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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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On May 29 2013 03:00 marvellosity wrote: WoS, I'm struggling to find any sort of consolidated case on JJD in your filter. Can you throw some points together? "there are so many things that seem ridiculous to me", I'd like to know what these are especially is baiting you into arguing, I have no idea where your head is at. It couldn't be much more polite. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On May 29 2013 03:29 marvellosity wrote: like seriously, if you think this: is baiting you into arguing, I have no idea where your head is at. It couldn't be much more polite. I was referring to telling me to fuck off and threatening to ignore me. I am responding to your other post. give me a sec. | ||
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marvellosity
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So don't give me this "players who think they are too good to listen" bullcrap, WoS. | ||
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marvellosity
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Did you think of that, hmm? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On May 29 2013 03:27 marvellosity wrote: one of those posts was a semi-serious post-counting exercise one of them was a post concluding with "i think the scummy things work out" one of them was a post about the DI lynch that I didn't think was that atrocious one of them was a post that I actually responded to asking you questions in the first place. how am I being a douche when I asked you perfectly nicely for some consolidated reasons, and you just started swearing at me? Get a grip. To repeat, you said there are "so many things that seem ridiculous to me" you pointed out one you find ridiculous, what are the other 'so many'? Because in those posts alone your conclusions weren't as firm as you're making them out to be now. 1) Does it have merit or not? I wouldn't lynch him on it alone but there are obviously other contributing factors I find significant. 2) Nobody commented on it. When I filter dive I try to consider things from scum and town perspectives and I often end up with a lot from both sides. I did the same thing with Palmar in LXI and the same kind of post where I am clearly looking for discussion and feedback goes ignored. 3) Difference of opinion then. I disagree 4) You comment on the fact that I call his posts ridiculous and yet you don't comment on the actual evidence I bring in that same post. | ||
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marvellosity
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I don't understand why that was so much to ask. I mean if it really is too difficult to show me 4 or 5 examples of ridiculous posts, then just say so and I can think about something else. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On May 29 2013 03:32 marvellosity wrote: Yes, and maybe I wouldn't have told you to fuck off if you hadn't swore at me 5 times in the preceding posts and accused me of ignoring you when I've been talking to you all game. Did you think of that, hmm? Fair point I suppose, but I didn't feel great about our exchanges all game, and I believe I've mentioned that. They feel fairly one-sided and in some of them you have shut down my line of thinking. Apparently that's how you play town, so fine. Yes you have been around to talk to me but it's only in those short bursts and when I take the time and effort to make a real case and post a lot regarding somebody, that kind of thing goes ignored. I still remember the huge fight in The Game where RoL argued that there should be less spam and more consolidation/big cases yet no one seems to want to read big cases. Ever. So frustration explained, let me go find a couple more examples if the ones I gave aren't good enough. | ||
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marvellosity
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Now we've argued for a page because you decided that ranting at me for ignoring you and not reading or whatever was a more productive thing than just engaging with my original point. I'm not here to bloody battle with you, I'm here trying to engage you on your read because I'm interested, except you did your best to shut me down by shouting at me for no particular reason, and that sucks. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Read this On May 20 2013 01:53 JarJarDrinks wrote: Obviously I think he's lying, otherwise I wouldn't still be voting vor him. He claimed after everyone started voting him to try and save himself. I'd assume that's a standard scum play. If I had to choose for someone else to be lynched, I'd pick grush. Here's a slight case I posted against him: + Show Spoiler + On May 18 2013 21:09 JarJarDrinks wrote: So, in case I'm missing anything: this STARSENSES thing: I get that it's something grush usually says and didn't this game. Is there more to it than that or is that about it? I'd think that'd be a pretty dumb scum mistake if that's all it is. Though he'd obviously know all that so I don't think I'd read anything into it. HOWEVER, looking @ his filter, I'm trying to see if there's anything that looks townie about him. First he tells sputnik that he's playing textbook scum but when I ask about it he says he sounds noob town. The only other insight he offered was jumping on vayne. The reason I questioned him here is it just sounds like he knows