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shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 08 2013 20:39 GMT
#381
Catchup is coming after I get out of bar
No clue.
AllHailHydraGod
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
May 08 2013 20:39 GMT
#382
On May 09 2013 05:31 eSpi.Casey wrote:

Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done.


lol what?

On May 07 2013 01:01 eSpi.Casey wrote:
Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done.


deja-vu
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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 08 2013 21:35 GMT
#383
@hydra
On May 08 2013 19:12 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
Just wanted to post my thoughts on Calgar after reading his filter. but then I saw this.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 11:49 nobodywonder wrote:
btw i really applaud the choice of cereals

trix is very evil and gives diarrhea if you eat too fast or too much. good gf choice

wheaties are just stronk and good 3p killer

it may have been funnier with the cereal mascots considering they are so schizophenic, coco puffs bird, tony the tiger, cookie crisp wolf.

/spam so bored, post town, post...........

Calgar, seems unaffected by me having a townread on some people and him not being among them. I also don't like how he chose to steer discussion towards a lurker lynch policy so early on (first post of the game).
I feel like as a townie you'd want to see how people introduce themselves and what they choose to start talking about because that gives more info than if they agree on policy lynching lurkers or not. I feel like he shut a very important opportunity for reading players by doing that so early and practically inviting scum to post about a rather easy topic, or better yet ask others to post about it to seem implicated, like nobodywonders did Spicy for example.
As far as I know, a lurker lynch policy is a common place to begin D1 discussion. I don't really see how you could read that one way or another as a result. It quickly transitions from the 'hi i'm xx, not much to talk about..." to something of substance, which can only be a good thing.

Let me get this straight - you're suggesting I stifled discussion by suggesting a topic of conversation? How is that possible because it seems to be a direct contradiction. I see it as giving people something to talk about and voice their opinion on. At the very least it shows that someone either ignores the topic if they don't reply to it. If they do, you get their opinions and more posting as a result. I don't see how I'm "practically inviting" active lurking, either, and even if it were to occur then they could be called out for doing so. As in something of substance to be analyzed. I think you're demonstrating poor logic here.

So upon reading his filter I think a Calgar, nobodywonders, Targe scumteam is possible, meaning that he might be satisfied with my initial attempt at a read of a pool of townie looking players because his two scumbuddies are in that pool. And I've said that it's a superficial read so I figure maybe that's why he doesn't ask me anything about it.
You've just pulled a 'sugarfluff' here and concocted a theory about my true motivations without basing it on anything. You're putting words in my mouth here. I think your case is a weak read with questionable logic because of the aforementioned reasons so I don't really have anything to further ask about.

@sugarfluff
On May 08 2013 19:56 Sugarfluff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 08:37 calgar wrote:
On May 08 2013 05:12 Sugarfluff wrote:
On May 07 2013 01:42 jampidampi wrote:
On May 07 2013 01:25 Sugarfluff wrote:
On May 06 2013 22:37 jampidampi wrote:
Sugarfluff, is there any non-jrkirby related reason that Calgar is scum? You really shouldn't associate before the flip.

On May 06 2013 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Keep in mind this is night one and not day 2, its pretty much the same thing as day one. The real game starts after PR roles gain info and people get killed.

Does this mean we won't your reasons for voting Targe until day two?



I realize we will have more information when day 2 begins and those with roles have gathered some info but I thought we could begin early. Even if kirby isn't mafia Calgar seemed to pick his suspicions consciously and I definitely find that suspicious on its own.

AllHailHydra seems like a good poster and I can't wait to study his reasoning's, I have to go now but looking forward to the game picking up.

Sorry, my post was a little unclear, the second part was at Vayne. I'd like to hear more about your suspicions on Calgar, how are his suspicions picked consciously? How does that make him scum?

Picked consciously as in he was very anti lurking/bad content posts and he brings that up but completely skips jrkirbys, whos big post doesn't come until later at which point Calgars reaction is nothing more than asking a short question to this lurker who up until that post has done nothing (I had not done much, but kirbys filter at that point is freakishly devoid of actual content).
As far as I'm concerned, shirokami's filter is the one that is frekishly devoid of actual content right now. Why aren't you more concerned about him as a lurker than jrkirby? shiro has given vague excuses and one read all game, way less than kirby has done. If I had briefly mentioned kirby initially instead of shiro, would you be suspicious of us two instead? As far as me "completely skip"ing kirby, you're just as guilty of completely skipping over casey and shiro.



