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On May 13 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 05:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 13 2013 05:45 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Only think I don't like about your claim is why N0, DP? You're calling for us to waste a vigi shot that could be put to possible better use later on in the game. you don't have to shoot now.... Like obviously I don't want to die. I would RATHER be vigged than lynched though. if it comes to that. Hopefully you can all read my alignment by all the posts I am making clearly outlining the reasons behind my actions. How about you stop defending your sole action and start scumhunting instead? Ah LOL? I just claimed miller and am copping a ton of heat for it obviously. I don't want to get vigged so I am trying to be very clear about why i did what i did. I am trying to establish my innocence. Also half the thread haven't posted yet and you have absolutely fuck all in your filter so why don't you worry about yourself and i'll worry about myself ok? Also telling someone who is already active and posting to start scum hunting doesn't count as scum hunting either Well everyone who has posted so far besides you are probably town. I'm off to bed, cya tomorrow.
I would also like an answer on how the fuck you have a town read on everyone so far? because that sort of shit screams scum to me.
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On May 13 2013 06:04 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 05:55 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 05:53 ObviousOne wrote: I do not smell bad. I took a shower last night. And shame on you for sniffing me in public. For your own sake stop posting stuff like this and try and post something meaningful. No u? Your only claim to towniness is your "miller" claim. Mocsta tried that "I will be transparent with my actions" line and he ended up flipping scum at endgame so I'll just take that as a scum claim from you as well because fuck it, that's my prerogative. Town never needs to say that shit because they just do it by action and it's plain as day to anyone thinking about the game. You do it with words and not actions. You are scummy as fuck with this nonsense.
So you are now trying to use someone elses meta to call me scum? This is like the third game in a row someone has tried that on me. Scum every time.
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On May 13 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 06:02 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 13 2013 05:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 13 2013 05:45 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Only think I don't like about your claim is why N0, DP? You're calling for us to waste a vigi shot that could be put to possible better use later on in the game. you don't have to shoot now.... Like obviously I don't want to die. I would RATHER be vigged than lynched though. if it comes to that. Hopefully you can all read my alignment by all the posts I am making clearly outlining the reasons behind my actions. How about you stop defending your sole action and start scumhunting instead? Ah LOL? I just claimed miller and am copping a ton of heat for it obviously. I don't want to get vigged so I am trying to be very clear about why i did what i did. I am trying to establish my innocence. Also half the thread haven't posted yet and you have absolutely fuck all in your filter so why don't you worry about yourself and i'll worry about myself ok? Also telling someone who is already active and posting to start scum hunting doesn't count as scum hunting either Well everyone who has posted so far besides you are probably town. I'm off to bed, cya tomorrow. I would also like an answer on how the fuck you have a town read on everyone so far? because that sort of shit screams scum to me. lololol I'm pretty sure I know exactly why he said that. Share your secret?
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I kind of feel good about all this talking in a way. Bypassed the policy talk, although prome still want to policy lynch me.
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On May 13 2013 06:14 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 06:08 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 06:04 ObviousOne wrote:On May 13 2013 05:55 DarthPunk wrote:On May 13 2013 05:53 ObviousOne wrote: I do not smell bad. I took a shower last night. And shame on you for sniffing me in public. For your own sake stop posting stuff like this and try and post something meaningful. No u? Your only claim to towniness is your "miller" claim. Mocsta tried that "I will be transparent with my actions" line and he ended up flipping scum at endgame so I'll just take that as a scum claim from you as well because fuck it, that's my prerogative. Town never needs to say that shit because they just do it by action and it's plain as day to anyone thinking about the game. You do it with words and not actions. You are scummy as fuck with this nonsense. So you are now trying to use someone elses meta to call me scum? This is like the third game in a row someone has tried that on me. Scum every time. Lol so you just walked into that one. You cherry picked the part of my post I added for you to cherry pick and didn't bother to refute the rest. Scum or 3P, guys. You heard it here first.
OK so you put something ridiculous in your post that you KNEW was ridiculous in order for me to point out how ridiculous it was and that makes me scum or 3rd party?
Sounds like a post hoc rationalisation of a scummy post to me.
