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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
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AllHailHydraGod
80 Posts
On May 09 2013 05:31 eSpi.Casey wrote: Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done. lol what? On May 07 2013 01:01 eSpi.Casey wrote: Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done. deja-vu | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On May 08 2013 19:12 AllHailHydraGod wrote: As far as I know, a lurker lynch policy is a common place to begin D1 discussion. I don't really see how you could read that one way or another as a result. It quickly transitions from the 'hi i'm xx, not much to talk about..." to something of substance, which can only be a good thing.Just wanted to post my thoughts on Calgar after reading his filter. but then I saw this. Calgar, seems unaffected by me having a townread on some people and him not being among them. I also don't like how he chose to steer discussion towards a lurker lynch policy so early on (first post of the game). I feel like as a townie you'd want to see how people introduce themselves and what they choose to start talking about because that gives more info than if they agree on policy lynching lurkers or not. I feel like he shut a very important opportunity for reading players by doing that so early and practically inviting scum to post about a rather easy topic, or better yet ask others to post about it to seem implicated, like nobodywonders did Spicy for example. Let me get this straight - you're suggesting I stifled discussion by suggesting a topic of conversation? How is that possible because it seems to be a direct contradiction. I see it as giving people something to talk about and voice their opinion on. At the very least it shows that someone either ignores the topic if they don't reply to it. If they do, you get their opinions and more posting as a result. I don't see how I'm "practically inviting" active lurking, either, and even if it were to occur then they could be called out for doing so. As in something of substance to be analyzed. I think you're demonstrating poor logic here. So upon reading his filter I think a Calgar, nobodywonders, Targe scumteam is possible, meaning that he might be satisfied with my initial attempt at a read of a pool of townie looking players because his two scumbuddies are in that pool. And I've said that it's a superficial read so I figure maybe that's why he doesn't ask me anything about it. You've just pulled a 'sugarfluff' here and concocted a theory about my true motivations without basing it on anything. You're putting words in my mouth here. I think your case is a weak read with questionable logic because of the aforementioned reasons so I don't really have anything to further ask about.@sugarfluff On May 08 2013 19:56 Sugarfluff wrote: Well kirby has been gone for basically 2 days now so he's basically lurking as hard as shiro is, except he was more useful before and had a decent post speculating on a team. I think I read town because I understand how he was bothered by the late bandwagon switch. Switching to no lynch was a weird way to go about it but I think the meta from their previous games may have affected his views in a way which looks odd to us. Having said that, I don't really understand why he has disappeared for so long and I don't really see scum disappearing for 2 straight days, though who knows with WIFOM and all. So I'll say slight town but very confused as to why he has vanished.Casey hasn't been that bad, although I don't have townread on him either. Shiros filter is indeed a very sad thing, and his continued delays are getting more and more suspicious. But people were already pointing out his lurking and voicing suspicions about it. I wanted to hear kirby speak up, and I wanted to see how you'd react. Quite frankly I thought you reacted poorly, but reading through my posts I realized that I never outright asked you, what do you think of kirby? You still have not given an opinion on him. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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AllHailHydraGod
80 Posts
It might be just me but I don't consider talking about lurker lynch policy useful at all. If I was mafia I'd be glad to have something like this to talk about because there's no way I'd give myself away, blending in is just too easy. So I'm not exactly sure why you think that you needed to force discussion on such a topic, it looks like you honestly think that it helps town so either you're townie who just doesn't think like me or you're scum. On May 09 2013 06:35 calgar wrote: Let me get this straight - you're suggesting I stifled discussion by suggesting a topic of conversation? How is that possible because it seems to be a direct contradiction. I see it as giving people something to talk about and voice their opinion on. At the very least it shows that someone either ignores the topic if they don't reply to it. If someone ignores the topic or not what does that tell you about them? I just don't see any way how you could interpret any reaction or input on the matter with regard to alignment, so in my view it's a surrogate for any real discussion. Even the lack of a clear theme for discussion would've been better than this one, because it would've kept scum (and I'm not implying you're not scum, on a contrary) guessing about what to talk about, because not talking about anything would make them look bad. If you did want to start something a RVS for example would've been way better. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
