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On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious.
Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum.
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On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right?
I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out.
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On May 20 2013 23:14 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 23:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 22:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 20 2013 22:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
All caught up.
So BH scumslipped? I'm shocked. /end sarcasm
FWIW, I don't it's unreasonable to think that DP is bussing here. He's trying to gain town cred for a lynch that almost happened yesterday. If they thought that BH was most likely gonna get lynched or vigged, it'd be a pretty good scum play IMO.
I'm not saying I definately think it's true, but DP "catching" BH in scumslip when there are already several people suspecting BH doesn't make me think DP is any more likely to be town. Why on earth would you put forward the theory that DP is bussing? There's zero indication in your filter thus far that you think DP is suspicious. Well for starters I've been trying to push for a BH lynch all game. But DP still has me as a top scumread despite basically saying that he's 100% sure BH is scum. He earlier accused me of being a scummie that's too attached to my badwagon. You would think he'd back off me a bit since he supposedly believes that the guy I've been bandwagoning is scum. So if DP is potentially mafia bussing BH, same could be true of you on Day 1, right? Like "gosh darnit, everyone believes the claim, but I still think he's mafia!" Looks good if BH later flips mafia, right? I'm not saying that I should be treated as a confirmed townie or anything. But I think I should get some town cred for being the first person to call him out. generally townies don't really give a shit about town cred...... you scum dog?
"As a townie, your number 1 priority is to establish your innocence."
- A General Guide to Mafia
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On May 20 2013 23:37 DarthPunk wrote:
[This guy knows BH is scum. There is no doubt. and he is trying to make me look bad or something when BH flips red. I don't give a fuck if it's association before the flip. Lynch this guy after BH. Lol, No that's what ur doing. I've been saying BH is scum ALL F'N GAME. You've been saying he was scum since he almost got lynched.
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On May 20 2013 23:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Nah. I almost got him lynched the first time. I didn't climb on the wagon for town cred. Uh, You were the first person to unvote him after his claim. I stayed on him untill it was clear that he wasn't gonna get lynched.
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On May 20 2013 23:52 s0Lstice wrote:
JarJar, how did you read DP prior to the BH scumslip and why?
Was leaning scum. I wasn't crazy about how he misread my meta or how he was so quick to believe BHs claim. Not sure why he thinks he was "the towniest motherfucker in the game"
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OK, Check out how hard DarthPunk was defending Sputnik
On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO
On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard.
On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too? It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh? On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Also you guys use meta way to much OK. Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum. Sputnik is KNOWN to lurk as town and ???? as scum. Therefore there is no reason to believe sputnik lurking has anything at all to do with his alignment.
On May 20 2013 01:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
DP, I really don't like your meta comparison with sputnik. Sure he was inactive and got modkilled, but that's not really what I'm looking at at least.
In the game in the database, he made one, er, "trolly/fun" (? bad description maybe) post but then all of his subsequent posts were on the ball, talking about the game, calmly written. He asked about mayors running, he gave his preference (none :p) on the candidates, he gave his opinion.
In this game he's yapped around in some weird Les Mis character I guess and offered no opinions on anything, other than a silly little list post.
I think the use of meta here to clear his play is completely incorrect. it was purely activity based, and he was vig shot in that game not modkilled. JJD has done nothing also. If JJD does something I am fine with switching.
On May 20 2013 01:52 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
You can't meta activity on one previous game, because it doesn't support or deny anything. OK there are two useless players. Player 1 I expect nothing from Player 2 I expect something from Until player 2 meets my expectations I want to lynch him over player 1.
So why the F does he end up voting sputnik????
On May 20 2013 02:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 02:10 s0Lstice wrote:
Oy the claim
##unvote
All things considered, I'd be down with a sputnik lynch. I'm a little worried he rolled blue, and that's what his 'VT claim' was, but I have a history of being derpy around blues. Outside of that though there's nothing in his filter that I like and he's useless.
Don't want to lynch GK today, already said why.
