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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 18 2013 22:40 GMT
#863
On May 19 2013 07:39 yamato77 wrote:
If anyone is the king of martyring, it's me

I hammered myself.

So did Shiao.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 18 2013 22:42 GMT
#866
I dunno of all the games I've seen I still think Geript in LX takes the cake but unrelated.
Iamp where are you going with this?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 18 2013 22:46 GMT
#869
On May 19 2013 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 07:38 marvellosity wrote:
On May 19 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp, yamato, marm; i am involved, i am voting for iamp atm. he is calling one gut town and one guy null for same reasons. that is bullshit imo.

and marv. do not talk about martyring, you are the king of it. end of discussion.


how am I the king of martyring? I've never martyred.

really? you have ragequitted a game and and that is the cheapest thing i have ever seen. You did deserve a 100 game ban, as i got a 5 games for a misunderstanding and i just handled it. And you ruined another game to be fair. I have no real respect fpr you, aside from your play. Sorry to be so straight, but you asked.

As for the game, yamato; Explain, how is iamp's read on me and solstice fair from his list? gimme details.

Rayn to me it doesn't make sense that you're going so batshit insane over this. Essentially what it amounts to is you freaking out over the colour iamp decided to use in his post.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 06:35 GMT
#1033
On May 19 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:
*also you just flipped scum in Carnival and you played shit/lazy in that game too. I also had a scum read on you in the obs qt like since day one of that game. So i know how to read you.

Hai guise I back!
I have so much to say about this but I fucking can't. Either way I'm not 100% sure I'd be comfortable with a BH lynch today, MUCH happier about GK especially with that role PM horseshit. Like...wtf.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 06:39 GMT
#1034
Ugh there is something to be said about BH purposefully spamming up the thread with 'drunk talk,' certainly fits his 'The Game' and overall scum strategy where he just tries to shit up the thread but this seems different in that his usual 'shitting of the thread' involves actually playing the game. I guess either way we'll see how he carries himself when he 'sobers up?'
If we don't get anything more useful out of him by that point I will gladly switch off GK.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 16:37 GMT
#1111
On May 20 2013 00:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Also has WoS just fucked off now that his wagon has fallen apart?

It's called fucking sleeping. Would you like a breakdown of my sleep schedule?
Go to bed at 9PM EST because I'm fucking exhausted, wake up at 2AM to feed my 5 month old child, fuck around a bit, read threads, post a little, go to bed, wake up now.
Better?
I'm almost done so keep your tits firmly attached.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1114
Touché, sir.
Alright so JJD right now, huh? Also I remember thinking something Spicydinosaur yesterday did was dumb but I gotta look back.
DP as far as JJD goes, I watched his newbie games but they kinda mesh together for me. I'm basing his scumminess on his seeming convenient lurking this game, but if you want to meta read him wouldn't it be a good idea to go back and have a look at his other games? My meta reads are usually shit so I'm not going to bother. Again vote staying on GK for now but I can consolidate later on to JJD/sputnik/who the fuck ever if necessary. I'm fine to let BH live another day as well to prove himself as a scum mason does seem pretty unlikely, yeah. (though I suppose possible?)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1116
HAHA I also just looked at the voting thread and sputnik's 'random vote' was on me without even saying so.
I SO wanna lynch him now.
Can we do it?
Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaase?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 17:20 GMT
#1127
Alright ladies and gents, as it is a beautiful day today I will be taking my kid swimming for the first time. Lynch is at 5 EST I think?
I should be around for lynch I think (to avoid non-consolidation lololol) and I will try to pop in and out for the next few hours.
I support a lynch of the following players assuming nothing in their activity changes:
GK/JJD/sputnik
If there's anything people specifically want from me, let me know and I'll do my best to help before that point.
Otherwise expect me back in full force around 9-10PM EST.

/schedule
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 20:21 GMT
#1213
Fuuuu I'll try to phone post before deadline but don't expect a great deal
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 20:30 GMT
#1226
Why is spicy such a hot topic all of a sudden? I remember there was something specific I was going to ask him about that post but its on my compueter at home and I didn't want to derail current wagons.

