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Also I want MA to discuss things with me. I find it strange they havn't interacted with me at all really.
-DP
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On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night.
Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments.
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Oats,
Im saying this one last time.
Your qualm is due to differing paradigms in how to play.
I disagree with you; you disagree with me.
Whatever, im not commenting on this anymore. If you want to continue to call me scum; man up and build a real case.
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On April 14 2013 21:42 John Matrix wrote:The post he is referencing Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 00:09 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:08 MockArmor wrote:On April 14 2013 00:04 raynmaster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2013 00:02 MockArmor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 23:54 raynmaster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 13 2013 23:47 MockArmor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 23:42 raynmaster wrote:On April 13 2013 23:35 MockArmor wrote:On April 13 2013 23:19 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Mocsta you didn't answer my question. Why did you attempt to make a big deal out of a person posting something that in essence looked like a confirmation post and a post implying that he was going to bed? The complaint in general feels false given that the game had just started and it doesn't seem like you could have genuinely felt frustrated by the state of things at the time of the post. The question should not be addressed to Mocsta. Regardless; I have been content with the posting of my partner.. I also believe the post you have chosen to bring attention is, contains a valid opinion of thread sentiment. Rather, I think it is you, who is choosing to elucidate matters of the minutiae to the fore. Why would you not want a player you are talking to in the first place to answer? Are you gonna try to get out of bad spot by letting your partner to answer a question directed to someone else? /rayn That answer was clearly written by Mocsta. As is this response. What is your point? Are you suggesting that I am able to elucidate the inate thoughts of GoodKarma at the time of writing? What i do know is that the post in question, shared the same sentiments I felt at the time. The thread was too spammy; too crazy; and too emotional. Hey do you have any reads? Or expand on your hapa read please. Yes, we have reads. To expand on Hapa: We don't perceive him as scum; nor an entity to invest further time into this cycle. + Show Spoiler +
In my opinion, town Hapa is quick to jump to conclusions, and just as quick to re-evaluate his reads and make his current stance visible. I think that occured today.
So why is your vote still on him? Neither of you appear to have any other scumreads, care to share one? I didnt know a vote was on Hapa lol. ##UnvoteWill give scumreads in due course young grass-hopper. This is still round 1, and everyone is jabbing to determine distances. When we want to launch the combination followed by uppercut; trust me. You will be the first to know. What a weird analogy. Thanks for being really unhelpful. There is no reason not to share reads right now. Is indicative of everything I was talking about in my case. If he wants to know what i mean he can read it again. -DP
I really dont understand.
My problems are,
You want me to state, scum or town at the end of a analysis post?
What is the difference between trashing and saying that this dude is scum because bla bla bla?
What do you not know about my current mindset?
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On April 14 2013 21:46 John Matrix wrote:
Also I want MA to discuss things with me. I find it strange they havn't interacted with me at all really.
-DP What did you have in mind.
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On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments.
On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats
19 hours later.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
Everyone is scummy.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
except marv/ve
Cool story bro.
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On April 14 2013 21:58 John Matrix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments. Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats 19 hours later.Cool story bro.
You kinda need more words to make your point.
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JM: About me wanting to consult my FT read with Oats. Yesterday when i got online i did not know Oats was here aswell. I wanted to talk about something i found scummy (the nuke thing). I also asked what Oats thought about marv/VE in our QT. A couple of minutes later Oats posted about something else, and said he did find VE's behaviour different from his last scum games. That's why the "i want to consult Oats on VE" thing. I am now going to read the past scumgames from VE and form an opinion on myself.
MA: Does that answer your question aswell? If not, could you repost the actual question so i can answer it? Maybe i'm blind but i can't find anything other that's directed to me in your filter.
/rayn
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EBWOP: "form an opinion on myself." :D
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On April 14 2013 21:59 raynmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 21:58 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments. On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats 19 hours later.On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
Everyone is scummy.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
except marv/ve Cool story bro. You kinda need more words to make your point.
You say you there is no reason to withhold reads. You then state ambigously taht you have some town reads and offer nothing further, withholding them.
