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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 08 2013 07:54 GMT
#361
VOTE COUNT:


Targe (1) AllHailHydraGod

eSpi.Casey (1) VayneAuthority

jrkirby (1) eSpi.Casey

shirokami (1) calgar

Not Voting: All the other cereals

late night snack is in ~18 hours. Voting is mandatory.

Currently Targe is set to be given tetanus by the Rusty Iron Spoon of Vengeance!!

If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
AllHailHydraGod
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
May 08 2013 10:12 GMT
#362
Just wanted to post my thoughts on Calgar after reading his filter. but then I saw this.

On May 04 2013 11:49 nobodywonder wrote:
btw i really applaud the choice of cereals

trix is very evil and gives diarrhea if you eat too fast or too much. good gf choice

wheaties are just stronk and good 3p killer

it may have been funnier with the cereal mascots considering they are so schizophenic, coco puffs bird, tony the tiger, cookie crisp wolf.

/spam so bored, post town, post...........


Could it be a scumslip? Why make that differentiation.. obviously as town you'd want everyone to post especially scum.

Calgar, seems unaffected by me having a townread on some people and him not being among them. I also don't like how he chose to steer discussion towards a lurker lynch policy so early on (first post of the game).
I feel like as a townie you'd want to see how people introduce themselves and what they choose to start talking about because that gives more info than if they agree on policy lynching lurkers or not. I feel like he shut a very important opportunity for reading players by doing that so early and practically inviting scum to post about a rather easy topic, or better yet ask others to post about it to seem implicated, like nobodywonders did Spicy for example.

So upon reading his filter I think a Calgar, nobodywonders, Targe scumteam is possible, meaning that he might be satisfied with my initial attempt at a read of a pool of townie looking players because his two scumbuddies are in that pool. And I've said that it's a superficial read so I figure maybe that's why he doesn't ask me anything about it.


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Sugarfluff
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden132 Posts
May 08 2013 10:56 GMT
#363
On May 08 2013 08:37 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 05:12 Sugarfluff wrote:
On May 07 2013 01:42 jampidampi wrote:
On May 07 2013 01:25 Sugarfluff wrote:
On May 06 2013 22:37 jampidampi wrote:
Sugarfluff, is there any non-jrkirby related reason that Calgar is scum? You really shouldn't associate before the flip.

On May 06 2013 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Keep in mind this is night one and not day 2, its pretty much the same thing as day one. The real game starts after PR roles gain info and people get killed.

Does this mean we won't your reasons for voting Targe until day two?



I realize we will have more information when day 2 begins and those with roles have gathered some info but I thought we could begin early. Even if kirby isn't mafia Calgar seemed to pick his suspicions consciously and I definitely find that suspicious on its own.

AllHailHydra seems like a good poster and I can't wait to study his reasoning's, I have to go now but looking forward to the game picking up.

Sorry, my post was a little unclear, the second part was at Vayne. I'd like to hear more about your suspicions on Calgar, how are his suspicions picked consciously? How does that make him scum?

Picked consciously as in he was very anti lurking/bad content posts and he brings that up but completely skips jrkirbys, whos big post doesn't come until later at which point Calgars reaction is nothing more than asking a short question to this lurker who up until that post has done nothing (I had not done much, but kirbys filter at that point is freakishly devoid of actual content).
As far as I'm concerned, shirokami's filter is the one that is frekishly devoid of actual content right now. Why aren't you more concerned about him as a lurker than jrkirby? shiro has given vague excuses and one read all game, way less than kirby has done. If I had briefly mentioned kirby initially instead of shiro, would you be suspicious of us two instead? As far as me "completely skip"ing kirby, you're just as guilty of completely skipping over casey and shiro.



Casey hasn't been that bad, although I don't have townread on him either. Shiros filter is indeed a very sad thing, and his continued delays are getting more and more suspicious. But people were already pointing out his lurking and voicing suspicions about it. I wanted to hear kirby speak up, and I wanted to see how you'd react. Quite frankly I thought you reacted poorly, but reading through my posts I realized that I never outright asked you, what do you think of kirby? You still have not given an opinion on him.
If something is funny, it is worth doing.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 08 2013 11:15 GMT
#364
On May 07 2013 17:10 nobodywonder wrote:
wow jampi's dead and no one says anything...