VOTE COUNT: Targe (3) AllHailHydraGod, Spicydinosaur, VayneAuthority eSpi.Casey (0) jrkirby (1) eSpi.Casey shirokami (1) calgar, Targe Not Voting: All the other cereals late night snack is in ~18 hours. Voting is mandatory. Currently Targe is set to no longer be able to eat Life cereal!! If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. Also, please remember to format your votes correctly. | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
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Sugarfluff
Sweden132 Posts
On May 09 2013 06:35 calgar wrote: Well kirby has been gone for basically 2 days now so he's basically lurking as hard as shiro is, except he was more useful before and had a decent post speculating on a team. I think I read town because I understand how he was bothered by the late bandwagon switch. Switching to no lynch was a weird way to go about it but I think the meta from their previous games may have affected his views in a way which looks odd to us. Having said that, I don't really understand why he has disappeared for so long and I don't really see scum disappearing for 2 straight days, though who knows with WIFOM and all. So I'll say slight town but very confused as to why he has vanished. All right, fair enough. As of this moment we have a lot of people failing to contribute; shirokami keeps delaying, kirby has been missing a long time, and nobody has been gone pretty much just as long. Obviously some of these lurkers are town, which makes lynching a lurker not that pretty of a prospect, unless other reasons are brought up for voting them. Hope any or all of you guys do post before the day ends. | ||
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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 09 2013 08:07 Spicydinosaur wrote: isnt the deadline in 3 hours? its 7pm est and I believe the day ends at 10 pm. Is the 18 hours just a copy typo from the last count? Correct. Cycle ends in 2.5 hours | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On May 09 2013 07:04 AllHailHydraGod wrote: I honestly think it can help. The way it helps though is if everyone agrees and then backs it up which didn't happen here. So in this case I'll agree with you that it was useless, but I think it has potential if used correctly. We've got a lot of lurkers running around and because it's clear they aren't going to be lynched there's no reason to ever stop. That's what its supposed to do, and how it can help town, by stopping play like kirby disappearing for 2 days and shiro apparently trolling like this. @calgar It might be just me but I don't consider talking about lurker lynch policy useful at all. If I was mafia I'd be glad to have something like this to talk about because there's no way I'd give myself away, blending in is just too easy. So I'm not exactly sure why you think that you needed to force discussion on such a topic, it looks like you honestly think that it helps town so either you're townie who just doesn't think like me or you're scum. If someone ignores the topic or not what does that tell you about them? I just don't see any way how you could interpret any reaction or input on the matter with regard to alignment, so in my view it's a surrogate for any real discussion. Even the lack of a clear theme for discussion would've been better than this one, because it would've kept scum (and I'm not implying you're not scum, on a contrary) guessing about what to talk about, because not talking about anything would make them look bad. If you did want to start something a RVS for example would've been way better. | ||
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eSpi.Casey
Norway54 Posts
@Shiromaki : Why havent you replied to my post to you ? And where is your ``catching up when you got of from the bar`` Give me an good answear before the Lynch to make me change my mind about you. Il now do the filter reading of Targe&Vayne wich i wanted to do earlier today but i diddent get time, so il try have an better opinion about them aswell before Night. | ||
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Sugarfluff
Sweden132 Posts
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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
so.. I hope I make it in time. im pretty bad shape right now. fuck finnish alcohol-culture. | ||
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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
Sorry. the 1st day analysis was going to be long but they posted something good and it did not matter anymore. it was about jarjar and jampidampi but they were both arguing like townies so I did not want to make a case about them because why would I LYNCH a townie? thats the reason for not giving you a WALL-OF-TEXT -analysis D1. so. I voted for jrkirby because I dont like his filter and few points made him stand up from everyone else: he read both jampidampi and jarjar as town, but he claimed he was doing rookie mistakes @last game he played. BUT actually, im unvoting him and voting for vayne because im standing behind my vote against scumread #1 and im betting all my fucking money on him flipping scum! @everyone please ask me anything b4 the phase change | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On May 09 2013 10:20 VayneAuthority wrote: Agreed. Why is this half-assed analysis 30 minutes before the lynch, when you've done nothing in the last 48 hours, supposed to change our minds in any way? why are you voting for random meaningless things when the lynch is between you and Targe? you aren't playing to win, kinda just fucking around. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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eSpi.Casey
Norway54 Posts
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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
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