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StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 08 2013 22:34 GMT
#797
Since the deadline is very close I will make this request short and clear.

LoneMeow is a mafia. Kill him tonight if you are Vigilante.

We have a solid case against him and his interaction with Firere345 (proven scum) further indicate that he is up to no good. I'm not sure whether he is afk or something but he is not even defending himself even though he is in a tight spot. Also he only made these two posts which in my opinion is contentless and weak.

On June 08 2013 14:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Good morning, and good job on the lynch. I'll need a while to read everything that has happened but if anyone's here feel free to ask what's on your mind in the meanwhile.


On June 08 2013 15:42 LoneMeow wrote:
Crap, running out of time.

Essentially, since voting is mandatory, I had to choose between Firere345 (who I mostly wanted to lynch for lurking so much and not really being very useful when he was around) and Gotard, on whom there was a relatively good case. Originally, I thought Gotard looked way too brash to be scum, but then he went on the "wasting time on me" tangent which felt scummy, discussing opinions on anyone is useful even if the target is later proven town.

동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 02:29 GMT
#815
When are we getting Day2 post?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#824
I'll have to filter through Skanjab1 tonight. I don't remember him being particularly out of ordinary..
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#825
On June 09 2013 13:05 Xzavier wrote:
random question? does this mean that there is no SK? since only 1 person died?


It could be that either one of tE_ or Yavanna was SK or mafia didn't kill tonight which is highly unlikely.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 04:53 GMT
#828
On June 09 2013 13:48 Xzavier wrote:
Hm. Is it worth asking whoever he talked to, to come foward?
he might have accidentally mason'd a scum and scum just kills him cuz logic.

Like is that a possible situation?


That could be so if the scum wanted to kill a blue as soon as possible.
If Skanjab1 had actually masoned a scum, it would have been easy to build some town credit for mafia in my opinion.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 04:57 GMT
#829
On June 08 2013 10:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
I think it is on here, fferyllt


Not sure what this means.. it was right after the night post..
fferyllt, were you masoned?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 05:04 GMT
#830
On June 09 2013 13:57 StiMaDDict wrote:
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On June 08 2013 10:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
I think it is on here, fferyllt

Not sure what this means.. it was right after the night post..
fferyllt, were you masoned?

On June 09 2013 13:22 fferyllt wrote:
I had a look for a breadcrumb of who he might have masoned last night. Didn't see one, but I may just be dumb and sleepy.


동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 07:35 GMT
#836
What about Yavanna? She didn't vote either.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 15:15 GMT
#854
I didn't find anything particularly out of place from Skanjab1 filter..
anyway, time to die mafia motherfucker..

##Vote: LoneMeow
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 10 2013 22:23 GMT
#994
On June 11 2013 07:18 Umasi wrote:
I think that xzav is town! i have since pretty early on, early in D2 he shook my confidence, but has come back and made me happy.

Could you elaborate on this. The rest of the post was pretty much garbage imo.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 10 2013 23:26 GMT
#1011
Your first response to my case:

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On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote:
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On June 06 2013 14:59 Umasi wrote:
iVLosK, I think you are scum.


Why? Make a case if you have a good read.

I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative.



On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:
How exactly is asking for someone to explain how reasoning behind a scum claim scummy? At the time I asked for Umasi to present a case he seemed to be playing very emotionally instead of thinking logically and I hoped he would either present a logical case that could help me understand his reasoning for the claim or calm down and realize how weak his claim was.

Exactly what was your purpose behind your request to Umasi? Were you giving him a friendly advice or were you genuinely interested in hearing a logical case of Umasi against iVLosK! You just threw a comment, "Make a case then." You were neither actively involved in the beginning of the game nor were you standing up for iVLosK! with a proper reasoning.

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On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote:
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On June 06 2013 12:40 Firere345 wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:

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I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.


Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction.


Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!?


On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:
The posts you quoted contain Firere345's scum read on iVLosK! which I was asking about, trying to both get a second opinion on my own read on iVLosK! and to see Firere345's reaction to get a better read on him, seeing how little he had posted at the time.