Nows def the time we have to consolidate though and I don't think ill be able to post right at deadline.
Iamp which of my original 3 is a safe place to park my vote?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 20:32 GMT
#1231
Like is spicy actually liable to get lynched today based on this last minute pressure?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 19 2013 20:44 GMT
#1259
Alright last post until aforementioned time.
I am perfectly happy with switch to sputnik; had him as scum since start at worst, useless lurker at best.

##unvote
##Vote:Sputnik.theory
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 01:10 GMT
#1382
On May 20 2013 09:40 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because noone was here telling what to do other than me. where were you?

I never am active on weekends. Sucks but it happens every game.

Or any other day of the week.

Alright ladies and gents, kid's in bed, Game of Thrones is on but fuck that shit, I read the books so I already know what's gonna happen.
I believe I said I was gonna do a read on Spicy at some point and since Dandel is such a hot topic atm I'll look into him as well.

Anything anyone would like to discuss while I'm around?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 01:41 GMT
#1384
Oh yeah didn't mention the lynch. I am a little surprised he flipped town honestly but as others have said he was going to have to die at some point. Eliminating chaff D1 isn't the worst thing to happen.

Stuff I want to comment on over the past few pages:
Rayn speculating like crazy about NKs. One of those things I like to do but somehow I always get called out for it. Should I be calling him out?
Vayne being so wrong with his mechanics assumptions is pretty hilar. Probably not alignment indicative and fits with his anti-TL style (that he's apparently trying to correct). As far as I'm concerned either BH or Marv or both or none are scum as of now; I didn't really follow that argument anyway.
Dandel with the last second sheep. People seem to be going either way on this but when I look into him in a bit hopefully I'll know more.

I have no fucking clue what this post means.
On May 20 2013 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck was anyone voting for spicy before his WoS/Jarjar stuff?

Actually nobody was, but the lynch is 100% scum driven. rofl. and for what reasons.


Alright inc filter diving. PREPARE THYSELVES
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 01:55 GMT
#1386
Spicy:
Starts off game ok. Makes good points about Vayne's meta which I agree with; though again Vayne is attempting to change things.
On May 18 2013 23:23 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:
I want rayn and Spicy to pipe up as well.


s0Lstice's filter comes up very scummy for me. He started off by posting about his meta and pointing out that he was never scum.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 02:52 s0Lstice wrote:
hey hi

I recognize a lot of people in this game, but I haven't played with all of you. I just recently updated my profile with my past games so go peruse them if you want.

I've never rolled scum, and my streak continues for this game. So...sup town!


I get them some people like to use a lot of meta to play but the fact that he has always been town is irrelevant as every new game could be the first time you get scum.

He also throws some spam in a number of his posts like this:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:36 s0Lstice wrote:
/trustfall catch me WoS

soo your question was: s0l can you talk about yourself? yea I can do that.

I tend to be a fan of meta. I don't use it all the time...I use it in a manner similar to how BH was describing. I have a shitty win record, though I do get NKed early a fair amount. I have a virgin, unlynched neck. I'm usually pretty active. I like weird set-ups just as much as I like a good normal mini. I like ice cream, electric guitars, and words that sound like what they mean.



I've noticed that there is a lot of spam in many guy's post so this might not be such a big deal. The thing that really bugs me is this post:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:40 s0Lstice wrote:


Yup, both things are there. I said I'm always town because, like I said, some folks may find it helpful to know. On a personal note, I happen to think it's hilarious that I can't seem to ever draw scum.

That's related to Stutters question that I missed. If you have never played scum before, chances are your first time isn't going to be so graceful. It's just one more piece of the puzzle; it helps me weight any nervousness/silence/inconsistency that I see.


He keeps pushing this reliance on meta and I find it extremely scummy. He firsts points out that he has never rolled scum, then says that if you roll scum for the first time, you are going to have a bad time. His posts can be summed up in a nice simple sentence: I have never rolled scum and if I did I would be playing so much shittier that it would be obvious.

