum. I am thinking gotard may be town, I am not convinced yet. Why does being paranoid point you toward town?

On June 07 2013 15:56 Onegu wrote:
Ok maybe gotard isnt town but I dont have good enough read on him. I just have a stronger feel for umasi being scum. To me he just changes opinons so much and jumps from point to point and person to person so much. maybe he is paranoid but that just makes me think he might be afraid people are on to him.

On June 07 2013 21:54 Onegu wrote:
I would really like to hear from him also to see if he really was absent or just lurking. But lets be honest alot of people are sheeping, I think that is just noobish at this point. The thing I have been looking at is offering a thought on someone then sheeping once a majority is on someone else.

On June 08 2013 01:55 Onegu wrote:
Just so you guys know I will be sleeping in the next 2 hours. Iv can you give a good reason for conforming to votes for your last 2 votes please. I would like to see if firere comes back and offers some more reasoning and defense. Xzav and yavannah what are your thoughts on skan, firere, and umasi?

On June 11 2013 02:55 Umasi wrote:
So the people on Gotard on day one were me, xzav, firere, and lonemeow. I am discounting the possibility of a bus because I don't feel like a bus happened! I think that all three scum were on this wagon, unless yavanna is scum and /afked forever.

On June 11 2013 02:55 Umasi wrote:
Lonemeow, by sheer process of fucking elimination, if i think xzav isn't scum, and I KNOW I'm town, and Firere IS scum, and you I think you are scum, this is you defending Yavanna.

On June 11 2013 02:56 Umasi wrote:
If you do have doubts about Xzav, go reread day one and ask yourself why scum would play like that, and if you can come up with strong reasoning say it. I could not come up with strong reasoning and thus think he's town, although it would be cool if he got back in here.

On June 06 2013 13:01 Umasi wrote:
We, as town, do not want emotional. We want thought and logic.

On June 11 2013 04:34 Umasi wrote:
Then push me and convince town, you asshole. Don't just *guys he's scum *point point**
don't just sit back and shitfling.

On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which.

On June 11 2013 07:30 Umasi wrote:
What about you spicy.
Do you think scum bussed day one in that close vote?

On June 11 2013 07:40 Umasi wrote:
A follow-up, because I obviously think that they did.
What benefit was there to scum bussing that would outweigh one of their own getting lynched?

On June 11 2013 07:40 Umasi wrote:
A follow-up, because I obviously think that they did.
What benefit was there to scum bussing that would outweigh one of their own getting lynched?

On June 11 2013 10:43 iVLosK! wrote:
I never like it one of my so-so reads directs blue actions.

On June 11 2013 12:06 fferyllt wrote:


I would say forget Umasi, for investigation given Yavanna's interactions with/about him that I posted earlier.

What do you think, Spicydinosaur?

On June 11 2013 12:20 fferyllt wrote:


I think her posts, which all put him in a bad light even before that final post where she built on my comments, make him a lower priority than some others.

Do you think her posts sucking up to Xzav semi-clear him as well?

She made one comment to Onagu, and that's the level of interaction that I tend to find associative, but aside from that one hellaciously defensive post he made, he hasn't pinged much.

I should look over Onagu's day 2 posts again.

I don't think she would have interacted with me at all if I hadn't written a wall to/about her.

There was a comment she made about iV as well.

On June 07 2013 02:34 Yavanna wrote:


I like this a lot. Spicy, you said to pressure lurkers. This is where I’d want to put some pressure. Where you at Firere? There are a couple other lurky fuckers still, but this guy shows up, randomly agrees with Umasi’s post but he never follows up, in fact he doesn’t explain anything. At all. That bugs me.

On June 11 2013 20:20 Onegu wrote:


Sorry re reading the OP it is possible if we have a SK they can choose cop immunity, so we may still not be able to confirm town...

On June 06 2013 23:15 Onegu wrote:



Ok 2 things the first he kept the iV thing going on alot lomger than it needed to be. Secomd and the thing that made me feel the most was he would make a statement and when the majority had different ideals he would conform to them. This is what feels like he is scum.

On June 07 2013 21:54 Onegu wrote:


I would really like to hear from him also to see if he really was absent or just lurking. But lets be honest alot of people are sheeping, I think that is just noobish at this point. The thing I have been looking at is offering a thought on someone then sheeping once a majority is on someone else.

On June 07 2013 22:16 Onegu wrote:



I dont really have that feeling at this point. Has she said this is her first game? So far people have had some very strong reads and I dont think that makes you scummy. Why would scum want to say strong reads at this point when just sheeping is a better way of hideing.

On June 12 2013 03:12 Onegu wrote:
And if you want to look at someone defending firere and yavanna look at xzavier filter.

On June 12 2013 09:41 fferyllt wrote:
There are other possibilities.

On June 12 2013 10:24 Umasi wrote:
why would we have any reason to think there is a serial killer?
"what if"
"what if"
literally zero evidence supports it. There may very well just NOT BE A SERIAL KILLER.
Fuck, if no one claims, the only thing we can be sure of is a masoner (because he flipped) and a cop (because there was a godfather)
Worrying about the SK at this point is entirely irrelevant. We can worry about it once we see two kills and no vigilante claim

On June 12 2013 09:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Well either the jail keeper protected the right person from attack or they jailed the attacker.

Also I think we can rule out SK at this point.

On June 12 2013 09:41 fferyllt wrote:
There are other possibilities.

On June 12 2013 09:54 Spicydinosaur wrote:


True, veteran took the hit, medic healed.

.

On June 12 2013 11:11 iVLosK! wrote:
Oh shit that was probably the jail, lol.

Somebody tried to shoot me and I was jailed. Thanks, Jailer. You're a peach.