*sigh* i literally have no idea who is town... jampi was my strongest townread. i feel lost more, I hope I can figure stuff tomorrow and I'll try to post analyses.


So nobodywonder, you've been awfully quiet since the jampi lynch, have anything to say now?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 08 2013 14:36 GMT
#365
It looks like there is an early BW against jkirby.

Casey is voting him because of his lack of postings and not answering his questions. However what is troubling is targe now throwing his suspicion on jkirby. The last thing targe wrote was this on jkirby.

On May 08 2013 16:31 Targe wrote:
@jrkirby

To follow up from my previous post, you still haven't improved.
You've gone from a lot of one liners to hardcore lurking:

Show nested quote +
Vayne, you were talking about how a no lynch would be good, but you never did vote for one. Why?

This was your last post, you asked a question, yet when Vayne replies you do nothing with the information you gained, shirokami reacted, but not you.

Casey asks you a question about your voting, which you subsequently ignored:
Show nested quote +

You had 3 suspects, changed your vote to non of thoose 3 and ending up with no lynch. What happend to we fearing lynches and : Lynch whoever we think are scum ??

He's asking you why you changed to no lynch, you still haven't replied.

He asks later on for a reply:


Show nested quote +
Im waiting for you`r answears Jrkirby


Still no answer.

God damn it jkirby, reply, if you don't you're instantly scum in my eyes.


This reads as a preamble to a vote and something targe will look back to for his justifications for doing so. What is really troubling is that it seems targe is representing Casey in the paragraph as almost a team. Which is weird since targe and Casey have 0 conversations together. I wouldn't go far as to say they are scum team as my read on Casey wasn't scum. What I do think is happening is that targe is scum and he's trying to pile on a town early now through someone else's problem.

Even after targe's responses, I'm still not convinced of his townness. As such for now, I'm voting Targe.


We really need everyone to talk today, especially @vanye, @nobody, @jkriby, and shirokami.

eSpi.Casey
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway54 Posts
May 08 2013 16:02 GMT
#366
I just got home and im checking out the thread, its just sad how little post`s there are. We really need to get more activity, i think scum`s will have an easy game if we dont talk more then this, come on guys !

After dinner i read carefuly trough the post`s and try to come with some more read`s
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 08 2013 16:49 GMT
#367
On May 08 2013 23:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It looks like there is an early BW against jkirby.

Casey is voting him because of his lack of postings and not answering his questions. However what is troubling is targe now throwing his suspicion on jkirby. The last thing targe wrote was this on jkirby.

Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 16:31 Targe wrote:
@jrkirby

To follow up from my previous post, you still haven't improved.
You've gone from a lot of one liners to hardcore lurking:

Vayne, you were talking about how a no lynch would be good, but you never did vote for one. Why?

This was your last post, you asked a question, yet when Vayne replies you do nothing with the information you gained, shirokami reacted, but not you.

Casey asks you a question about your voting, which you subsequently ignored:

You had 3 suspects, changed your vote to non of thoose 3 and ending up with no lynch. What happend to we fearing lynches and : Lynch whoever we think are scum ??

He's asking you why you changed to no lynch, you still haven't replied.

He asks later on for a reply:


Im waiting for you`r answears Jrkirby


Still no answer.

God damn it jkirby, reply, if you don't you're instantly scum in my eyes.


This reads as a preamble to a vote and something targe will look back to for his justifications for doing so. What is really troubling is that it seems targe is representing Casey in the paragraph as almost a team. Which is weird since targe and Casey have 0 conversations together. I wouldn't go far as to say they are scum team as my read on Casey wasn't scum. What I do think is happening is that targe is scum and he's trying to pile on a town early now through someone else's problem.

Even after targe's responses, I'm still not convinced of his townness. As such for now, I'm voting Targe.


We really need everyone to talk today, especially @vanye, @nobody, @jkriby, and shirokami.




I'm simply trying to get things moving, no one is speaking today, and that's really not good, especially with voting in several hours.

