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s0Lstice
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s0Lstice
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The funny thing is, you give me shit for how I pushed Marv, but it's not that far off from your treatment of me. Anyway though, we've been pretty awesome so far at lynching townies, so why stop now right? | ||
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s0Lstice
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WoS- I was reading your conversation with Marv about JJ. It devolved into an argument, so I peeled away and spent the time in JJ's filter for myself. There was one post in particular that you both talked about, Marv called it 'the worst post' in his filter. This was my biggest takeaway from your conversation. I agree that it looks awful, but I got really stuck on the couple townie looking posts I was talking about. Marv, I have to believe you are town with the way the votes went down. | ||
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s0Lstice
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The bit you just pointed out about JJ is really good. s0l is def scum-->getting nervous about marv-->SK must kill scum-->so he kills.....marv somehow. Concerning Vayne, I also feel like he is not adapting new information into his reads. I think I said this earlier, but it's like he's making reads in a vacuum. Not adjusting, not pushing, nothing....just making them for the sake of making them. I know for sure I talked earlier about his Spicy NK analysis where it was pointed out to him that Spicy was a parity cop and hence couldn't be breadcrumbing results of his night checks...and instead of taking this information in and attempting to fix his analysis he just stopped. On grush, I noticed in this game that the first time he said starsenses after being forced to, it wasn't bolded and green. I feel like when he says starsenses and means it, the formatting is always there. I need to look again at the games DP linked to see if he's ever said it without the formatting. Like..could he have been trying to leave himself an out for the postgame hellstorm he is sure to hear if he is in fact not town? He did eventually format it, but only after additional pressing. | ||
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On May 30 2013 02:06 DarthPunk wrote: Grush is going to get lynched all the time without starsenses. If he wasted it for 1 win as scum then I am fine with just policy lynching him day one in every single game from now on. Yea me too. This is the issue, because he is trapped between a rock and a hard place. There really isn't a good way to go here...either he abides by starsenses all the time and then can't play the game as scum ever...or he sheds the starsenses thing (by lying in a game about it) and he gets policy lynched a ton because there's no other way to discern his alignment reliably. If he's fucked either way, I don't think either way should be ruled out. At least by taking the lying route and getting rid of starsenses, in the future he stands a chance of playing either alignment by upping his game a little and reasoning with people. | ||
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s0Lstice
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On May 28 2013 13:45 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't see any contradiction I am telling it how it is. you guys are the 3 scum left. WIFOM won't phase me You are addressing WoS here. So WoS is scum. On May 30 2013 02:25 VayneAuthority wrote: whoa guys just because I started a lynch on some one I genuinely thought was mafia and they piled on late votes at the end does not make me mafia. Some of what you guys are saying doesnt even make sense, if there was 3 mafia left and an SK then one of your town reads cannot be town. At the very least we know that JJD is basically confirmed scum by the late votes piled on in the wrong direction, wouldn't be surprised if one of grush or s0lstice is his accomplice and the SK could be on either wagon since hes uninformed. The post you just made, WoS is not listed as an accomplice. I am however, despite the fact I did the opposite of this: On May 29 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote: why would anyone town still not have voted with 30 minutes left besides grush Hes just gonna vote for JJD last second and were gonna lose, gee gee You are referencing me here. Explain please. | ||
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Are you here for awhile? | ||
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To the scum team- Well done. This was a dominant victory, even with one of your number effectively saccing himself (though that wasn't without its uses). Two of you effectively got put into the town column for the majority of the game (vayne/WoS) and you played into these parts very well. The SK ploy was pretty meh, I think town was sort of set-up into assuming there's an SK. WoS-- you totally blind-sided me. All I'm gonna say is well played sir. You played the try-hard townie that nobody listens to perfectly, enough to make me glaze over the few times you dropped the ball. Vayne-- much the same. I considered most of what you said inane and useless. This is not an impingement on you, rather it's an impingement on me that I didn't start thinking more critically about it until the numbers pointed to you pretty much having to be scum. I will say though that once I unblindspotted you, you looked pretty scummy, and if I hadn't towncleared you early early on I'd have been on your case. JarJar-- Looking back, your activity was really a big tell for you. This was part of WoS' bus on you that I derped. Props for sticking around alive for as long as you did, but I would be very wary of not spending enough time in the thread posting, especially if you claim to be more active on X days and less active on others. Dandel-- Yea I just don't get you, but no hard feelings. If you just get bored playing scum, then so be it  _____________________________________ Marv-- Apologies for the dumb arguments and suspecting you. I feel like you bore the largest percent of my derp this game. There were definitely times where I was like..fuck, if Marv is town, where is the leadership? This is lazy and retarded