19 hours later you say the whole town is scummy aside from marv as n afterthought, even though you had previously withheld multiple town reads.
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On April 14 2013 22:21 John Matrix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 21:59 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:58 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments. On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats 19 hours later.On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
Everyone is scummy.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
except marv/ve Cool story bro. You kinda need more words to make your point. You say you there is no reason to withhold reads. You then state ambigously taht you have some town reads and offer nothing further, withholding them. 19 hours later you say the whole town is scummy aside from marv as n afterthought, even though you had previously withheld multiple town reads.
I meant scumreads.
Do you think that town should explain townreads?
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/oats
Everything unlabeled is just oats.
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On April 14 2013 22:22 raynmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 22:21 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:59 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:58 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments. On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats 19 hours later.On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
Everyone is scummy.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
except marv/ve Cool story bro. You kinda need more words to make your point. You say you there is no reason to withhold reads. You then state ambigously taht you have some town reads and offer nothing further, withholding them. 19 hours later you say the whole town is scummy aside from marv as n afterthought, even though you had previously withheld multiple town reads. I meant scumreads. Do you think that town should explain townreads?
How do you go from 'I have some town reads' to 'EVERYONE IS SCUMMY' in 19 hours?
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On April 14 2013 22:26 John Matrix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 22:22 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 22:21 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:59 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:58 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments. On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats 19 hours later.On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
Everyone is scummy.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
except marv/ve Cool story bro. You kinda need more words to make your point. You say you there is no reason to withhold reads. You then state ambigously taht you have some town reads and offer nothing further, withholding them. 19 hours later you say the whole town is scummy aside from marv as n afterthought, even though you had previously withheld multiple town reads. I meant scumreads. Do you think that town should explain townreads? How do you go from 'I have some town reads' to 'EVERYONE IS SCUMMY' in 19 hours?
EVERYONE IS SCUMMY.
Because those townreads disappeared overnight.
And stuff happened in the thread. I cant say exactly what, but when I reread the thread this morning, man, lotta non townie dudes. Perhaps I overempahsised the scummyness, I meant that EVERYONE ISNT TOWNIE. My apologies
/oats
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On April 14 2013 22:42 raynmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 22:26 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 22:22 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 22:21 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:59 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:58 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments. On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats 19 hours later.On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
Everyone is scummy.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
except marv/ve Cool story bro. You kinda need more words to make your point. You say you there is no reason to withhold reads. You then state ambigously taht you have some town reads and offer nothing further, withholding them. 19 hours later you say the whole town is scummy aside from marv as n afterthought, even though you had previously withheld multiple town reads. I meant scumreads. Do you think that town should explain townreads? How do you go from 'I have some town reads' to 'EVERYONE IS SCUMMY' in 19 hours? EVERYONE IS SCUMMY. Because those townreads disappeared overnight. And stuff happened in the thread. I cant say exactly what, but when I reread the thread this morning, man, lotta non townie dudes. Perhaps I overempahsised the scummyness, I meant that EVERYONE ISNT TOWNIE. My apologies /oats
So you have positions that you can't explain. So scummy dude.
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On April 14 2013 22:58 John Matrix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 22:42 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 22:26 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 22:22 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 22:21 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:59 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:58 John Matrix wrote:On April 14 2013 21:53 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 21:45 MockArmor wrote:
I was never requested for my reads.
You asked.. Do i have reads. I said yes I do.
You then asked me to update the MA read on Hapa, which I happily obliged.
The questions were answered in its entirety.
Stop shitting up the thread; your counterpart asked a stupid question, and got a stupid answer.
I will give out my reads when I want to. Syllo gave a similar response earlier, and you didnt try to lambaste him for it.
P.S. Im still waiting for Raynpelikoneet to respond to my questions from last night. Why the fuck is withholding reads good for scumhunting? Answer the question. Ignore previous statments. On April 14 2013 00:24 raynmaster wrote:On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats 19 hours later.On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
Everyone is scummy.