Casey has started posting more since d2 began and he was the only one asking jkirby for answers so I pointed to him.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
eSpi.Casey
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway54 Posts
May 08 2013 17:14 GMT
#368
I refuse to belive that everyone is afk here..Its almost been two days now with very little activity. What about giving some thought`s about my post`s on Jkirby ? I would like to here others opinion, agree/disagree ?
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 08 2013 18:10 GMT
#369
So, vayne hid his analysis for NO REASON
vayne wanted a no-lynch
vayne thought it was good that our one most active town was killed only because he is a miller
vayne is playing scummy

and you are saying he is scummy town or some shit?

really guys.. ?
No clue.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 08 2013 18:20 GMT
#370
A bunch of players are US based and probably have jobs so they wont be able to post till later tonight, especially if they are west coast.

@casey, jkirby has barely posted since the start of day 2 and that is extremely troubling. It seems that you are suspicious of him for his complete lack of posting and that's it correct? Looking at your filter it seems you have been basically tunneling jkirby lately without really giving your opinions on the others. What do you think of targe? He's on a lot of people's scum radar and as I pointed out, is jumping on jkirby. Where do you stand on me as I've said the most in D2. Who is on your scum list besides jkirby?

my read on you right now is a newbie town give how you voted. You and I both voted for the lurker before the mod kill warning came up and the others insisted we switched. You went with the majority because you were unsure of your reads and you admit that was wrong. I now really want to see your updated reads.

I sympathize with you for the lack of postings, but you yourself can be a source of information by giving your thoughts.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 08 2013 18:26 GMT
#371
On May 09 2013 03:10 shirokami wrote:
So, vayne hid his analysis for NO REASON
vayne wanted a no-lynch
vayne thought it was good that our one most active town was killed only because he is a miller
vayne is playing scummy

and you are saying he is scummy town or some shit?

really guys.. ?


@shirokami, you really need to give your opinions about others besides vayne. He has a lot to answer for and we all know that. In the meantime you can be helpful by telling us what you think me, targe, casey, allhailhydragod. You have enough information to form an opinion on the ones I named and possibly the rest. Posting like what i juss quoted seems scummy.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 08 2013 18:36 GMT
#372
Uh I already explained why I hid my analysis, you guys either need to actually read the thread or stop posting.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 08 2013 18:37 GMT
#373
either shirokami is really good at playing the dumb mafia role or hes just garbage at this game, assuming the latter.
I come in for the scraps
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 08 2013 18:42 GMT
#374
On May 09 2013 03:10 shirokami wrote:
So, vayne hid his analysis for NO REASON
vayne wanted a no-lynch
vayne thought it was good that our one most active town was killed only because he is a miller
vayne is playing scummy

and you are saying he is scummy town or some shit?

really guys.. ?


Vayne's reason for withholding made sense, I was the one in question and even I can see that, getting rid of miller is a good thing, it means that any rolefinds will return true, we don't have to worry about it being true or false.

No lynch I don't agree with.

Shiro, if that's seriously your analysis for the day you need to perk up, that's poor.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
eSpi.Casey
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway54 Posts
May 08 2013 18:50 GMT
#375
@Spicydinosaur : Yes that is correct, his lack of post`s, and the fact that he have not answeared my question`s
+ Show Spoiler +
You are claiming town and saying we should lynch whoever we think are scum. And you will prove your townrole with fearless lynching and analysis. So my question is : Where are the fearing lynches and analysis ??

You figured out Nobodywonder, Shirokami and me to be the scumteam. Maybe one of them are, i haven done enough reading on them yet, i will come back to that. But we sure arent a scumteam. You proceed with voting Nobodywonder , then you change your vote to Targe , and in the very last chaning your vote to No lynch .

You had 3 suspects, changed your vote to non of thoose 3 and ending up with no lynch. What happend to we fearing lynches and : Lynch whoever we think are scum ??


My read on you is town : You have given answear`s to everyone who had any question`s for you. You ask alot of good question`s.

Im going to the gym now, il be back in 1,5 hour, i will then start to do some more analytic read`s and post them later this evening. I think you are right about me tunneling jkirby, and i should put my focus more on other`s now, astleast until Jrkirby replies.
AllHailHydraGod
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
May 08 2013 19:28 GMT
#376
So jarjar, jampidampi, jrkirby and nobodywonders were in a previous newbie game together. Can the remaining 2 players please try to give some meta insight? jrkirby do you think nobodywonders' play is any different than when he was town last game, and vice-versa.

