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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think we should lynch sputnic or BH. WHY. There are drastic differences between these two players; you're either talking lurker lynch atn or not, but either way, no reasoning. Wtf is this rayn? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think we should lynch sputnic or BH. I would like to see BH live for a little before killing him off, as hes good at pressuring mafia into mistakes. sputnik just seems like a mafia bandwagon waiting to happen. any other reads? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Haha WoS, i remember you telling me the same thing about 2 days ago and look what happened. I'll elaborate, as said, in 2hours when i get to a computer, posting from my phone is hard. Alright didn't see this. What do you mean me telling you 2 days ago? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: The last game where i got killed, and you said same stuff early on. Ok ill look when I get home. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
So to summarize my thoughts on Sputnik and JarJar: Both are lurkers. And both have played as lurkers in the past as town. Therefore, they are not necessarily acting differently from their town meta as far as activity goes. Looking at content, neither has much substance. I would rather not lynch into them today. That being said, I would rather lynch Sputnik than JarJar. WaveofShadow, on the other hand, is a different matter. From what I remember of his play in The Game, he played pretty horribly. As town he was wishy washy about his stances on most players, and when he was nearly lynched the only thing that really saved him was that he blueclaimed. Here, he seems to be a lot more sure of himself in places, but in a way that doesn't really make sense to me from a town perspective. Sputnik, who basically made one scummy post and lurked, is "sure scum" to him. And Grush is "sure town" for saying starsenses. This has already been discussed, but the contrast from his townplay is what stands out to me. Further, he seems to really like asking people for scumreads. His questions don't seem to really have any purpose other than to make him look more active. Look at his filter and see how many times he asks a variation of "Who you think is scum?" It's a pretty pointless thing to ask, given everyone here is going to be giving their scumreads anyways. ##Unvote ##Vote: WaveofShadow | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
What is grush doing that's outside his usual town meta, that I'm sure you're taking into account? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 19 2013 02:15 goodkarma wrote: Since it looks like no one here is going to vote for Grush now that he said Starsenses several more times, I'll be changing my vote. I still feel he's scummy and would like to lynch him, but consolidation is important. Also, there's always the chance he will be vigi shot. Among scummy Grush and lurkers Sputnik and JarJar, one should likely be vigi shot. So to summarize my thoughts on Sputnik and JarJar: Both are lurkers. And both have played as lurkers in the past as town. Therefore, they are not necessarily acting differently from their town meta as far as activity goes. Looking at content, neither has much substance. I would rather not lynch into them today. That being said, I would rather lynch Sputnik than JarJar. WaveofShadow, on the other hand, is a different matter. From what I remember of his play in The Game, he played pretty horribly. As town he was wishy washy about his stances on most players, and when he was nearly lynched the only thing that really saved him was that he blueclaimed. Here, he seems to be a lot more sure of himself in places, but in a way that doesn't really make sense to me from a town perspective. Sputnik, who basically made one scummy post and lurked, is "sure scum" to him. And Grush is "sure town" for saying starsenses. This has already been discussed, but the contrast from his townplay is what stands out to me. Further, he seems to really like asking people for scumreads. His questions don't seem to really have any purpose other than to make him look more active. Look at his filter and see how many times he asks a variation of "Who you think is scum?" It's a pretty pointless thing to ask, given everyone here is going to be giving their scumreads anyways. ##Unvote ##Vote: WaveofShadow The bolded is scummy as hell. Why consolidate before we've even hit the halfway point in the day? This just screams "oh shit everyone agrees Grush is town now, I need a way out but I still have look committed to my scumreads." You say you would rather lynch sputnik than Jarjar but don't say why, then you call me out for calling sputnik scummy for legitimate reasons? You and everyone else who have ever made meta cases on me calling me scum have been absolutely wrong. You're more than welcome to your vote but fuck you are the first person who I'm jumping to now if sputnik no longer looks like a good lynch to me. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