Don't think I want to lynch JarJar....he is capable of being a perfectly active little townie from what I'm seeing in the game Marv was talking about. He says during the week he will do better, so I want to wait and see on him.
Need to read up on Dandel, that's what I'm gonna do now. This is a good point actually. Im fine lynching him later if he doesn't drastically improve. ##unvote:
##Vote Sputnik
That explains why he'd take his vote off me. But it doesn't explain why he'd vote for the person that he had spent the previous 3 hours telling us was probably town. That was really the person he thought was the best lynch?
I don't why people are reading DP as such a townie cause I'm definately not seeing it.
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Vote: Blazinghand
I think iamps claim and the 2 deaths pretty much seal it. The fact that he hasn't bothered trying to make any sort of a defense doesn't help either.
I'd be interested in hearing how anyone could justify putting a vote anywhere else.
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On May 21 2013 09:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 09:26 Stutters695 wrote:On May 21 2013 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 21 2013 09:07 s0Lstice wrote:
also, Marv
I'd like to hear about this some more:
It's players like s0lstice we need to keep our eyes on.
from the QT with iamp. What exactly is your read on me? I'd be interested to hear this too. And actually solstice your other post reminds me, where the FUCK is Dandel? ##Vote: Dandel IonI am aware I have other scumreads to push today but Dandel seems a good one as any to begin with; I can't simply go on marv's read of him alone. Dandel if you want to live through the day, fucking talk to me. So what makes you vote DI over BH. Do you not feel BH is nearly confirmed scum after finding out iamp is a mason? I can't honestly say how I feel about it. I have experienced scum BH before and as I've mentioned before some of it feels like it fits but not exactly. This could also very well be an easy frame attempt from mafia, or it could be exactly what it looks like and BH is scum. I am more than happy to consolidate on a BH lynch later on but considering the entire town is already down his throat, one extra person pushing him is one more person not trying to find other scum.
am I the only one that reads this as "I'll vote for BH if he's already dead but if there's a chance I can get someone else lynched I will"?
And what do you mean by "an easy frame attempt from mafia"? Doesn't frame imply that mafia did something to put suspicion on him? Where's the frame?
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On May 21 2013 21:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
jarjar, who are your other scum reads? YOU, Darthpunk and probably Grush
You - based on the CnP fail as well as just being inconsistant in your explaination for it.
DP - reasons already stated.
Grush - for not posting any real opinion yet this game.
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On May 21 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 22:15 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 21 2013 21:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
jarjar, who are your other scum reads? YOU, Darthpunk and probably Grush You - based on the CnP fail as well as just being inconsistant in your explaination for it. DP - reasons already stated. Grush - for not posting any real opinion yet this game. What else do you find suspicious about Spicy? Various players in this game are of the opinion that a mistake like that is more likely to come from a townie, why in particular do you disagree? Sure, I think the original post w/ could be chalked up to a townie mistake. But then he makes the post where he explains how it was a CnP error which just didn't make any sense? And when I call him out on it, he completely ignores it. It's only after I repost the case like 2 days later and several other people realize how bad it is and start prodding him for an answer does he decide to respond. And here are his explainations:
On May 20 2013 05:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
WoS i have a null read on. In my post where i voted jarjar and had to part of WoS in it, I was originally going to be putting my vote on WoS. I wasn't a fan of his earlier posts but the last parts sounded more towny so I decided to switch it someone else, jarjar. Didn't check my post before i published it so that was a fuck up on my part. "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." that was supposed to be the start of jarjar's look and the stuff before should have been deleted.
My vote there was always on jarjar. look at the time of my post and the time i posted in the vote thread. should be pretty close. On May 20 2013 05:30 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 05:26 iamperfection wrote:On May 20 2013 05:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
WoS i have a null read on. In my post where i voted jarjar and had to part of WoS in it, I was originally going to be putting my vote on WoS. I wasn't a fan of his earlier posts but the last parts sounded more towny so I decided to switch it someone else, jarjar. Didn't check my post before i published it so that was a fuck up on my part. "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." that was supposed to be the start of jarjar's look and the stuff before should have been deleted.