sputnik is town and playing bad. Not quite as sure about him as I am BH, but he's my second choice. and then this. On May 20 2013 04:51 JarJarDrinks wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Spicydinosaur Guess everyone is believing BHs claim. :\ I like a spicy lynch way better then a GK or sputnik lynch. He's SO SURE about BH forever and wants to make his read look genuine in spite of the claim. Only when he feels thread sentiment is changing does he get worried and feel that he has to remove his vote. No explanation besides 'welp no one else is voting BH so i'd better not either!' Here's another: On May 21 2013 22:15 JarJarDrinks wrote: YOU, Darthpunk and probably Grush You - based on the CnP fail as well as just being inconsistant in your explaination for it. DP - reasons already stated. Grush - for not posting any real opinion yet this game. I commented at the time on how horrible this post is. One out of the three is someone he hasn't even mentioned yet. DP - dumb but whatever, he explained it. The Spicy push makes no sense here to me at all based on the simple reasoning of his copy and paste mistake. Furthermore he only really explains himself ONCE AGAIN when asked. Looks here like a weak attempt to provide random reads to get town off his back, which it didn't. Call it a 'feels' thing from me if you must, marv, but I feel like JJD's posting all game has been needlessly aggressive, following town sentiment when it's convenient but flagrantly against town sentiment at other times, and overall it seems like he only reads the thread and explains himself when pressured to. The 'ridiculousness' stems from the fact where he is just being weird with his aggression and the times where he gets called out for not reading, and then is forced to. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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marvellosity
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As for the first two - would you suggest he left his vote wasted on BH when no-one else was voting him? What would you expect a townie JJD who was convinced of BH's guilt to do at that stage? | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 29 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Call it a 'feels' thing from me if you must, marv, but I feel like JJD's posting all game has been needlessly aggressive, following town sentiment when it's convenient but flagrantly against town sentiment at other times, and overall it seems like he only reads the thread and explains himself when pressured to. The 'ridiculousness' stems from the fact where he is just being weird with his aggression and the times where he gets called out for not reading, and then is forced to. also this made me lol. this was originally my contention way back when, and you weren't sure what i was talking about. remember?  | ||
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marvellosity
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Probably we need to lynch between JJD and GK. They're the least 2 active people by far. One is probably mafia and one is probably SK. eenie meenie miney mo | ||
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marvellosity
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GK is basically just voting to save himself by voting for JJD JJD is voting for s0lstice instead of just voting to save himself by voting for GK ergo GK is more likely SK as his only remit is to survive, JJD would have a team behind him so he doesn't have to play that way ##unvote ##Vote: jarjardrinks | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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##Vote: Goodkarma I don't really want to vote him. I agree that he's most likely SK. But I do know that if I get lynched it's definately game. gonna respond to stuff soon. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On May 29 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Okay, marv already touched on this but I'll add: are you kidding me? Please answer marvs question: should I have just left my vote on BH?Here's one right off the bat. Read this and then this. He's SO SURE about BH forever and wants to make his read look genuine in spite of the claim. Only when he feels thread sentiment is changing does he get worried and feel that he has to remove his vote. No explanation besides 'welp no one else is voting BH so i'd better not either!' Here's another: Well it's dumb of me to defend my read of spicy @ this point but you're writing off the CnP thing as no big deal when several people agreed w/ me about it. And I still to this point don't understand how people are ok w/ grush.I commented at the time on how horrible this post is. One out of the three is someone he hasn't even mentioned yet. DP - dumb but whatever, he explained it. The Spicy push makes no sense here to me at all based on the simple reasoning of his copy and paste mistake. Furthermore he only really explains himself ONCE AGAIN when asked. Looks here like a weak attempt to provide random reads to get town off his back, which it didn't. As for you and Marv having a feeling about me: well, there's not much I can say to that. I get that my reads have not been good this game, but bad reads <> scum. | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
goodkarma (3): VayneAuthority, JarJarDrinks (3): WaveofShadow, goodkarma, s0Lstice (0): Not Voting (2): grush57, s0Lstice JarJarDrinks is set to be lynched. Deadline is in ~1 hour. | ||
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