As for consolidation, yes it's a bit early. But given the last few games I've obs'ed / been in have had profound problems with this, I figured I'd rather push for it sooner than later. I feel Wave is a good lynch for today, so I have no issue switching my vote to him. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
Got sniped by wave | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: The last game where i got killed, and you said same stuff early on. Rayn if you're talking about the game I'm thinking of, I didn't say anything of the sort. Either way, I'm still fine to wait for you to come up with something; your scumreads were BH and sputnik. If you have something supporting the sputnik lynch that I haven't thought of yet I'm all ears. I'm also interested to hear what you may have to say about BH and which you'd rather lynch today. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25555 Posts
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On May 19 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote: The bolded is scummy as hell. Why consolidate before we've even hit the halfway point in the day? This just screams "oh shit everyone agrees Grush is town now, I need a way out but I still have look committed to my scumreads." You say you would rather lynch sputnik than Jarjar but don't say why, then you call me out for calling sputnik scummy for legitimate reasons? You and everyone else who have ever made meta cases on me calling me scum have been absolutely wrong. You're more than welcome to your vote but fuck you are the first person who I'm jumping to now if sputnik no longer looks like a good lynch to me. Just addressed the consolidation thing. As for Sputnik over JarJar: Sputnik looks like he'll never improve his post quality (and therefore it's more likely it would be a policy lynch even if we don't lynch him today) whereas JarJar will likely post enough content in upcoming days I'm confident I'll have a better read on him. The issue with your stance on Sputnik (in case the others voting you haven't made it clear enough to you) is that he's "obvscum" to you. Scum tend to take rigid stances like this, not townies. Especially when considering how little's actually in the guy's filter, it's hard to understand how you'd be so sure as town. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 19 2013 03:10 goodkarma wrote: Just addressed the consolidation thing. As for Sputnik over JarJar: Sputnik looks like he'll never improve his post quality (and therefore it's more likely it would be a policy lynch even if we don't lynch him today) whereas JarJar will likely post enough content in upcoming days I'm confident I'll have a better read on him. The issue with your stance on Sputnik (in case the others voting you haven't made it clear enough to you) is that he's "obvscum" to you. Scum tend to take rigid stances like this, not townies. Especially when considering how little's actually in the guy's filter, it's hard to understand how you'd be so sure as town. K so you say I can't be rigid 'cause it makes me scum, and others say I can't be wishy-washy 'cause it makes me scum. Good to know, thanks. Glad to know people are really thinking hard about this and not with any confirmation bias or anything. GK I have explained my stance on sputnik multiple times and people want to go ahead and believe what they feel despite what I say. On May 18 2013 15:47 WaveofShadow wrote: So no GK, no sputnik. no JJD. You planning on coming up with something? I mean, I agree with you on sputnik so far as I expect him to come back and say/do something, but until he does my vote stays on him so I'm treating him scummy until proven otherwise, unlike you, whose method is innocent until proven lurky? I'm not sure I agree with you regarding JJD's recent post because weren't there other people who realized what BH seemed to about VA at the same time? And why is GK not getting lynched today? If you're calling me out for semantic use of the word 'obvscum' and other people are using similar reasoning to this then I guess my no-mislynch streak is being broken here. I'm getting really sick of explaining myself multiple times regarding my thoughts on grush and sputnik; just read the fucking thread. I'm not defending myself any more regarding this. Marv you don't have a townread of GK; what is your read then? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
- Shitty case on Stutters with backpedalling without explanation. - Contradicting himself on grush, REALLY BAD! STARSENSEESSSSSS! - His meta comparsion on Jarjar is false. - His meta comparsion on me is false. - His stance on WoS is that Wos plays town "bad" and here he is bad, so he is scum. Bad =/= scum. BH is scum because he went on with Vayne for ages when he is in the game with him (where Vayne flipped town). He even said "God, you really think this is how to play town". Bullshit, you know better. And the VI shit that's.... yeah.. scum you. sputnik.theory is scum because of his 3 first posts in thread that do not say shit. Oh and nothing after that says shit.. Dandel is scum because he said BH was right about Vayne (treat the guy like a VI and bla bla...), that was the worst post in thread ever. marv: Why did you go on a shitfest with Vayne for so long? Why do you want to lynch JJD? Lurker? | ||
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