The other part of your post that i politely ignored was that i was expressing my intentions about trying to be open and transparent in my explanations directly after the usefulness of doing so was questioned. It was pretty obviously an explanation to someone on the value of establishing my innocence.
I have spoken about these concepts in several recent town games so if you want to apply meta how about you apply MY OWN and look through them.
Also does every one else notice the massive backflip and OMGUS as soon as I expressed suspicion towards Obvious? Or is it just me?
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On May 13 2013 06:26 chaoser wrote: ok, darth, getting off the defending for the moment and your discussion? with obviousone, who you might have a history with?
what do you think of promethelax and ray?
what about you obviousone? aside from darthpunk, do you have any thoughts on some of the other players?
I don't have a history with obvious. I played one newbie with him like a year ago.
Promethelax made a post saying I was an excellent policy lynch because it was a closed set up and I claimed miller and then left essentially. It is the very minimum in terms of contributions but I noted that prom said he would be less active than usual so we shall see. I certainly expect more from him than a weak policy lynch push but he is null.
Rayn hasn't really posted anything aside from joining everyone in shitting on my claim. Not really anything solid to go on either.
I am not sure what kind of read you can expect me to have on two borderline inactive players.
What do you think of my miller claim now that I have answered your questions? What do you think of rayns 'ridiculous statement?' How do you feel about obvious?
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anyway gone for a bit. Hope to see bustling activity when I return.
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On May 13 2013 12:37 kitaman27 wrote: I guess the point that I'm making is that he acknowledges how an uncontested miller claims can win games in the quote I provided and now he is arguing that a mafia miller claim would be crazy.
Not crazy, just not worth it nor consistent with my play as scum. The reason I say I would never do it as mafia is that the payoff is just not worth it.
I have never ever been lynched due to a cop check. If I were fake claiming miller I would have gone into this game literally deciding to cheese with a fake claim which only benefit is protecting me from something I have never had problems with and which drawbacks include potentially being vigged and put straight into the firing line.
The only way I can see a premeditated instant fake claim being worth it is if you were so bad as scum that you were almost guaranteed to be caught immediately and it was your only chance.
As you said earlier, claiming miller straight up is consistent with my viewpoint on miller claims.
SO either I A.) rolled miller and claimed, consistent with previous games miller policy.
B.) decided to immediately fakeclaim miller out of the blue in case I happened to be DT checked.
As oats said the upside to fakeclaim is negligible. It just isn't a safe play for scum to make. It is cheese essentially.
all I am asking is to be considered null which I think you will find is also consistent with that quote you pulled.
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On May 13 2013 12:49 kushm4sta wrote: OO is the towniest mother fucker in this thread right now IMO.
Really? he is screaming scum to me. Perhaps I am biased. Would you be able to point out the reasons behind your strong town read?
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On May 13 2013 13:23 ObviousOne wrote: Oats capitalizing on DP's suspicions or are you genuinely not sure why he thinks I'm scum? Well considering I haven't wrote a case on you yet i don't think his question could be anything other than genuine.
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On May 13 2013 13:29 ObviousOne wrote: Looks pretty retaliatory from here. Also noting you just had the opportunity to explain it in that post and you squandered it.
I poke and prob a bit before pushing hard. You can ask oats. did it to him last game I played.
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On May 13 2013 13:39 kushm4sta wrote: im gonna die because they are afraid of my skills <3
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On May 25 2013 18:21 ObviousOne wrote: Towns that get lazy deserve to to lose, and thus it is so.
That is such a cop out.
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On May 25 2013 19:07 ObviousOne wrote: Re read shiros filter and tell me that if you start from the position that he is scum that everything looks like a scum slip. He was the easiest lynch to push for anyone at this stage =[
Did you read ace's analysis? shiro should have looked townie night zero by the way he was talking about my claim and keeping me accountable by saying he would believe me when I lynch scum. He was a terrible lynch. you can't blame an apathetic town at LYLO because you will lose every game like that. Scum kills the good players first, so you are always gonna be left with kush and grush etc at LYLO (although kush played well best townie left by a long way)
It is such a cop out to say 'oh well all the townies were lazy of course we lost' just tell them who to lynch, but more importantly don't let town get to lylo. If town had caught scum earlier it wouldn't have mattered how active/inactive the town was at lylo, they would not have got there.
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