My vote there was always on jarjar. look at the time of my post and the time i posted in the vote thread. should be pretty close. why was there a wos quote right after it was supposed to be talking about jar jar It was a colossal fuck up in my post. didn't check it as i meant to delete everything about WOS. I can only guess that i saw the text above as stating the unsure statement and i didnt check below it.
I mean look @ that first post. He says he has a null read on WOS but that's where he was originally gonna put his vote? And then he says "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." was supposed to refer to me. Does anyone really feel that way about my posts?
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On May 21 2013 23:41 s0Lstice wrote:
JarJar
I'm going through your filter right now, and unless I somehow missed it, I don't see a single reference to GK.
What's your read and why? If I haven't mentioned him then nothing must have stood out to me as particularly scummy. I've liked alot of his reads (obviously not his scumread of me but I feel like it was a true read). The not reading his PM thing seems terrible but not really scummy. I think he's probably town.
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On May 22 2013 00:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
What the fuck is this? You show up to post fucking twice every other day, have no consistency in your scumreads, have the balls to point out some of my shit and then don't even call me a scumread? You're post looked suspicious to me so I pointed it out. That doesn't make you a scumread.
As far as suspicion on Spicy goes, I already re-attacked him for this if you'd read the thread and he explained it before that and as well when I attacked him pretty decently. I don't see what new evidence you've brought up here or why you're bothering pushing an ages-old matter that is barely relevant right now. I was asked
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I think the reason everyone is on my case and accussing me of bussing BH is because they don't want to believe that a relative noob was able to ID scum so early in the game. I'd like to point y'all to the last game I played where I got lynched day 1 and called out 2/3 of the scum team in my goodbye post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058¤tpage=14#279
Like what am I really being accused of?
The whole asking for credit for BH's flip? - The posts that s0Lstice quoted were all in reference to the same thing: DP calling me a top scumread. Most of those quotes were in the same exchange w/ marv.
As for misinterpreting iamps post: Marv, you admitted that he wasn't very clear in his meaning. You really don't believe I could have jumped to that conclusion based on his wording? I even put a disclaimer @ the end of my post that I wasn't sure if that was what he meant.
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On May 22 2013 12:24 Stutters695 wrote:
Calling out scum in a newbie game really doesn't mean much, and I guarantee you no one cares that a relative noob might be scum. Well I mean, people keep trying to say I'm bussing BH. So just wanted to point it out incase that was part of the reason people were quick to think that.
What do you make of my interactions with BH today for starters. IDK that's such a broad question. I guess I think it's wierd that you're suggesting not lynching him @ this point but I think that would be pretty ballsy for scum to do so not reading much into it. Is there something else I should be addressing?
On May 22 2013 12:30 Blazinghand wrote:JJD, the only two mentions of GK in your filter are here: Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 04:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Spicydinosaur
Guess everyone is believing BHs claim. :\
I like a spicy lynch way better then a GK or sputnik lynch. Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 00:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 21 2013 23:41 s0Lstice wrote:
JarJar
I'm going through your filter right now, and unless I somehow missed it, I don't see a single reference to GK.
What's your read and why? If I haven't mentioned him then nothing must have stood out to me as particularly scummy. I've liked alot of his reads (obviously not his scumread of me but I feel like it was a true read). The not reading his PM thing seems terrible but not really scummy. I think he's probably town. The second one specifically in response to people noting you've made no reads on him. I'd like to you to clarify: which of his reads have you liked?
I liked his early read on how Vayne was acting exactly how he acted in the previous game when people started to jump on him for his bad day 1 play.
He's been on you and grush who are scumreads of mine
He ended up w/ his vote on spicy w/ me day 1 and has made cases against him.
Also, what do you think of this case against him?: (link)
It's totally a meta case. Nothing you mention that he did seems suspicious on it's own. And he didn't jump on on sputnik even though he could have w/o raising suspicion so you saying he was "trying to stay on the popular wagon" is false.
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K, My boss is on vacation for the rest of the week so I have alot of time the next 2 days. Gonna go reread everything from BH because I was pretty much writing off everything he had to say as scumtalk.