On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote:
Who got a message on night 1?

On June 10 2013 01:56 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Ok caught up on the reading and here are some thoughts.

1. I want to see the complete mason logs between skanjab1 and iVLosK! as a partial reveal just feels a bit suspicious.

2. (speculation) Skan was probably killed because scum feared that the more vocal townies were protected at night. Or Vlosk is uber pro scum and had me fooled (hope not).

3. We only had 1 night kill so there is less likely a chance of an sk. If a jailor was on someone last night I would say keep up the roleblock just to be safe.

4. No vigi kill can mean a few things... either we don't have a vig, the vig didn't want to shoot, or they are unable to shoot till night 2.

5. Yavanna needs to speak up a lot today and the fact she didn't vote is quite troubling (as is the fact she is still alive).

6. As for lone... I want to see more of his posts before I throw a vote on him. Also Lone... who are your scum reads atm.

On June 12 2013 11:22 iVLosK! wrote:


Which mod sent you yours? Mine is from OO and it just says "You were roleblocked." End of message.

On June 12 2013 11:28 fferyllt wrote:

But it was a role block, not a jail keep message?

On June 12 2013 11:43 Xzavier wrote:
How many blues are normally in a setup like this? One is dead, were assuming another is a town roleblocker/medic/vigi?
.

On June 12 2013 12:00 fferyllt wrote:
That happy thought killed the thread.

On June 12 2013 12:04 Onegu wrote:


Actually I went back and checked he makes 2 posts with just fluff after day 2 results then nothing since. Possible he just afk'd and didnt make a action...

On June 12 2013 12:21 fferyllt wrote:
SpicyDinosaur how do you feel about Onego? Pretty confident he's town or not?

On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?

On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:


okay got it.

So its jailer/medic.

But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.

So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.

Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.

Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.

On June 13 2013 11:02 Xzavier wrote:


But couldnt in the same way, iVlosk claim to be jailed (but is really scum) and have that be the explination of why there was no kill. so he claims the KP was on him instead of him being unable to preform the kill??

This is why i think its a better idea, in other words. if the jailer comes out and says he held somebody else, do it and we win? or could it be that he is mindfucking gaming us and he didnt even put forth a KP at all? im not saying hes the scum, but im saying that he could have been roleblocked himself and claim that it saved him, instead of preventing him from shooting. Idk, this is my thoughts. Im not accusing him, but just making a statement that we cant take his claim to be 100% townie hes town all up in this town.

make sense?

of course, the above is almost certainly not applicable. as the jailer should have already come out and explained it, and then we kill him and win. (otherwise he is making this claim for bullshits and impeding the search for scum, which makes no sense)

On June 13 2013 11:07 fferyllt wrote:
As scum, I would not hesitate to bus a scum partner. If I thought the wagon was going to go through, I would get on it before it was a foregone conclusion.

I have literally done this minutes before the town pile-on started and looked like I was in front and leading the way. More than once.

If I were scum, I most likelly would have been on the Firere wagon. I would have gotten on it a little bit later than when I did, but early enough not to look like I"d given up on the wagon fading away.

This stuff about nobody bussing Firere is not surefire.

Not

at

all

On June 13 2013 11:32 fferyllt wrote:
Extremely mixed.

I have been exploring a lot of paranoid possibilities today, and I can see a paranoid-as-fuck case for iV being scum. It's not the only paranoid case I'm mulling over.

On June 13 2013 21:41 iVLosK! wrote:

Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.

On June 14 2013 07:02 Onegu wrote:
Spicy can you please post a case not just say you feeling, and gotard can you read posts and not just sheep votes?

On June 12 2013 01:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Here are some thoughts on Onegu.

Onegu and Yavanna have this conversation early in the game



Yavanna seems to be wanting to get Onegu to explain his posts more in a very odd fashion.

In this next quote, Onegu down plays my criticism of firere by saying its just noobish.



This next quote is Onegu down playing fferyllt's criticism of Yavanna.



The last two quotes I think are far more important than the interaction with Yavanna as she was trying to be friendly with everyone. The subtle defense of two non confirmed scum has me questioning whether his vote for Umasi was just to put a vote on someone else so he wouldnt look suspicious on the wagon.

On June 14 2013 07:35 fferyllt wrote:
You think town would have a masoner, a jailer and a cop?

sounds pretty townsided by what I've learned about TL standards.

I will think about it.

On June 14 2013 07:42 Onegu wrote:
So you are going off day one interactions with people who barely posted, so after this you think I bussed firere and yavanna as I also made a case on her night one...

On June 14 2013 07:52 Onegu wrote:


Except it is the same thing as a bus because if my vote goes on gotard he is saved, me not saveing him is the same thing as a bussing him. As in i threw him under the bus because I didnt save him...

On June 15 2013 09:55 fferyllt wrote:
There is not much to it.

Tunnelling and survivalistic. Also his posts just come off as careful. Even with the vote stuff last night, his posting was unemotional and controlled. Which could be personality. i thought he would at least show a crack in the exterior, though.

On June 15 2013 10:17 iVLosK! wrote:
Damn kids. Anyone want to explain what makes Onegu more scum to you then say, Umasi?

On June 16 2013 00:08 Onegu wrote:
Is the only reason we arent looking at spicy because of his claim to be jailed night 1?

On June 16 2013 01:29 Onegu wrote:


Just asking. And since the jail claim night 1 cannot be verified, just asking if that was the only thing.

On June 16 2013 23:58 Onegu wrote:
Oh btw other then my night one kill choice was my night 2 and 3 targets ok?

On June 17 2013 00:09 Gotard wrote:

That was my strategy to get almost lynched.