On April 14 2013 19:22 raynmaster wrote:
except marv/ve Cool story bro. You kinda need more words to make your point. You say you there is no reason to withhold reads. You then state ambigously taht you have some town reads and offer nothing further, withholding them. 19 hours later you say the whole town is scummy aside from marv as n afterthought, even though you had previously withheld multiple town reads. I meant scumreads. Do you think that town should explain townreads? How do you go from 'I have some town reads' to 'EVERYONE IS SCUMMY' in 19 hours? EVERYONE IS SCUMMY. Because those townreads disappeared overnight. And stuff happened in the thread. I cant say exactly what, but when I reread the thread this morning, man, lotta non townie dudes. Perhaps I overempahsised the scummyness, I meant that EVERYONE ISNT TOWNIE. My apologies /oats So you have positions that you can't explain. So scummy dude.
yup.
Answer questions above please to prevent misunderstandings.
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Anyway. I am going to bed and may not be around for the flip. I trust palmar's judgement.
-DP
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On April 14 2013 00:26 MockArmor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 00:17 raynmaster wrote:MockArmor:Hope this post of mine explains it: And for the record, i did not know Oats was around now. He posted and focused on entirely different things than i did. I asked him about marv/VE in our QT because he has far more meta on people than i do. No it doesn't explain the situation at all. For brevity once more + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2013 23:45 raynmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 23:38 FiveTouch wrote:On April 13 2013 23:35 raynmaster wrote:
So if Palmar is town and VE was answering that post it makes FiveTouch's response even more suspicious in my eyes.
Here's another fact. If FT is town and JM is scum and actually has a nuke, who is to say they did not actually nuke and PM-cancel it instantly to look town to SLJ?
/rayn I'd appreciate it if you stopped talking nonsense. Go back and read what SLJ said about the nuke and the host reaction, and realise that what you're saying is pretty likely to not be true. Please also explain why it made VE's response 'even more suspicious' because I don't see anything of the sort. Looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing to me. ~marv From what i remember Palmar has a lot of meta on VE. VE could think Palmar is actually nuking him for a reason. Also the answer to their post came pretty quick and without thinking it much further. If it was marv i would think you would have thought about the possibilities from every perspective before posting a response. As it was VE, it's more likely that you guys actually are scum. Not sure though. I gotta consult Oats about what he does think of you guys./rayn On April 13 2013 23:53 MockArmor wrote:
Why do you feel the need to post in the thread to contribute; and then limp-dick finish with "I need to consult with my partner."
This aligns very much with what Syllo said earlier - and from my experience in Hydra 1, I 100% agree.
On April 13 2013 18:31 SamuelLJackson wrote:
In a hydra format players should be more confident in sharing their thoughts and lacking the need to comment on irrelevant things as they can discuss things with their partner. Meanwhile mafia still feels the pressure of posting.. Let us re-cap the situation thus far: - You have gone out of your way to "contribute" on live thread matters
- You then avoid accountability by having to refer back to your QT partner
- Your reasoning: Oats has far better meta understanding than I
Now, let me crystalize for you what I am thinking.
If you are incapable of contributing to the thread, due to weak meta history; or, needing to reference with your partner in general. Why post in the first place?
Before trying to bullshit me: keep in mind, I was scum in the last Hydra game. Henceforth why I agreed in full with the Syllo quote, which I will post for you one more time. Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 18:31 SamuelLJackson wrote:
In a hydra format players should be more confident in sharing their thoughts and lacking the need to comment on irrelevant things as they can discuss things with their partner. Meanwhile mafia still feels the pressure of posting.. P.S. Im not quoting this post, because Syllo saying it makes it valid. Im quoting it because he said it in better words than I.
So you are accusing me of contributing to the thread without discussing the topic beforehand with Oats? I did try to discuss it but Oats did not answer. Then i discussed it in thread and Oats posted pretty much at the same time. It has nothing to do with what i think is some people's meta. I genuinely thought if the answer was to the nuke from VE it was scummy as i explained to marv. I never called them 100% scum, i wanted to find out more. Oats posted in thread that he did not find VE's other posts scummy compared to his earlier scum games, that's why i decided to ask him why exactly that was and said it in thread.
I don't really see your point here. I am not supposed to contribute at all if my hydra partner has more meta on the people i want to discuss?
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