I'll be posting thoughts shortly.
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K, gonna comment on BHs reads + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2013 04:23 Blazinghand wrote:
So, I'm not going to be around for the flip. I'm going to start with my two big townreads.
Marvellosity is town. I have NEVER been more sure of someone being town in my mafia career. Also, he's the only guy who's like never mislynched grush
DarthPunk is town. I'm less sure of this, since he didn't do anything at all for all of D2 (not even really pressuring other people! But I think it's unlikely scum would get all on a townie for a perceived scumslip.
Scumreads:
[b]GK. We all know why. By met and activity and etc.
WoS is scum. He started shitting up the thread as soon as people unvoted me, he's been pushing scum agenda, etc etc.
DI is scum. scroll up to see.
yeah it's a list post, it wont' earn my any cred. GK > WoS > DI in terms of priority
I agree w/ BH about Marv and I'm pretty surprised to see people acting suspicious of him. Yamato saying that "Marv is "pro-town" as mafia" seems like a silly thing to say. Doesn't that imply that he'd be a bad scum player? Like his only actual reasoning for suspecting marv is that he didn't have better reads day 1 and voted for sputnik. Even though like half the town did the same thing including yamato himself.
I don't agree w/ BH about DP though. I didn't think there was anything scummy about his push for BH but everything I mentioned previously still stands. The "Scummy post from s0lstice if bh flips green." quote right before the flip should certainly raise eyebrows.
I posted my thoughts on GK. I think he's town and dont feel like he's really done anything too scummy in this game.
I think WoS is probably town. I think his back n forth w/ BH was him legit getting pissed @ someone he thought was scum. I just can't imagine scum posting like that with someone that he knows is gonna flip green. It's not like he needed to put more pressure on BH since he was surely getting lynched.
K, I think I'm leaning scum on DL. Filter is pretty bad. Just complete trolling and sheeping w/o giving any insight. There's other people I'd rather lynch tomorrow but if it comes down to a race between DL and GK (which seems likely) then this is where I'd put my vote.
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On May 24 2013 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
So you think that DP is scum, yet spent an entire day tunneling the everliving fuck out of a townie which ISN'T scummy? I really don't understand this analysis. It looks like you're just picking and choosing the points you want to your own ends. I didn't say that DP tunneling BH makes him look town. But no I don't think it makes him look scummy. I could see a town DP doing the same thing. My case against DP is not because he pushed for BHs lynch
Also how the fuck has GK not done anything scummy? Even if you think his posting has been from a town perspective, a LOT of the shit he's done has been scummy/anti-town from a purely objective standpoint. The main thing I have against GK is the whole not reading his role thing, which as I said before, is pretty terrible and I agree w/ marv that it's against the spirit of the game. But I don't think it's a mafia play at all. I think the majority of the case against GK is meta and no I haven't seen anything all that scummy from him in this game.
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On May 24 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2013 01:10 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 24 2013 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
So you think that DP is scum, yet spent an entire day tunneling the everliving fuck out of a townie which ISN'T scummy? I really don't understand this analysis. It looks like you're just picking and choosing the points you want to your own ends. I didn't say that DP tunneling BH makes him look town. But no I don't think it makes him look scummy. I could see a town DP doing the same thing. My case against DP is not because he pushed for BHs lynch Wasn't the thrust of your case against DP that he dropped the case on BH when BH originally claimed, and then 'handily' jumped on the 'scumslip'? Can you remind me what your case on DP actually is? I thought he was bussing. That part of my case doesn't work anymore.
I thought that him calling me a scumread even though I was pushing the guy he caught scumslipping was suspicious. So him voting for BH is somewhat related to my case against him. But what I'm saying is I don't think that him pushing for the lynch of a townie is suspicious.
