EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XLII - Page 35
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fferyllt
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Onegu
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
English is my second language and shit, on top of that I had to go back and forth to the airport yesterday. I skipped the middle section concerning Gotard, so no comment on that until later on. As of right now, LoneMeow strikes me as a mafia. ##vote: LoneMeow On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote: Why? Make a case if you have a good read. I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative. On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote: Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!? First thing that stuck out to me was that in both cases he is eager for someone other than himself to make a case against iVLosK! while holding back himself. He, not exactly encouraged, but led Umasi to go on with his rant on iV (which caused much dilema later on..) but on the very next line said that he disagrees(?) to what Umasi's not existing case.. Also despite the fact his comment on iV's behavior sounds somewhat reasonable, he doesn't make any case or assumption; only going as far as to say that iV's attitude is neither indication of town or scum. His second quote asks Firere345 whether he changed his opinion which appears odd as well. Forget the fact that I have no fucking clue what Firere345 is saying or why he is commenting on Umasi, but why is LoneMeow asking Firere345 if he still thinks iVLosK! is scum. I went through Firere345 filter and he never proposed anything like that before. Given it should have been much more reasonable for LoneMeow to ask Umasi or Xzavier such question not Firere345 because they were voting on iVLosK!. On June 06 2013 15:31 LoneMeow wrote: Do you still think he's scum though? If so, I'd like to see a short case explaining why, perhaps you can convince me? Once again, he keeps asking for case on iVLosK! that he neither support nor argue. He seems little too eager to hope on a bandwagon given the chance though. On June 07 2013 16:25 LoneMeow wrote: Good morning, and sorry for being a bit inactive yesterday, had a rather exciting day IRL. Leaning slightly on town. Sure, he is somewhat abrasive but he was actively driving discussion. Definitely not a top lynch candidate for me right now. I was thinking of pushing you a bit after this, because when you posted this you hadn't stated any real opinions of your own besides sucking up to Xzavier, however your later posts are better so I'm okay with it for now. This I don't like at all. Looks a lot like trying to fish for an opinion to sheep on when you don't state who you actually suspect, and that I find rather scummy. I can go much more in detail. On fferyllt direct question, he once again slip passes. Nothing definite that will hurt him later. No concrete background to support his claim. Either he is as lazy as I am or he doesn't want to give anything away. I might add who is your top lynch candidate. Gosh, LoneMeow's comment on Yavanna is just plain weird. Maybe it's just me but even though Yavanna hadn't made a scum read until then but he(or she?) gave couple of town reads on people involved around iVLosK! conflict. She cleared herself pretty well when asked why he(she) is being too nice. In contrary, LoneMeow hasn't made a real opinions of his own. And again he doesn't antagonize Yavanna. Last on I'm not fully comprehending.. On June 07 2013 19:05 LoneMeow wrote: Gotard's posts are extremely weird, jumping in and straight away pushing lynch on you who most seem to find the strongest town read at the moment. Even weirder that he's pushing his second best scum read instead of the best. On the other hand, this is such a suicidal move that it makes me wonder if scum would dare do something like that. Your case on him seems pretty good, but I still worry that he might be just overeager townie since as said, the move seems too suicidal for scum to dare try. I'm fine with lyching him if he doesn't provide better input, though. On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote: It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so. This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash. Even though I have no idea what Gotard did but I can guess a little. It seems Xzavier, who is viewed by majority as town, pointed out something minor about Gotard and Gotard, who wasn't as active as Xzavier immediately engaged him with a vote and scum read possibly. (Correct me if I'm completely off the track) So what Lone Meow decides to do is basically say, "Oh this guy (Gotard) is doing something that is suicidal. He is likely a scum. But wait, this is too suicidal to be something a scum would do. He might be a townie after all." Lastly, his scum read on Firere345 is just plain weak. It seems to me as when he was asked he had to make a reply so he picked one of the lurker. He can probably further That's it for now. ..shit, I have to go to the airport again. | ||
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
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iVLosK!
Djibouti545 Posts
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iVLosK!