His later posts seem to then abandon mention of meta and actually really focus on reading other players. He didn't jump on the vayne bandwagon like a lot of others did. I did like his read on goodkarma and did a good job of calling him out on his back and forth thoughts of jarjar.

As of now I'd say he's not scum. I really dislike his meta play style but his subsequent posts have gotten better.



He was using meta up until this point so not sure why he excludes himself here. Also the "I'm always not therefore I'm not scum" argument has been belaboured enough at this point. We're proud of our townstreaks, we think it might help people read into us. Yes it has no bearing on what we role in current/upcoming games whatever.

I dunno the way he calls solstice out for meta use and uses it himself previously rubs me the wrong way. Maybe I'm biased because I understand why all the people who say we've never rolled scum say so. Whatever. Moving on.

On May 19 2013 09:26 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm reading raynpelikoneet as a shitty town. He claimed that GK was scum and supported it with a number of points in a couple of posts. This may not be the best argument but at least he's supporting his position.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, here is the case, Goodkarma:

- Shitty case on Stutters with backpedalling without explanation.
- Contradicting himself on grush, REALLY BAD! STARSENSEESSSSSS!
- His meta comparsion on Jarjar is false.
- His meta comparsion on me is false.
- His stance on WoS is that Wos plays town "bad" and here he is bad, so he is scum. Bad =/= scum.


Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GK:
- Do you know haw Jarjar plays? Did you explain why he is scum as he does what he does?
- About me. What games about me you have read?
- About grush. You say "So in other words, you will always be town when you say starsenses. And you haven't said starsenses this game. Further, you say you will try to counter you own meta from now on, meaning you weren't starting to as of this game..." Look at your argument. You are basically saying "you didn't claim STARSENSES, YOU ARE SCUM, BUT IF YOU DO, YOU ARE ALSO SCUM".

I don't need to tell you why you are wrong, you need to tell me why you are right. so quotes please. Make sure you quote me from my last (town) game where i said i'm working 12h/7d/week. And call me a lurker then.


However he then goes off the rails with iamperfection after he gives his quick view of the group.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
9. s0Lstice-town for now- Since he dislikes sputnik and gk that seems good to me.

16. raynpelikoneet-null- wants to kill gk and sputnik makes him ok in my book bad activity though


Okay, this guy claimed scum.
##Unvote;
##Vote: iamperfection


ggyo


Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp, yamato, marm; i am involved, i am voting for iamp atm. he is calling one gut town and one guy null for same reasons. that is bullshit imo.

and marv. do not talk about martyring, you are the king of it. end of discussion.



This seems more like a impulse child vote than anything throwing a hissy fit because he feels his play is on a different level. There is a clear difference in the mentality that went into the voting of GK and iamp. Seems very spammy for spammy sake.

On the one hand I agree with his analysis that the GK vote and Iamp vote of Rayn's are coming from different places, but to this point every single case or read he's made on another player includes that he thinks they're spammy. Grush, solstice, and now Rayn. I'm not sure if Spicy doesn't know what to look for when scumhunting or deliberately bad scumhunting?

Now we get to the post everyone called him out on. I had this written up earlier about it but wasn't around to throw it out there; I think it may sill apply however despite him clearing much of that up.

The fuckup JJD/me post on me is honestly pretty terrible since it looks like all he did was look into the first page or two of my filter and come up with a bunch of shit and the completely changes tracks to vote somebody else. His 'case' on JJD is barely even that, all he does is repeat a bunch of the same shit others have. Dropping the fact that he fucked it up to the wayside, the parts of the case he wrote which make sense when applied to the proper people don't even look good of their own accord.

On May 19 2013 23:27 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 12:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On May 19 2013 11:19 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Jarjar on the other hand has posted some content, though very little. He's been the subject of attack a number of times but he has yet defended himself properly. Whether his in-activeness is due to RL or deliberate scum, I don't like it. I get the feeling he tried coasting D1 and got caught and really doesn't know what to do. His posts contain a lot of excuses which is scummy. I'm putting my vote on him.