thinking. Your last huge post was pretty boss; it's a shame we just ran out of time (wtf mafia vig?) BH-- I don't understand why you put yourself in a situation to be so neglectful of this game early on. It's just really presumptuous of you to expect a free pass until you get less busy. That was awful. More awful though was the lynch on you. I think it was a 'frog in a pot of water' type deals...where the frog doesn't jump out and just dies if you slowly heat the water to a boil, but if you drop the frog in a pot of boiling water it jumps out immediately. That's really morbid, but you get the idea lol. If I was dropped into the game in the midst of your final postings I would have fought hard to keep you alive. Something kind of funny...when you said 'balls air etc.' I went to google to see if Les Mis had a juggler character (I've never seen the movie or read the book). Kudos on your last will reads (really good), but eff you for dicking around for an entire cycle <3 iamp-- Mason claim was kinda silly, but overall you did an excellent job of looking town. I remember reading your newb games I think...you're sort of a big ticket item around here now so that was news to me. Overall though, good reads and a good townie. I appreciate you calling out some of my dumber shit in the obs qt. Gotta shake the rust off somehow. Yamato-- thanks for the easy town read. To be fair though, in a darker moment of doubt I wrote a big ass case on you and then scrapped it when I checked your meta. That's on me and not you though lol. grush-- Grape jelly and pop music. Also, pod of dolphins. GK-- I feel like complete shit for how this game went for you. The role-PM thing is rage inducing, but I understand where you are coming from. It has to suck to draw a lot of fire on day 1 no matter how you play. My gut on numerous occasions said you were town, but I rationalized my way out of it and ended up being all over the place on you. Anyway, I hope to play with you again so I can see firsthand your excellent post day 1 town play. Stutters-- possibly the easiest town read to make after day 1. Your thread interjections, while infrequent, were pertinent and often in-line with my thoughts, and/or helped the current discussion. Your far and above effort in comparison to your other games was really appreciated. Spicy-- Edit your posts man ;D It's a shame you got offed before you could actually do something with your role. I zipped through the post game discussion thus far so you might have said something already, but who did you check night 2? Otherwise though, good game from a newer player. I hope to see you soon in other games. DP-- Congrats as well to you on your win. You were town enough to not get lynched, but not TOO town so as to draw an NK (though this was a close call from the scum QT). I'd say you played a pretty townie 3rd party, and coasted enough through a very mystified game for town to an easy win. You suspected me late, so if you have any comments out of game where we aren't worried about discerning alignment about what I did to look suspicious, I'd welcome them. sputnik.theory-- Rayn-- Another easy town read. I honestly don't have much to say about your play. You call a lot of people scum by nature I think, and when I felt good about the town-read on you I didn't really focus on who you thought was scum. I would have when we got further in and you narrowed it down, but your N1 death precluded that possibility. But yea thanks for looking townie. The iamp vote was pretty lulz though ;D On my play-- Really bad. Apologies to town for making shit reads and looking suspicious. Getting on GK when it was between JJ and GK may have been my lowest moment, combined with the flubbing of my read on JJ. WoS bought me a ticket on the damn bus and I was like NERP IMA WALK. Anyway though, for those who care, I'm actually not terrible at finding scum and appearing townie, so hopefully you don't judge me too harshly by this game. As I said a few times, this is my first game after a (very busy) break from mafia. One thing I am proud of in my play this game though is that I wasn't afraid to change my mind. On the setup-- It's hard for town not to assume an SK. I also hate the idea of a mafia vig..way too powerful. And yea, town KP would have been nice. What a difference it would have made especially this game...how would we have played if some opportunistic vig had offed BH after the slip, or Dandel? We were pretty hurt by having those lynches locked in early I feel (though town shared some of the blame for this). | ||
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s0Lstice
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Also blaming it on Marv is pretty bullshit. You really should be owning up to the fact the driving force behind your mislynch was you not giving a shit on day 1, because more likely than not, the slip doesn't even happen if you actually had time for the game at that point. More, you had plenty of time to prove your innocence, but waited to do so. That's also on you. The sooner you start playing baller town, the sooner town as a whole can reconsider your lynch. You masoned Marv and really didn't do anything with it. That was a pretty important opportunity to prove your innocence, and you wasted it. | ||
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s0Lstice
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I don't think anybody is saying that you didn't play really well when you had the time. So, when you did care, it showed. To answer your question, the only thing you could have done differently is to start sooner. Even then, it may not have been enough. Stopping a lynch that is backed by an empty day 1 and a scum slip in 24 hours is really tough, especially when the people who were talking were keeping the lynch mostly on track. I don't think there was much you could have done better when you actually put the effort in. Scrabbling for town MVP and blaming others though is just really distasteful. We've recognized your play when you tried, and it's on you to just own the original mistake. It should end here. I don't really feel it's your place to be questioning others about why they didn't clean up your mess. You've since talked a little more on this though...I digress. | ||
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