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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 07 2013 16:55 GMT
#661
Just so you guys know I will be sleeping in the next 2 hours. Iv can you give a good reason for conforming to votes for your last 2 votes please. I would like to see if firere comes back and offers some more reasoning and defense. Xzav and yavannah what are your thoughts on skan, firere, and umasi?
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fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 07 2013 16:56 GMT
#662
On June 07 2013 22:16 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 21:44 fferyllt wrote:
On June 07 2013 16:40 Onegu wrote:
Ebwop

Say who or what you are thinking dont just fish for ideas.

The person I am thinking about is Yavannah.

Her posts did get better after I pushed her a little yesterday. As I was driving home last night and thinking about the game I was trying to figure out what it is about her play that still bothers me. And I realized it was the contrast with some of the other players who said they are new to the game. She seems so sure of her town reads.



I dont really have that feeling at this point. Has she said this is her first game?   So far people have had some very strong reads and I dont think that makes you scummy. Why would scum want to say strong reads at this point when just sheeping is a better way of hideing.

Well see, that's the thing. She IS sheeping. Her town reads were similar to the reads that others had already posted or strongly implied. If town sentiment changes about some of those players it will be easy to backtrack and go along with it

Putting out a strong read early, especially when it goes against the sentiment in the game, is something that the average scum player doesn't want to do. And it's absolutely what town players want to do because they are looking for scum, not for the feel of the room.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:00 GMT
#663
On June 08 2013 01:42 fferyllt wrote:
Hey iVL I'd like to hear your thoughts about Yavannah. You're both in my neverlynch pile and you are game-savvy so you're a player I'd be willing to test my reads with.


Asking good questions, responded well to Umasi saying she was "suspiciously nice". Exploring good avenues that I hadn't even thought of with questioning and logical thought.

Calls her pressure vote a pressure vote. A vote stops being pressure the moment you call it that. Noobie mistake, I'd say.

Has dropped off of the map recently.

Likely town.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#664
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.
Mafia :D
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#665
On June 08 2013 01:55 Onegu wrote:
Just so you guys know I will be sleeping in the next 2 hours. Iv can you give a good reason for conforming to votes for your last 2 votes please. I would like to see if firere comes back and offers some more reasoning and defense. Xzav and yavannah what are your thoughts on skan, firere, and umasi?

EVeryone conforms to votes unless you're the very first person to vote for a player. In a game of 13 people a majority vote might be 7 players. Does that mean 6 players are scummy for following what that guy said?

I've been fairly active and outspoken in saying that all of the people I've jumped to and from are on my scumdar.

See below,
On June 07 2013 13:55 iVLosK! wrote:
If I could lynch 3 people in order right now:

Gotard
Umasi
That guy whose name is like frefre or something. I dunno.

The fact that I'm jumping between 3 people who I said I wanted to lynch based on new posts coming from each of them isn't really all that surprising.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 07 2013 17:07 GMT
#666
On June 08 2013 02:00 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 01:42 fferyllt wrote:
Hey iVL I'd like to hear your thoughts about Yavannah. You're both in my neverlynch pile and you are game-savvy so you're a player I'd be willing to test my reads with.


Asking good questions, responded well to Umasi saying she was "suspiciously nice". Exploring good avenues that I hadn't even thought of with questioning and logical thought.

Calls her pressure vote a pressure vote. A vote stops being pressure the moment you call it that. Noobie mistake, I'd say.

Has dropped off of the map recently.

Likely town.

Maybe.

I thought the questions lacked followt hrough, but that could be newb too.

I pointed out the futility of indicating votes are for pressure purposes when SpicyDinosaur (I think that's who...not going to check) posted something similar about pressuring lurkers quite early in the game, though. Maybe that comment would stand out as something not to do to newb scum more than to newb town.

Noted, and thanks.

Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 17:12 GMT
#667
also i think fferyllt is 100% town. biggest town read by far. Just gonna put that here somewhere. He has explained actions, clarified everything for people. generally done a shit-ton of work to make this a much better pro-town environment.
Mafia :D
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:13 GMT
#668
On June 08 2013 02:07 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 02:00 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 08 2013 01:42 fferyllt wrote:
Hey iVL I'd like to hear your thoughts about Yavannah. You're both in my neverlynch pile and you are game-savvy so you're a player I'd be willing to test my reads with.


Asking good questions, responded well to Umasi saying she was "suspiciously nice". Exploring good avenues that I hadn't even thought of with questioning and logical thought.

Calls her pressure vote a pressure vote. A vote stops being pressure the moment you call it that. Noobie mistake, I'd say.

Has dropped off of the map recently.

Likely town.

Maybe.

I thought the questions lacked followt hrough, but that could be newb too.

I pointed out the futility of indicating votes are for pressure purposes when SpicyDinosaur (I think that's who...not going to check) posted something similar about pressuring lurkers quite early in the game, though. Maybe that comment would stand out as something not to do to newb scum more than to newb town.

Noted, and thanks.