Casey hasn't been that bad, although I don't have townread on him either. Shiros filter is indeed a very sad thing, and his continued delays are getting more and more suspicious. But people were already pointing out his lurking and voicing suspicions about it. I wanted to hear kirby speak up, and I wanted to see how you'd react. Quite frankly I thought you reacted poorly, but reading through my posts I realized that I never outright asked you, what do you think of kirby? You still have not given an opinion on him.
Well kirby has been gone for basically 2 days now so he's basically lurking as hard as shiro is, except he was more useful before and had a decent post speculating on a team. I think I read town because I understand how he was bothered by the late bandwagon switch. Switching to no lynch was a weird way to go about it but I think the meta from their previous games may have affected his views in a way which looks odd to us. Having said that, I don't really understand why he has disappeared for so long and I don't really see scum disappearing for 2 straight days, though who knows with WIFOM and all. So I'll say slight town but very confused as to why he has vanished.

Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 08 2013 21:51 GMT
#384
Voted shirokami because obviously a post on jkirby is pointless if someone lurks for two days straight.
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AllHailHydraGod
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
May 08 2013 22:04 GMT
#385
@calgar
It might be just me but I don't consider talking about lurker lynch policy useful at all. If I was mafia I'd be glad to have something like this to talk about because there's no way I'd give myself away, blending in is just too easy. So I'm not exactly sure why you think that you needed to force discussion on such a topic, it looks like you honestly think that it helps town so either you're townie who just doesn't think like me or you're scum.

On May 09 2013 06:35 calgar wrote:
Let me get this straight - you're suggesting I stifled discussion by suggesting a topic of conversation? How is that possible because it seems to be a direct contradiction. I see it as giving people something to talk about and voice their opinion on. At the very least it shows that someone either ignores the topic if they don't reply to it.

If someone ignores the topic or not what does that tell you about them? I just don't see any way how you could interpret any reaction or input on the matter with regard to alignment, so in my view it's a surrogate for any real discussion. Even the lack of a clear theme for discussion would've been better than this one, because it would've kept scum (and I'm not implying you're not scum, on a contrary) guessing about what to talk about, because not talking about anything would make them look bad.
If you did want to start something a RVS for example would've been way better.
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
May 08 2013 22:10 GMT
#386
VOTE COUNT:


Targe (3) AllHailHydraGod, Spicydinosaur, VayneAuthority

eSpi.Casey (0) VayneAuthority

jrkirby (1) eSpi.Casey

shirokami (1) calgar, Targe

Not Voting: All the other cereals

late night snack is in ~18 hours. Voting is mandatory.

Currently Targe is set to no longer be able to eat Life cereal!!

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Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 08 2013 23:07 GMT
#387
isnt the deadline in 3 hours? its 7pm est and I believe the day ends at 10 pm. Is the 18 hours just a copy typo from the last count?
Sugarfluff
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden132 Posts
May 08 2013 23:17 GMT
#388
On May 09 2013 06:35 calgar wrote:
Well kirby has been gone for basically 2 days now so he's basically lurking as hard as shiro is, except he was more useful before and had a decent post speculating on a team. I think I read town because I understand how he was bothered by the late bandwagon switch. Switching to no lynch was a weird way to go about it but I think the meta from their previous games may have affected his views in a way which looks odd to us. Having said that, I don't really understand why he has disappeared for so long and I don't really see scum disappearing for 2 straight days, though who knows with WIFOM and all. So I'll say slight town but very confused as to why he has vanished.

All right, fair enough.

As of this moment we have a lot of people failing to contribute; shirokami keeps delaying, kirby has been missing a long time, and nobody has been gone pretty much just as long. Obviously some of these lurkers are town, which makes lynching a lurker not that pretty of a prospect, unless other reasons are brought up for voting them.

Hope any or all of you guys do post before the day ends.
If something is funny, it is worth doing.
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 08 2013 23:19 GMT
#389
Yo targe. Im not scum so vote for the 2nd scum read of yours.
No clue.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 08 2013 23:33 GMT
#390
On May 09 2013 08:07 Spicydinosaur wrote:
isnt the deadline in 3 hours? its 7pm est and I believe the day ends at 10 pm. Is the 18 hours just a copy typo from the last count?


Correct. Cycle ends in 2.5 hours
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 08 2013 23:34 GMT
#391
On May 09 2013 07:04 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
@calgar
It might be just me but I don't consider talking about lurker lynch policy useful at all. If I was mafia I'd be glad to have something like this to talk about because there's no way I'd give myself away, blending in is just too easy. So I'm not exactly sure why you think that you needed to force discussion on such a topic, it looks like you honestly think that it helps town so either you're townie who just doesn't think like me or you're scum.

Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 06:35 calgar wrote:
Let me get this straight - you're suggesting I stifled discussion by suggesting a topic of conversation? How is that possible because it seems to be a direct contradiction. I see it as giving people something to talk about and voice their opinion on. At the very least it shows that someone either ignores the topic if they don't reply to it.

If someone ignores the topic or not what does that tell you about them? I just don't see any way how you could interpret any reaction or input on the matter with regard to alignment, so in my view it's a surrogate for any real discussion. Even the lack of a clear theme for discussion would've been better than this one, because it would've kept scum (and I'm not implying you're not scum, on a contrary) guessing about what to talk about, because not talking about anything would make them look bad.
If you did want to start something a RVS for example would've been way better.
I honestly think it can help. The way it helps though is if everyone agrees and then backs it up which didn't happen here. So in this case I'll agree with you that it was useless, but I think it has potential if used correctly. We've got a lot of lurkers running around and because it's clear they aren't going to be lynched there's no reason to ever stop. That's what its supposed to do, and how it can help town, by stopping play like kirby disappearing for 2 days and shiro apparently trolling like this.
eSpi.Casey
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway54 Posts
May 08 2013 23:45 GMT
#392
Sorry i havent been able to check in the thread again before now, i will be here for atleast 1 more hour checking in on the thread now and then, il try to be here up until night but i cant promise i manage that yet. So where do we stand now ? Targe is set to be lynched at the moment, can everyone who have voted speak out if this is their final vote or is anyone of you open to change ? Let`s make this clear now so we dont have a situation like D1. My vote is on Jrkirby, i am open to change for Shiromaki, since he seems just as scum as Jrkirby now.

@Shiromaki : Why havent you replied to my post to you ? And where is your ``catching up when you got of from the bar`` Give me an good answear before the Lynch to make me change my mind about you.

Il now do the filter reading of Targe&Vayne wich i wanted to do earlier today but i diddent get time, so il try have an better opinion about them aswell before Night.
Sugarfluff
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden132 Posts
May 09 2013 00:55 GMT
#393
I'll put my vote on shirokami, I am more confident in his scummy-ness than Targes and at this rate kirby is bound to be modkilled when he doesn't vote.
If something is funny, it is worth doing.
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 09 2013 01:05 GMT
#394
hey guys, im pretty drunk and my notepad is like 4 pages behind, so my analysis will be not based on my notepad but only in stuff I have will read in few minutes, I hope I can make a post that will make me not to get lynched, but now I will read some filters and FYI im vanilla town, so if you mislynch me now, its not the worst thing in the world but it will be bad ofc because then 3 town players will be dead.

so.. I hope I make it in time. im pretty bad shape right now. fuck finnish alcohol-culture.
No clue.
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 09 2013 01:17 GMT
#395
@casey

Sorry. the 1st day analysis was going to be long but they posted something good and it did not matter anymore. it was about jarjar and jampidampi but they were both arguing like townies so I did not want to make a case about them because why would I LYNCH a townie? thats the reason for not giving you a WALL-OF-TEXT -analysis D1.

so. I voted for jrkirby because I dont like his filter and few points made him stand up from everyone else:
he read both jampidampi and jarjar as town, but he claimed he was doing rookie mistakes @last game he played.

BUT actually, im unvoting him and voting for vayne because im standing behind my vote against scumread #1 and im betting all my fucking money on him flipping scum!

@everyone

please ask me anything b4 the phase change
No clue.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 09 2013 01:20 GMT
#396
why are you voting for random meaningless things when the lynch is between you and Targe? you aren't playing to win, kinda just fucking around.
I come in for the scraps
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 09 2013 01:25 GMT
#397
On May 09 2013 10:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
why are you voting for random meaningless things when the lynch is between you and Targe? you aren't playing to win, kinda just fucking around.
Agreed. Why is this half-assed analysis 30 minutes before the lynch, when you've done nothing in the last 48 hours, supposed to change our minds in any way?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 09 2013 01:26 GMT
#398
also, 1/5th of the players are about to get modkilled =/ this game looks over anyway
I come in for the scraps
eSpi.Casey
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway54 Posts
May 09 2013 01:27 GMT
#399
I dont have time to put any good read`s on Vayne&Targe now, iv read trough their filter`s one time, but i need more time to make up my mind, for now Jrkirby and Shiro are my scumread`s. And again you promised a long post today Shiro, and yet again excuse for them not coming, its always something, your not home, using your phone, and now your netboard... And i must agree with Sugarfluff about Jrkirby will be modkilled, also agreeing with Vayne here about your meaningless vote. Im very tempted to change my vote to you, and i might do, i will update the thread regulary now and see what other people think&do
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 09 2013 01:30 GMT
#400
vayne its over and you win.
No clue.
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