As for your interaction with Firere345, why him? He literally only said this, "Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction" so far in the game. Mind you, he didn't fucking say iVLosK! was scummy. He merely agreed with Umasi. Well, Firere345 turned out to be a scum.. Do I need to further explain my suspicion?

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On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
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On June 06 2013 15:31 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 06 2013 15:28 Umasi wrote:
I'll operate under the assumption that you're town, because everyone else thinks so, and it seems like more will get done this way.


Do you still think he's scum though? If so, I'd like to see a short case explaining why, perhaps you can convince me?


Once again, he keeps asking for case on iVLosK! that he neither support nor argue. He seems little too eager to hope on a bandwagon given the chance though.


On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:
This is just a continuation of the earlier, Umasi still hadn't really presented a logically sound case and seemed to only be prepared to drop his attack on iVLosK! based on the "consensus" at the time, not because he had changed his own opinion.

Like why the FUCK do you care? Did you think iVLosK! was a scum? Did you feel like Umasi was acting scummy? Were you pressuring Umasi? Were you going to agree with a logical case on iVLosK!? I mean if you want a case on him so bad, why don't you get your fucking ass in the game and go through his filter and posts.
Another thing, convince you? Umasi didn't even ask for your agreement. He pretty much ignored you. (I don't even think he knew you existed to be honest..) Convince you? Just really awkward and suspicious to me.

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On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
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On June 07 2013 16:25 LoneMeow wrote:
Good morning, and sorry for being a bit inactive yesterday, had a rather exciting day IRL.

On June 07 2013 10:14 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 06 2013 14:59 Umasi wrote:
iVLosK, I think you are scum.


Why? Make a case if you have a good read.

I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative.


Tempted.

What is your read on iV?


Leaning slightly on town. Sure, he is somewhat abrasive but he was actively driving discussion. Definitely not a top lynch candidate for me right now.

On June 06 2013 22:40 Yavanna wrote:
In other news, I'm trying to discern atm about LoneMeow. He had some input on the lurker lynch issue but since he's just asked a couple questions without any real opinions of his own. Thoughts?


I was thinking of pushing you a bit after this, because when you posted this you hadn't stated any real opinions of your own besides sucking up to Xzavier, however your later posts are better so I'm okay with it for now.

On June 07 2013 15:14 fferyllt wrote:
There is a player who hasn't looked paranoid at all, though. And that in a newb sets off a few alarms.

I'd like to know if you think someone fits that description or if I'm making mountains from molehills.


This I don't like at all. Looks a lot like trying to fish for an opinion to sheep on when you don't state who you actually suspect, and that I find rather scummy.


I can go much more in detail. On fferyllt direct question, he once again slip passes. Nothing definite that will hurt him later. No concrete background to support his claim. Either he is as lazy as I am or he doesn't want to give anything away. I might add who is your top lynch candidate.


On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:
The question by fferylt isn't a direct question to me if you read the context, and it's just objectively scummy to fish for opinion without even naming the suspect like that. I'm not sure what you meant by "no concrete background to support his claim", as I didn't make a scum claim, I simply pointed out that fishing for opinion is scummy.

Why do you only addressed the third part? Also I can understand where you're coming from but what exactly are you doing? You haven't made a single case. You haven't really revealed any of your scumread so far. Just out of nowhere goes what fferyllt is scummy. Well, what do you think about other thing she said. Are those scummy or townie.

wait.. did you skip my address on your second part? Wait wait wait, you responded to my address on your first body as if I was commenting on your third body? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GUY PLAYING AT!! Write a long ass respond to my case on you, skip from parts to parts, and intentionally misinterpret it?

This is what you skipped. Mind responding to this?
On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:Gosh, LoneMeow's comment on Yavanna is just plain weird. Maybe it's just me but even though Yavanna hadn't made a scum read until then but he(or she?) gave couple of town reads on people involved around iVLosK! conflict. She cleared herself pretty well when asked why he(she) is being too nice. In contrary, LoneMeow hasn't made a real opinions of his own. And again he doesn't antagonize Yavanna.


