EPTJarJar, we are well into the week now. After BH, are you still maintaining that DP is scum?
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JarJar, we are well into the week now. After BH, are you still maintaining that DP is scum? | ||
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On May 21 2013 22:17 marvellosity wrote: Splendid. So now we're heading due forwards, what do you think of the merit of the original argument I was making before we got distracted? I think it's a good argument. I've written some stuff about GK awhile back myself. He is not approaching the game as his townie self should, as you've shown, and his cases have been overreaching to the point of being malicious. His PM claim threw me for a loop, nothing I can do about that now, but the evidence is saying to me that he is scum. | ||
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##vote blazinghand | ||
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I'm going through your filter right now, and unless I somehow missed it, I don't see a single reference to GK. What's your read and why? | ||
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On May 18 2013 22:21 JarJarDrinks wrote: Is he trying to imply that BH and I are scumbuddies? Is that so when BH flips red I don't look quite as good? If you think me and BH are both scum then help me bus him. ##vote: blazinghand (Sorry if I'm interpretting your post wrong iamp. But that's what I felt like u were saying) This post by JarJar is just so ballsy and fearless. I can't help but assign JJ mad townie points every time I read it. Definitely muddies the waters for me. | ||
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On May 22 2013 01:26 marvellosity wrote: Either that or it's hilariously honest. lol. That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw | ||
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This is compelling: On May 22 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote: Little tidbit for you to think about. The original question from iamp to me was saying this: "do you think jarjar would try to throw dirt on bh if bh is town and jarjar were scum?" What iamp was implying was this: how likely is it for a newer scumplayer to attack a known, stronger player? iamp is basically saying that JarJar looks townier for attacking a strong player. This isn't necessarily that obvious, but JarJar thinks that iamp is saying that Jarjar (mafia) would only attack BH if he were mafia. It could well mean implied guilt, when the original intention of iamp's was actually more of a mini-defence. I went back and read that exchange and I see what you are getting at. I think it's significant. Building on what I said here... On May 22 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote: That could explain the aggressiveness and anger. Hes spent the whole game building credit for the bus, but no credit is being assigned to him. Associations before the flip ftw ...I went to look at JJ's filter again to see if it looked like he was scrambling for credit for BH's flip, because I seemed to remember him fighting for it a lot. On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote: All caught up. So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO. I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Bolded is a passive reminder that he's been saying this all along. Also, talking about a DP bus play is just off the wall nuts imo. I see no reason why this thought would cross any town players mind at this juncture...but it could come from the mind of someone who has been thinking 'bus' all game. This is pointed out in the next quote. On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote: Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. Another reminder that he has been on BH 24/7. On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote: I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. On May 20 2013 23:46 JarJarDrinks wrote: Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched. Those speak for themselves. Combine this with what Marv was saying about his attitude: On May 22 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote: Because I'm omnipresent and I have lovely abs. Thank you for asking me to explain something I said I couldn't explain very well. He's coming across as overly aggressive, it feels like he's working against town rather than with town. Do you understand what I mean by that? Fighting for credit for bus-->not getting it-->aggressive/attitude It reminds me of how Mattchew was caught in 'I Can't Believe it's Not Themed.' He and sciberbia drove for a lynch of a scum talismania, and scum Mattchew wanted to take credit for it when it was very much irrelevant who did what. I mean, we haven't seen a flip yet, but this fits pretty snugly. BH, JJ, one of Dandel/grush for scum....GK for 3p? | ||
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The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do. I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this. | ||
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I read your arguments. Not buying it in the least. Your reaction was a public face palm no matter how you try to posture it. The best thing is, you don't even need the reaction to make the lynch BH argument. Like I just said, the reads you are scrambling to come up with on your deathbed aren't anything scum BH couldn't do, and do very little to alleviate the massive problem you have with a terrible early filter. Time for me to sleep now. Town, if you are letting BH talk you out of this lynch you need to reexamine the entire situation and remember why he is on the block in the first place. | ||
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On May 22 2013 13:54 Stutters695 wrote: Not knowing mechanics=/a definite scum slip in a closed setup. It is probably a scum slip but again I'd prefer taking out someone who isn't contributing at all and seems scummy over someone who is going to be here and provide more to analyze. Quite frankly if Marv shows up in the morning, calls me retarded and tells me to go BH my vote will pop right back over because he knows BH way better, but I'd rather have a potential scum BH in LYLO than a toss up Grush or DI when one of them is almost certainly scum. I'd be happy to call you retarded right now if it'd help!  Just kidding of course | ||
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I didn't really feel the need to respond since if you look closely at my filter, you'll be able to answer most of you're own questions. I've been all over the place on GK because I have had a shitty time trying to get a read on him. I thought that was self evident. I didn't want to lynch him day 1 because I was obsessing over his PM claim. Obsessing over the claim led to the argument with Marv. Current scum read comes from a re-read of the situation without considering the claim...per Marv's prompting and my own legitimate evidence that I had written before the claim business. The GK 3p (no explanation has been provided from me yet) is just a gut call based on the kill of Rayn. This has been discussed by others, and isn't as important to me as thinking that whatever he is, GK is anti-town. GK has plenty of time tbh. After your flip BH I'm probably going to want to lynch JJ if you flip red. That's a lot of time for the rest of us to see what GK is gonna do. If you flip town, which I consider to be pretty unlikely, then I'll need to re-evaluate everything wholesale. | ||
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On May 23 2013 00:01 Blazinghand wrote: What do you think of my case on GK? I skimmed it, I will give you a more fleshed out opinion before the lynch, during my lunch break (hour or so). | ||
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It's purely meta outside of the fact that he was in thread around the deadline. Many of the people who think GK is scum I think do so in part because of his meta. That includes me. I agree with the observations you made, I made the same ones when I looked for myself. So, for what it's worth, I agree with you on this....but as I clarified my position on him earlier to you, it should come as little surprise. | ||
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Just so I have this right: Sputnik's day 1 lynch is an unlikely scum lynch did not reveal iamp was a mason when he was masoned with you picking a fight with you day 1 these are the main points of why marv is town to you? | ||
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