Here's more of my case against him:
On May 21 2013 01:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:OK, Check out how hard DarthPunk was defending Sputnik Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too? It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh? On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Also you guys use meta way to much OK. Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum. Sputnik is KNOWN to lurk as town and ???? as scum. Therefore there is no reason to believe sputnik lurking has anything at all to do with his alignment. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 01:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
DP, I really don't like your meta comparison with sputnik. Sure he was inactive and got modkilled, but that's not really what I'm looking at at least.
In the game in the database, he made one, er, "trolly/fun" (? bad description maybe) post but then all of his subsequent posts were on the ball, talking about the game, calmly written. He asked about mayors running, he gave his preference (none :p) on the candidates, he gave his opinion.
In this game he's yapped around in some weird Les Mis character I guess and offered no opinions on anything, other than a silly little list post.
I think the use of meta here to clear his play is completely incorrect. it was purely activity based, and he was vig shot in that game not modkilled. JJD has done nothing also. If JJD does something I am fine with switching. Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 01:52 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
You can't meta activity on one previous game, because it doesn't support or deny anything. OK there are two useless players. Player 1 I expect nothing from Player 2 I expect something from Until player 2 meets my expectations I want to lynch him over player 1. So why the F does he end up voting sputnik???? Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 02:13 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 02:10 s0Lstice wrote:
Oy the claim
##unvote
All things considered, I'd be down with a sputnik lynch. I'm a little worried he rolled blue, and that's what his 'VT claim' was, but I have a history of being derpy around blues. Outside of that though there's nothing in his filter that I like and he's useless.
Don't want to lynch GK today, already said why.
Don't think I want to lynch JarJar....he is capable of being a perfectly active little townie from what I'm seeing in the game Marv was talking about. He says during the week he will do better, so I want to wait and see on him.
Need to read up on Dandel, that's what I'm gonna do now. This is a good point actually. Im fine lynching him later if he doesn't drastically improve. ##unvote:
##Vote Sputnik That explains why he'd take his vote off me. But it doesn't explain why he'd vote for the person that he had spent the previous 3 hours telling us was probably town. That was really the person he thought was the best lynch? I don't why people are reading DP as such a townie cause I'm definately not seeing it.
And this is an exchange we had early in the game where I felt like he was just looking for a reason to put a vote on me:
On May 20 2013 01:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 01:25 DarthPunk wrote:On May 20 2013 01:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum. Stop Lying. I'm KNOWN to lurk on the weekends. The last game I played started on the weekend. I was town and got voted off day 1 because of lurking. My activity is always gonna be alot better during the week once I'm sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours. I coached your scum game. Marv hosted it. I think we know what we are talking about. any quit with the excuses and make a case on someone that isn't blazinghand. I like how you turn it around and say I'm making excuses and not calling you out for lying. You said that I'm known to not lurk as town. I pointed out how my last game I was voted out as town for lurking. So no, you don't know what you're talking about. Or you're purposefully misrepresenting the facts.
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OK, I get that everyone respects and listens to marv, but I think he's wrong here. Lynching the SK is a bad play.
If we lynch DL then we're crossing our fingers that there's only 3 scum. Otherwise we lose to the NK. Now marv already acknowledged that in his analysis.
On May 24 2013 06:57 marvellosity wrote:
If it's 5-4-1, we have two options:
1) lynch SK, we lose immediately to the nightkill
2) lynch mafia, when after nightkills it would be either 4-1-1 (where we can lynch the SK) or 3-2-1, where the game is out of our hands Now first off this math is wrong. After nightkills it doesn't go to 4-1-1 or 3-2-1. It goes to 4-2-1 or 3-3-1.
But I don't even think that's what would happen, for 2 reasons:
1. I don't think DL can afford to shoot town and risk it going to 3-3-1. That gives way too much power to mafia and he almost surely can't win. I think he either has to shoot mafia or not shoot @ all
2. Wouldn't mafia shoot @ DL? They don't really differentiate between non-scum. Doesn't it make sense that they shoot @ the guy who has KP and will almost surely not get protection?
And then like marv said, if it's 6-3-1 then we're fine either way. The only issue is that we have to be pretty positive that we're lynching scum today. That's the only way we guarantee that we don't lose the game on this lynch.
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