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On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
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On June 07 2013 19:05 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 07 2013 16:34 Xzavier wrote:
Lonemeow what do you think of gotard and my case against him?


Gotard's posts are extremely weird, jumping in and straight away pushing lynch on you who most seem to find the strongest town read at the moment. Even weirder that he's pushing his second best scum read instead of the best. On the other hand, this is such a suicidal move that it makes me wonder if scum would dare do something like that.

Your case on him seems pretty good, but I still worry that he might be just overeager townie since as said, the move seems too suicidal for scum to dare try. I'm fine with lyching him if he doesn't provide better input, though.

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On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing.


It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash.


Even though I have no idea what Gotard did but I can guess a little. It seems Xzavier, who is viewed by majority as town, pointed out something minor about Gotard and Gotard, who wasn't as active as Xzavier immediately engaged him with a vote and scum read possibly. (Correct me if I'm completely off the track) So what Lone Meow decides to do is basically say, "Oh this guy (Gotard) is doing something that is suicidal. He is likely a scum. But wait, this is too suicidal to be something a scum would do. He might be a townie after all."

Lastly, his scum read on Firere345 is just plain weak. It seems to me as when he was asked he had to make a reply so he picked one of the lurker. He can probably further make excuse on explain his claim after reading my post saying that Firere345 asked a stupid question about Jester and when he (LoneMeow) asked for his opinion on iVLosK! he never answered, etc.


On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:Essentially you're saying that my case on Firere345 was weak (well, yes, it was, I even said that much myself later) and that my defense of Gotard was scummy - however as it turns out Firere345 was mafia and Gotard seems likely town by the vote distribution, so I'd say this only makes you look slightly suspicious.

Yes, I'm saying that your case on Firere345 was weak. You were messing with Gotard and decides that Firere345 is scummy because he was lurking? Dude, what about me or tE_?AND YOU ENDED UP VOTING FOR GOTARD AT THE END!? Facepalm.. this guy.. Another thing, where did you exactly admit that your case was weak? Sorry, I can't find it in your posts before this.

This is to you all. True, I'm a tunneling LoneMeow (hard) but I have a good reason for it. I didn't post a case on LoneMeow to get more information on him and I didn't do it to see other people's reaction to it. I purely did it, because in my head he is the most likely candidate for mafia. I'm also risking my own safety. I pretty much singled him out from other lurkers and I was first one pushing a case against him. I'll take a full responsibility for his death regardless of the result of flip.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 10 2013 23:34 GMT
#1012
Bus = Bandwagon? I'm not really familiar with TL mafia terminology..

Umasi, breathe.
I see where you are coming from. I did read all of your posts.

Let us see what LoneMeow flips. Let us see what happens to Yavanna. No need for you to get all worked up.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 10 2013 23:40 GMT
#1016
ahh, I see.
Thank you for clarification.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 11 2013 01:05 GMT
#1021
God damn it..
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 11 2013 01:48 GMT
#1027
Flunk a test and got demoted from Gold.
I thought at least I got something right in TL mafia but no...

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FUUUUUUUUUUUCKK
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 13 2013 22:36 GMT
#1391
##Vote: StiMaDDict
After LoneMeow's mislynch (by me), I was both busy irl and afraid to take part in the game. It's all bit too much for me to follow.
Just want to pull out of the game at this point.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 22:59:27
June 13 2013 22:59 GMT
#1408
Could you find a replacement for me? or is it not possible?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 13 2013 23:01 GMT
#1411
Just a side note, I debated whether it would be better to get mod killed by not voting but I decided that it would be disrespectful to other players. I know that the fact that I'm trying to pull out is also a disrespectful thing to do. I apologize sincerely.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 14 2013 01:20 GMT
#1487
Vig, kill me tonight. Don't waste tomorrow's lynch on me.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 14 2013 01:22 GMT
#1489
Also, Umasi is probably not a scum. It wouldn't have mattered to him whether I died or Onegu died or Xzavier died.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
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