Carnival Cruise Mafia - Page 4

On May 15 2013 11:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
GUYS LYNCH HIRO CAUSE HE IS A WHINY SCUM PLAYER AND GIVES NO FUCKS ABOUT LYNCHING HIS TARGET, OO. AND WANTS A NO LYNCH.

am I doing this right VE?

On May 14 2013 03:30 HiroPro wrote:
yo, let's lynch obviousone. if you haven't do so go back and look at his views on darthpunk, especially the point where he shifts from calling the claim meaningless to attacking him.

Look at the amount of times where he calls out a person for inactivity without actually bringing up something specific that he wants to ask them. It looks like someone trying to be seen as promoting discussion without actually doing anything.1)

the last list post where he said three people that would be good lynches looks like a straight fluff post. there's almost nothing in that post that's actually relevant to this game (most of it is just a lazy attempt at "meta") and what little is there isn't even true. He doesn't even say anything about oatsmaster beyond "i'm not sure how to tell if he's mafia. i'll look at his games later".2)

also note the way that obviousone responds to any accusations or suspicion which actually have reasons behind them (not just "oh you scum"). in almost all cases he responds with some irrelevant comment and tries to brush it away. 3)in general this is something that mafia are much more likely to do instead of trying to explain their own actions further.

##Vote ObviousOne

On May 14 2013 07:22 HiroPro wrote:
shirokami seems like a good lynch also.

On May 15 2013 04:58 HiroPro wrote:
viscera, do you actually think that you can get vayne lynched today?

On May 15 2013 05:34 HiroPro wrote:
s&b, how do you feel about lynching obviousone?

On May 16 2013 10:11 HiroPro wrote:
What reasons are there for a town player to outright follow another player just based on who they are? The most common are that they have a strong town read on that player and a reasonably good opinion of their ability or that they have such a high view of that person's ability that they'll blindly follow them, enamored by the thought that this player will solve the game for them and make everything right (a la prplhz/Mattchew).

In Vivax's posts, I don't see a single reason for thinking that Blazinghand is town. In fact, the only time Vivax ever mentions an opinion on Blazinhand's alignment (before following him) is when he says that BH reminds him more of his mafia play than his play as detective. After that there's never any indication of a reason for thinking BH is town that doesn't have to do with the push on WaveOfShadow. At the same time, when asked why he values BH's ability highly, Vivax can't (or won't) offer up a single reason or example.

There is a good reason for mafia to do this kind of play though: avoiding responsibility. The reasons that Vivax gives for WaveOfShadow being mafia are always balanced out by the explanation that he's mostly doing it because BH is so confident and gave a '10'. Mafia are often concerned about negative backlash from a mislynch and Vivax appears to use BH's presence as a way to avoid this danger and instead pin the blame on someone else.

On May 17 2013 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nah, VE is the funner vet to lynch.

On May 16 2013 06:14 Vivax wrote:
I think it will rather be me and/or BH. No one is considering us for lynch, and WoS is scum.

You know what to do if we die tonight. Lynch that dude. No WIFOM bullshit. Go read what dead people wrote.

On May 16 2013 07:47 Vivax wrote:


I have to say that you bother me somewhat, too, upon reading. You talked a lot about coming to the conclusion that prplhz is probably town and what he does is so bad but I hardly see you pushing cases on people since the one on OO.

Your whole push against OO looks like a calculated tunnel, your other reads are weird and don't include much reasoning. You don't inquire as much as I would want you to. You don't seem to give updates based on OO's newer play, but keep pointing to an old case.

There seems to be very few doubt in your filter. I initially saw your firm opinions as town tell, but since they're becoming too firm on the timeline, they are actually looking like agenda now.

I didn't check how my other reads treated you, but you sure are a good candidate for scum just based on that.

On May 16 2013 13:40 shirokami wrote:
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I just lost my hope on BH and vivax seems like a good guy, and I also want to see you hang buddy. Im like a the tramp dog from dat disney movie, on monday I eat at this italian who gives me pizza, next day I eat at donnie's who gives me some chicken. Im not a genius, I dont make posts that are hard to read because they are too long and full of emotional or useless bullshit, I dont say someone is scum because of his meta. I just like to agree with the towniest guy there is. BUT I will tell my OWN opinion when I seem it is necessary. but now, it is N1 and thx to some stupid people there were no-lynch. The NK will tell us something, And If I have an opinion about it, I will post it. My filter is short, and rayn and vivax can already tell that im town based on it, do you know why? IT IS EASY TO READ.

On May 15 2013 16:19 Vivax wrote:
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Nice voting fail
How can people bring up new lynch targets so close to deadline? Looking at the late vayne pushers here.

Vayne reacting openly anti-town is worth nothing though.

I wonder, why does nobody wonder that scum OBVIOUSLY wasn't pushing the WoS wagon? Unless you think me, BH and Shiro are scum, it gives you a good picture, but Shiro is confirmed town in my book, so lynch WoS please.

On May 15 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah that's all i need, shirokami is town.