Not to say that scum can't ask questions. But I just don't see those kind of questions coming from a scum player whose never played a game of mafia before.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 17:14 GMT
#669
On June 08 2013 02:12 Xzavier wrote:
also i think fferyllt is 100% town. biggest town read by far. Just gonna put that here somewhere. He has explained actions, clarified everything for people. generally done a shit-ton of work to make this a much better pro-town environment.

Keeping your town reads to yourself whenever possible keeps your buddies alive longer.

You just explained to mafia why they should kill her tonight.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 07 2013 17:14 GMT
#670
On June 08 2013 02:05 Xzavier wrote:
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.

The bolded was a dumb thing to post.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 07 2013 17:15 GMT
#671
On June 08 2013 02:05 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 01:55 Onegu wrote:
Just so you guys know I will be sleeping in the next 2 hours. Iv can you give a good reason for conforming to votes for your last 2 votes please. I would like to see if firere comes back and offers some more reasoning and defense. Xzav and yavannah what are your thoughts on skan, firere, and umasi?

EVeryone conforms to votes unless you're the very first person to vote for a player. In a game of 13 people a majority vote might be 7 players. Does that mean 6 players are scummy for following what that guy said?

I've been fairly active and outspoken in saying that all of the people I've jumped to and from are on my scumdar.

See below,
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 13:55 iVLosK! wrote:
If I could lynch 3 people in order right now:

Gotard
Umasi
That guy whose name is like frefre or something. I dunno.

The fact that I'm jumping between 3 people who I said I wanted to lynch based on new posts coming from each of them isn't really all that surprising.


As I have said I dont mind people conforming I just want reasons for doing so. You giving reasons makes me think more town for you, but just saying its a playstyle or ignoreing me makes me think scum.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 07 2013 17:29 GMT
#672
On June 08 2013 02:14 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 02:05 Xzavier wrote:
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.

The bolded was a dumb thing to post.


i had to quote this to find where you bolded. and got it, dont post who your positive is town. check.

this is one big learning experience.
Mafia :D
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 07 2013 17:34 GMT
#673
Just dont post what you think their role is ^_^

Also,
##unvote
##vote: Firere345
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
June 07 2013 17:38 GMT
#674
Just an FYI. I will be leaving in about 4 hoursish and wont be around during the deadline. I'll try to monitor the thread from my phone tonight but no promises.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 07 2013 17:39 GMT
#675
Vote SlaveCount

LoneMeow (0): Umasi
Skanjab1s (0): iVLosK!, Gotard
iVLosK! (0): Xzavier, Umasi
Spicydinosaur (0): Skanjab1s
Firere345 (5): Spicydinosaur, Skanjab1s, fferyllt, Gotard, iVLosK!, Skanjab1s
Gotard (3): Skanjab1s, Xzavier, iVLosK!, Umasi, Firere345
StimmAddict (0): iVLosK!
Umasi (1): Onegu


Not Voting: tE_, StiMaDDict, Yavanna, LoneMeow

Firere345 is currently set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory. This is a plurality lynch.
The deadline is at [unparsable timestamp format], in [unparsable timestamp format]

If there's a mistake, let me know!
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fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#676
On June 08 2013 02:29 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 02:14 fferyllt wrote:
On June 08 2013 02:05 Xzavier wrote:
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.

The bolded was a dumb thing to post.


i had to quote this to find where you bolded. and got it, dont post who your positive is town. check.

this is one big learning experience.

Remind me to revisit this in the postgame discussion if I don't bring it up.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 18:18 GMT
#677
On June 08 2013 02:47 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 02:29 Xzavier wrote:
On June 08 2013 02:14 fferyllt wrote:
On June 08 2013 02:05 Xzavier wrote:
im okay with lynching either one of them today. Firere or gotard.

i have work from 2-8 today (i leave 30 min from now) so im not gonna b able to make lengthy posts, i can explain the reasoning for my vote (if i do switch it)

but right now if gotard isnt mafia, he needs to grow a pair. He made his first constructive post, then didnt even vote for the most scummy person on his list? or one of the current possible bandwagons. Thats weird to me.

but since he has appeared like hes slowly but surely posting more (however scumlike it is) it means we can kill him later if need be on even stronger evidence.

yavannah is newbie as fuck. probably harmless town. wouldnt hurt for her to post more.

iV is troll-town(probably VT)

spicey dinosoar is somebody i was suspicious of for a good amount, but idk. not much he has said makes me think scum.
and what he says makes logical sense, thats more than i can say about half of this thread T.T

skanjab isnt on any of my lists, he puts thought into his actions, and i think there are much better people to lynch right now. and i havnt actually looked at his filter yet.

The bolded was a dumb thing to post.


i had to quote this to find where you bolded. and got it, dont post who your positive is town. check.

this is one big learning experience.

Remind me to revisit this in the postgame discussion if I don't bring it up.

No.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 07 2013 18:41 GMT
#678
knock yourself out. Skanjab gave a good enough short answer.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#679
On June 08 2013 03:41 fferyllt wrote:
knock yourself out. Skanjab gave a good enough short answer.

Wut?
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 07 2013 19:00 GMT
#680
On June 08 2013 03:41 fferyllt wrote:
knock yourself out. Skanjab gave a good enough short answer.


What are you refering to?
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