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On May 22 2013 06:35 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 03:36 yamato77 wrote:
If I get shot, there are only a few things I want town to think about tomorrow.
1) Don't just auto-default to lynching BH because of the "scumslip". Whether he is actually mafia or not, this is terrible play. I'm not saying don't lynch him, just don't lynch him and do nothing else. If you do lynch him and he flips red, but not mason, immediately lynch Marv. This should go without saying.
2) Don't sleep on the "towniest" players this game. If one of Marv/DP suddenly becomes less interested in this game later on and we've mislynched consecutively, strongly reconsider your reads. They are more than capable of appearing active and pro-town as mafia. I feel its unlikely that either is mafia, but the possibility exists.
3) Pressure low-activity and low-involvement players like Dandel Ion until they contribute, or flat out lynch them. Sometimes, the best places to find mafia is among the low-hanging fruit. Don't just bandwagon on active players and cannibalize yourselves. Anyone you have a null read on, you need to be pressing for information. Try to make conclusions about their alignment.
4) Consider my reads when you're forming yours for day 2. Notably, I think that Dandel and GoodKarma are people to look at tomorrow. I've outlined Dandel already, so I'll explain my read on GK. While he explained his suspicions well, it's somewhat difficult to discern GK's true alignment. He seems to be sharply following thread sentiment. I can't reason which of his games he looks more like this game. Solstice made what I feel is a valid point in that he does seem to be continually defending his position, which is in line with my overview of his scum meta.
5) Try not to lose this game for me, please. I hate losing. And what happened to your thoughts here now that you didn't die. You haven't really pursued lurkers or done anything since the day post. What's going on?
You guys are doing fine. I get lazy D2-D4 or so unless I feel like I need to do stuff. I don't feel like I need to do stuff.
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On May 22 2013 09:47 goodkarma wrote:Spoilered Solstice's post above below for your reference.: + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2013 09:11 s0Lstice wrote:Marv (and all)-- This is compelling: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence. I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here... Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2013 01:24 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 18 2013 22:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 22:03 iamperfection wrote:
marv do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum? Maybe? I understand what you're getting at, but I'm ambivalent about it. Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand(Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw ...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched. Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude: Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs.
Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that? Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what. I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly. BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p? I'm in general agreement with this post, except for the 3p thing and that a scum Dandel is far more likely than a scum grush. I have my own thoughts on who might be 3p, but I'll save that for the night phase.
I'd like it if you could show the slightest interest in this game.
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It's unfortunate, but it's what I've come to expect from grush. :|
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On May 22 2013 12:48 Blazinghand wrote:
is anyone around
##lynch blazinghand
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On May 22 2013 12:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self?
I'm lazy today.
I think BH looks a little better right now, but I don't know how much I really feel like moving the lynch off him, or if I even could at this point.
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On May 22 2013 12:52 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 12:51 yamato77 wrote:On May 22 2013 12:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Yamato answer my question at the top of the page please. Why aren't you being your usual headstrong self? I'm lazy today. I think BH looks a little better right now, but I don't know how much I really feel like moving the lynch off him, or if I even could at this point. It's plurality. If you think I'm scum, so be it, let's work together until I flip. But by god, if you think I'm town, get your vote off me.
I don't know what you are. If you're scum you're doing a good job fooling me so far, but I can't tell.
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On May 22 2013 15:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I guess it's more of a null-scum read on JJD but they should call you ihop cause you got so much waffle
ihop's waffles suck
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Anyone here want to converse about this game?
The game I want to play is: show me a case and I'll evaluate its strengths and weaknesses.
Perhaps I can update myself on the game in the process, as I've paid little attention to the goings on of this thread today.
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Is there anything in particular you want me to read and respond to, Marv?
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On May 22 2013 18:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 18:48 yamato77 wrote:
Is there anything in particular you want me to read and respond to, Marv? Not much I guess. I'd like you to be active in the night-phase regardless of the flip colour, if that's ok.
If he flips red, I think we're on the right track and there isn't much to evaluate except perhaps glancing at D1 again and seeing who said what about BH's alignment and when.
If he flips green, I, and everyone else, should reevaluate every single read of ours. I think we'd be at MYLO or something tomorrow if there is another 2KP on town tonight.
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On May 23 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote:
Read your GK case BH.
It's purely meta outside of the fact that he was in thread around the deadline. Many of the people who think GK is scum I think do so in part because of his meta. That includes me. I agree with the observations you made, I made the same ones when I looked for myself. So, for what it's worth, I agree with you on this....but as I clarified my position on him earlier to you, it should come as little surprise.
I agree with this man on the GK issue.
I will not apologize for waffling on Day 1. Shit happens.
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On May 23 2013 02:04 Blazinghand wrote:
So you think GK is scum, and you agree with my case
It's definitely not the first time a meta case was made on GK this game, so don't act like it's "your" case.
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We're lynching Dandel tomorrow >_>
Hate to tell ya.
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Or you'll flips cum and people will be dumb and call GK town.
/logic
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I think you have 3 hours.
I'll prepare the eulogy.
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On May 23 2013 04:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
But I have in fact voted.
I just did it ninja.
This is why we're lynching you tomorrow.
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Fuck this, man, I should have fought this lynch. I knew my waffling last night meant something :[
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Regardless of night actions, I feel we have to lynch Dandel or GK. Based on the wholly valid meta analyses of GK and the obvious disinterest of Dandel, I have zero doubt that either is scum.
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On May 23 2013 09:03 s0Lstice wrote:
I'm thinking those are our likely lynches for tomorrow as well.
I need to figure out how the hell I feel about JJ now....rewind on the association stuff.
JJ is one of those people I have a question mark for as well.
My only good town reads are you and DP right now :|
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