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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 08 2013 01:21 GMT
#721
But gj town for lynching scum
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 08 2013 01:23 GMT
#722
Thoughts on LoneMeow guys?
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 01:26 GMT
#723
On June 08 2013 10:23 Skanjab1s wrote:
Thoughts on LoneMeow guys?

I need to look over his posts and think about experience level. newb scum is a lot more likely to entangle themselves when a scum partner is going down. Though being a mafia PR made firere maybe look worth the risk.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 01:32 GMT
#724
The LoneMeow filter link on page 1 is broken.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 01:33 GMT
#725
Just btw, it would hilarious if LoneMeow flips scum given that Umasi randomly voted him at the beginning of the game XD
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 08 2013 01:45 GMT
#726
On June 08 2013 10:32 fferyllt wrote:
The LoneMeow filter link on page 1 is broken.

I am also getting errors, the OP has not changed.
And yes, you may speak at night in this game.

Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 01:51 GMT
#727
If LoneMeow is scum, I think he's experienced scum.

- mafia theory re MYLO/LYLO in his first game post.

- pushing Umasi to build a case. This was the post where he said he was tempted to disagree about iV. That language seemed odd to me. Sort of hedgy given iV looked town as fuck with his button-pushing.

- direct interaction with Firere.

On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 12:40 Firere345 wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:

I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.

At this point I'm leaning towards scum.


Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction.


Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!?


This is pretty interesting:

On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing.


It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash.


And then his vote:

On June 08 2013 07:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Gotard's posts since the original incident make him look more scummy rather than less. And re-thinking what Firere345 actually wrote made me realize my read on him was very weak. So I think I'd rather lynch Gotard after all.

##Vote: Gotard


He didn't switch his vote. He held onto it. Gotard looked like a slam dunk at one point. Firere only had one vote on him when I started arguing against a Gotard lynch. Mine was the second vote on Firere and then they started to pile up over the next couple pages IIRC.

The Gotard wagon didn't start to soften after LoneMeow's vote, though, so I'm not sure. Would be a ballsy move trying to singlehandedly change the lynch direction at that particular point in time.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 01:52 GMT
#728
EBWOP

didn't start to soften until after LoneMeow's vote.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 02:09 GMT
#729
What is MYLO/LYLO?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 02:16 GMT
#730
On June 08 2013 10:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
LoneMeow looks really bad now

To add to Stimaddict's case:

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing.


It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash.


Lightly FoS's Firere345, to try to distance himself, but suddenly, when there is a chance to save Fire, he strangely thinks that Gotard's recent posts were more scummy than townie (which is the opposite of what I thought) and declares his read on Fire "weak" (no reason was given for this change, and Firere hadn't said anything to make himself seem less suspicious):

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 07:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Gotard's posts since the original incident make him look more scummy rather than less. And re-thinking what Firere345 actually wrote made me realize my read on him was very weak. So I think I'd rather lynch Gotard after all.

##Vote: Gotard


Basically, he does a complete 180 for little reason, when the chance that he could save Firere arose.


Where was the sudden chance? What changed in the gamestate before that vote?
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 02:21 GMT
#731
MYLO = mislynch and lose. Basically a 3-1 or 4-2 town v scum scenario in this game. Town outnumber scum by 2. If town mislynch, then they are down to outnumbering scum by 1 at nightfall, and then parity will be reached with the night kill. This assumes no town night actions can prevent the scum kill.

LYLO = lynch or lose. This comes about when town outnumber scum by 1. so 2-1 or 3-2 probably in this game. If town doesn't lynch scum that day town automatically lose.

If we have an SK then the calculations get more complicated.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 02:23 GMT
#732
On June 08 2013 11:21 fferyllt wrote:
MYLO = mislynch and lose. Basically a 3-1 or 4-2 town v scum scenario in this game. Town outnumber scum by 2. If town mislynch, then they are down to outnumbering scum by 1 at nightfall, and then parity will be reached with the night kill. This assumes no town night actions can prevent the scum kill.

LYLO = lynch or lose. This comes about when town outnumber scum by 1. so 2-1 or 3-2 probably in this game. If town doesn't lynch scum that day town automatically lose.

If we have an SK then the calculations get more complicated.


Thanks for clarification.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 03:51 GMT
#733
On June 06 2013 14:58 Xzavier wrote:
The reason he started shitflinging was so people could start forming reads on everybody. In town vs town arguements you can form reads based on how people react to them.

doesnt matter if the arguments are t v t or t v s or s v s.

the reactions will still reflect motivation.

can't believe I'm rereading this on my phone. 2nd power outage of the day.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 04:06 GMT
#734
Lonemeow is looking in a rough spot. and im happy i felt a confidence waver with my gotard case (pretty much the moment after i posted it, cuz he would have to be fucking retarded to be scum)

Lonemeow is my proirity 1 atm.

Umasi is looking like town to me. or atleast certainly not scum, he posts too much and contributes.

Spicydinosaur had an interesting filter that im going to review over, anyway time to read all Firere's posts
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 04:07 GMT
#735
And GJ fellow townsmen :D <3
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 04:10 GMT
#736
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?
Mafia :D
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 08 2013 04:41 GMT
#737
On June 07 2013 14:28 Firere345 wrote:
sorry for it being over 24 hours since my last post. I went to sleep right after my last post and have spent all my free time catching up today(which wasn't much). Fortunately, tonight was my last night of having prior commitments, so I will be much more active.

To meow, who asked my opinion of Vlosk a few pages back, he's obv not my top scum read atm, but engaging shitfests isn't the towniest thing to do. As for my current reads, though, Xzav is the only one who would make me really surprize dto flip scum.
Umasi and Gotard don't have any defense against their accusations, so I find it hard to not be biased by thecurrent town consensus. Gut says both bad, Umasi town, Gotard maf, if only for lynching the one guy who we all should agree is mister town.

As for the jester question, the forum I used to play on was very inconsistent. The OP would only state basic roles, yet there would end up being bus drivers or phychics as flips, so I just wanted to make sure that Jest was not a role and that we wouldn't give up a day 1 loss to a jester.

some firere reads. when I see three reads by confirmed scum my gut wants to believe 1 is scum. don't like choosing from this list so I may tell my gut to stfu.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 08 2013 04:44 GMT
#738
On June 08 2013 13:10 Xzavier wrote:
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?


Yeah I got that also, but I didnt really get a gotard being scum feeling in the first place, but I had a null feel on fire also so I dont know where that leaves me. I would like lonemeow to respond some more before placing a strong read on him. I just dont like how skan just refused to give good answers to me. I still have a scum read on umasi at this point, but mybe my bandwagon thing without good reason is just off base.
Try TL Mafia!!!
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 08 2013 05:06 GMT
#739
Good morning, and good job on the lynch. I'll need a while to read everything that has happened but if anyone's here feel free to ask what's on your mind in the meanwhile.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 08 2013 05:38 GMT
#740
On June 08 2013 13:10 Xzavier wrote:
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?


After alive vs innovation imma read a few filters and make some posts
Mafia :D
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