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fferyllt
United States317 Posts
On June 06 2013 21:38 Spicydinosaur wrote: I just did a little theory to get the game going. Wasn't much discussion going on before I went to bed. And if you are going to vote me, at least get my theory right... I said pressure lurkers. Anyways, here are some thoughts. @Firere345 seems to be only sheeping. He agrees with Umasi's post about iVLosK! and then asks a pointless mod question about a jester. Reading the first page of the thread tells you what roles are possible in this game and jester is NOT on it. So why ask it? A true newbie to this game would probably read that first page up and down multiple times. So far he feels pretty scummy. @Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now. @Umasi is my most worrisome read right now. He is generating some discussion but a lot of his posts are full of fluff. Taking a wait and see on him. @Yavanna strongest town read atm. Generates discussion and asks good questions. On June 07 2013 23:27 Spicydinosaur wrote: Just went through Yavanna's filter and it doesn't look pretty. At the start she's either posting spam or asking others questions. The questions are alright but she has no follow up with them... and that indicates someone posting to look active without really contributing... aka scummy. Later on it turns into full blown sheeping of Xzav. She really only has 1 good post about Umasi at the end. Not sure right now if this is indicative of a new player finding her stride or calculated scum. Going to take a wait and see on her for D2. Big change on Yavanna between these two posts without much additional input from Yavanna. Was it something I said? | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On June 08 2013 06:30 fferyllt wrote: Big change on Yavanna between these two posts without much additional input from Yavanna. Was it something I said? It was in part. When I wrote the first post I did a glance view of her filter and came up townie. After you were suspicious I did a complete filter dive and caught a bunch of things I missed before. It was a lot of little things that started adding up. | ||
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United States382 Posts
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fferyllt
United States317 Posts
On June 06 2013 23:15 Onegu wrote: Ok 2 things the first he kept the iV thing going on alot lomger than it needed to be. Secomd and the thing that made me feel the most was he would make a statement and when the majority had different ideals he would conform to them. This is what feels like he is scum. scum are not one size fits all in terms of behaviors, but in general I've found that scum players are slow to change stance, and sometimes let town choose a direction before committing. Not a single town player - scum movement usually is trying to blend in when the town herd gets moving. To me, Umasi followed Xzac a little too readily to be scum. His hanging on to the iV scum read has that scum-reluctance to change stance feel, but ranting about it after other players moved on is not something I'd expect scum to do. Scum players tend to keep their emotional reactions kinda flat because they tend reread and rethink every word. These are generalizations. ymmv. void where prohibited | ||
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LoneMeow
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
Im on my lunch i might get another break before deadline. The people who attacked usami relentlessly i plan on looking into. im having intedrnal debates over gotard. idk y he wouldnt change his view. like if he was town it means hes curious about me and uses bad logic. if hes mafia hes fucking retarded. Either way its obvious hes a noob. idk. ##unvote ##vote firere345 i dont think anybody is that stupid. Well it took my entire break to say this. | ||
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
##unvote ##vote gotard the claim on firere is weak. im going with my gut and my case. I really want to look into lonemeow tomorrow | ||
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Gotard
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
On June 08 2013 07:10 LoneMeow wrote: Gotard's posts since the original incident make him look more scummy rather than less. And re-thinking what Firere345 actually wrote made me realize my read on him was very weak. So I think I'd rather lynch Gotard after all. ##Vote: Gotard Bandwagon much? If you are going to (follow the general flow of votes) anyway, at least give your reasons. What exactly in Gotard's posts did you find scummy? What of Firere345 posts make you realize your read is weak? Yes, it was weak to start with: but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so. but what Firere345 posted so far does not contradict your theory. He posted 5 times so far and most of them are indeed parallel to the general consensus at the time. In conclusion, I find it suspicious that you would just cast your vote on Gotard so very close to the deadline without a solid support of your own finding but rather follow the majority of the vote, a move I would identify as a bandwagon mafia would make trying to help out + Show Spoiler + | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
LoneMeow (1): Skanjab1s (0): iVLosK! (0): Spicydinosaur (0): Firere345 (5): Spicydinosaur, Gotard (4): StimmAddict (0): Umasi (1): Onegu Not Voting: tE_, Yavanna Firere345 is currently set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory. This is a plurality lynch. The deadline is at [unparsable timestamp format], in [unparsable timestamp format] If there's a mistake, let me know! | ||
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Firere345
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Firere345
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fferyllt
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