It looks a little strange that the two people who are dead are from this group of players. Jarjar said NW was scummy but indistinguishable from his last games where he was town and he Had jrkirby as scummy for the no-lynch switch despite townread on him.

jampi on the other hand didn't even get to voice any kind of opinion about you two so that could be why he wound up dead, meaning you didn't want it to come to that.
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shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 08 2013 19:43 GMT
#377
Jampi was a clear town so that was not really a good thing even tho he flipped miller
No clue.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 08 2013 20:22 GMT
#378
Going to consolidate my vote to prevent a last second mafia bandwagon lynch
I come in for the scraps
eSpi.Casey
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway54 Posts
May 08 2013 20:31 GMT
#379
My Scumread`s

Jrkirby

Beacause of this, wich he havent replied for, and the fact that we havent heard from him for almost 2 days now


Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done.


I have some question`s for you @jrkirby

On May 04 2013 13:10 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +


+ Show Spoiler +
What I'd prefer is not to have lurkers. But I think we should lynch whoever we think is scum, and lurking contributes towards scumread in my book.


You are claiming town and saying we should lynch whoever we think are scum. And you will prove your townrole with fearless lynching and analysis. So my question is : Where are the fearing lynches and analysis ??

You figured out Nobodywonder, Shirokami and me to be the scumteam. Maybe one of them are, i haven done enough reading on them yet, i will come back to that. But we sure arent a scumteam. You proceed with voting Nobodywonder , then you change your vote to Targe , and in the very last chaning your vote to No lynch .

You had 3 suspects, changed your vote to non of thoose 3 and ending up with no lynch. What happend to fearing lynches and : Lynch whoever we think are scum ??


Shirokami]

You promise use good post/analytic`s several time`s. Im not impressed with your contribution. Look below how you promise to come with some big post when you get home, then you promise to catch up in 12 hour`s, and you serve us two small post`s ?

On May 05 2013 18:06 shirokami wrote:
@spicy
I'm traveling as I write back to home, still many kilometers to go but hey I will post something big after I get back home.

I'm sorry for not been posting anything with content.

Will tell you later why.




+ Show Spoiler +
On May 06 2013 03:53 shirokami wrote:
Im voting vayne for obvious scumslip: THERE ARE NO FRICKIN REASON TO NOT TELL YOU WHY SOMEONE IS SCUM IN A THREAD-ONLY GAME. It only looks bad and I think the reason in his vote against targe was because he has no reason. My logs are saying that targe is not scummy so thats it. I bet all my monnies that vayne flips scum.

Also about people voting JarJar, I like how he roasted jampidampi but they are both null for me right now, but they are definitely not scumbuddies, because only pro-scum even DARE do that kind of moves and this is not a pro-game. scum don't like attention.

Oh and people who sheep someone, Please say why. If you dont say why, thats useless and makes you look like a woolly babylonian.

@Calgar

Dude. you started the game with good discussion about LaL, but please contribute more, I want to see you post, because your filter is not fun.


@everyone

Feel free to ask anything.

On May 08 2013 10:22 shirokami wrote:
Im going to catch up in 12 hours or so. I still want to lynch vayne tho.


This is your catch up ??

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 09 2013 03:10 shirokami wrote:
So, vayne hid his analysis for NO REASON
vayne wanted a no-lynch
vayne thought it was good that our one most active town was killed only because he is a miller
vayne is playing scummy

and you are saying he is scummy town or some shit?

really guys.. ?


On May 09 2013 04:43 shirokami wrote:
Jampi was a clear town so that was not really a good thing even tho he flipped miller


That is my two biggest scumread`s for now, i will be reading trough Targe and Vayne`s filter`s now, i see many people are suspicious about them, i will post later when iv had time to read some more about them and have a better opinion myself.
eSpi.Casey
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway54 Posts
May 08 2013 20:39 GMT
#380
This was supposed to be in my last post

Shirokami Considering theese promises and looking at what post`s you have given, it seems for me like your agenda is to waste alot of time, and not help at all to catch some scum`s, and time is running out now, we really cant afford another mislynch. Did you read the rules about : Play to win ? Your not doing that right now..
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