##vote jarjardrinks

I've said that I cant really be that active on the weekends. I don't know how that means my "posts contain a lot of excuses"

And like, you're saying that I've yet to defend myself properly. Well the only real case against me is that I've been lurking. Anything I can say to defend myself I'm sure is gonna sound like more excuses to you. Is there something specific that you or someone is accusing me of that I should post a defense for?


Your lurking is a huge problem and it seems you don't really care that people are upset that you are. Even if you have limited time, why not spend it filtering a player and getting an opinion on him off. This post feels like a delay of anything substantive. The best way you can defend yourself is to give me thoughts/opinions on the other players. vote is staying on you.

I like this post and agree. Not much else to say.

He then starts focusing on GK; I must say the efforts here look pretty sincere. He brings up points against GK that are not just rehashings of stuff other people brought up, which usually makes me feel good about a player. Town generally care to dive deep like that.

Overall Spicy didn't look great early but picked up his game. I'd give him a townread for now though that is contigent on him responding to the stuff earlier in the post that I think makes him look not so good.

On to Dandel.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 01:56 GMT
#1387
On May 20 2013 10:52 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah didn't mention the lynch. I am a little surprised he flipped town honestly but as others have said he was going to have to die at some point. Eliminating chaff D1 isn't the worst thing to happen.



Why surprised?

Because literally everything he did this game was scummy.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 02:05 GMT
#1388
Dandel Ion:
The scumclaim....wtf? I guess not aligment indicative (ie scum would never be ballsy enough to do this, or maybe he as scum was counting on us to think that way, WIFOM, etc)
I really can't comment much on the marv shitfest because I don't really get what the fuck they were arguing about. The shitfest itself looks like an attempt to get marv purposefully riled up but to what end I have no fucking clue. Again, null.

I agree with his read of Vayne; I wish we could get more stuff like this out of him.
On May 18 2013 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 18 2013 23:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
Point me to where exactly you've proven you're town.

I haven't yet this game obviously, hence the people who think I'm scum. Don't you worry your pretty head dandel.

So why are you angry people read you scum if you know you haven't shown your incredible greenness and town love.
And that's what I'm saying about you FYI. You haven't let your kermit shine through.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh by the way, what was the point of that shitfest with marv a while back aside from just completely fucking with the thread?

Wait, I need more reason than that?

He says he suspects me a couple times but does nothing to push it other than this. As a matter of fact he does nothing to push fucking anybody. At all.
Gives Grush a townread for the same reasons as me yet I draw all the heat for whatever fucking reason...ugh whatever.

Thinks he catches GK in a scumslip and fails, then in the same post goes on a bunch of tangents...
I have no fucking clue how to read this guy whatsoever.

If I had to commit I'd call him scum just because he doesn't seem to give a fuck about the state of town whatsoever (and supposedly when town he actually does?) I have no clue about his meta so I wouldn't base any read of him on that, but I'd lynch him if he plays another day like he did D1.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 02:16 GMT
#1391
On May 20 2013 11:11 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 10:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:52 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah didn't mention the lynch. I am a little surprised he flipped town honestly but as others have said he was going to have to die at some point. Eliminating chaff D1 isn't the worst thing to happen.



Why surprised?

Because literally everything he did this game was scummy.


I agree but didn't it seem over the top scummy, like no rational scum player would play it like that.

Yeah I mentioned that, but I didn't feel like taking the chance.
So looks like it's just us two around
Regarding the meta use, you're right and I even commented on you talking about it earlier, derp. I liked how you handled the rest of my filter dive of you.

Care to have a look at my dandel read (if you can call it that) and let me know what you think or if you have any insight that I can't get from his shit filter?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 02:59 GMT
#1395
On May 20 2013 11:51 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:24 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I agree with you on the marv/ dandel shitstorm. I couldnt make anything out of it other than it was an attempt to rile marv up. The rest of your read on him is pretty good but I say right now i have a null read leading towards scum. His last second switch to sputnik is what is sending off a lot of flags, especially after he said he wasnt going to vote for him and wished that he be vig shot.


This is important if you think Marv is town.

Why only if you think marv is town? One could always attempt to rile marv up if he was mafia too. How is that alignment indicative?
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