Ego Mini Mafia

On April 06 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
The questions are not even meant to elicit a proper response, they are questions to try and get the subject, in this case, marv angry and DISRUPT the thread like BH. When this is his only contribution, Its looking really bad.

On April 06 2013 23:57 DarthPunk wrote:
I don't like oates this game. Apart from the trolling/shit posts in his filter most of his contributions come from an extremely wishy-washy IAMP read.

Part 1: The Iamp mess.



Here is the beginning of his entirely odd read of IAMP. He is scummy trait one and two but probably town.
1.summery of filter
2. conclusion.
Scummy? no.



Here he is scum potentially
No thats a joke. Understand it? clearly not.



Then he asks IAMP his previous town then scum read to convince him he is town.
He was never my scumread. I asked Iamp to convince me that ACE WAS SCUM? CANT YOU READ FOOL?


Another dig at Iamperfection who he has most recently called scum and whom Oats is waiting to be convinced on.



And here is the gold. 'What the hell palmar' screams oates in all caps. Why are you voting for obviously town IAMP despite my previous read being scum rather than town.




and then back to attacking IAMP and his arguments despite typing in all caps that Iamp was townie to plamar.

Asking for consistency in reads is bad? never knew dude.
Part 2: The non push on sciberbia.

Oats has made one case all game. It was made after he was asked to look into this person and it consists of this.



This is the worst case in the world for day three or day two or any day that is not day one.

He is voting him based on sciberbia speculating setup at the beginning of the game

That would be fine if that was a start of game discussion vote or whatever but it is not. And this one 'cases' has been clung to for the rest of the day by oats.

although his vote has been parked there since that time he has not pushed his lynch or provided anything at all to add to this shitty start of game 'case'

In fact. He doersn;t even MENTION sciberbia again until Iamp asks him.
Yeah whats the point? He hasnt posted anymore, Im supposed to be like rayn?




He is hanging on to his shitty day one case and not providing anything to back it up.

When marv correctly asks WHY? we want to lynch sciberbia. He copy pastes the same shitty day one case.
Marv asked me to ask Tunkeg questions instead of shouting at him. This is why I said you ignored a lot of my filter. Also again, sci hasnt posted since I made that case. You also still dont say why its shitty. Just go, SETUP SPECULATION ITS FINE


He has yet to give any compelling reasons or arguments for town to lynch sciberbia and has relied on a day one case based on a pressure vote as his case to sit on all game. DESPITE being somewhat active he has done little to push his lynch unless prompted. Any other mention of sciberbia is a throwaway line and he DOES NOT PUSH AT ALL OR FURTHER HIS NUMBER ONE SCUM READ AND VOTE OF THE ENTIRE GAME.
Um no dude?
Oats is scum. Discuss.

On March 15 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote:
Marv is like a huge fat cancer on your dick, you really love your dick and wish the best to him, and you are happy that it looks so big now, and the cancer grows and grows but you don't realize that one night you will die to it.
It will kill you.

You thought that it was fine that your dick kept growing, and the cancer didn't even look ugly so you leave it where it is.
And there are doctors who tell you : "You have to cut that cancer off" and the cancer tells you : "If you kill me you will lose your dick let's kill those people who want you to lose your dick, let's kill the best doctor around cause he will push people to cut your dick"

And all the while you don't realize that you and your dick will survive if you remove the cancer, but the cancer is too strong and looks like it's helping your dick, so you keep the cancer around even though it doesn't stop growing when you tell it to. All of this ending in the best dick surgeon of the country dying to an angry mob who wants to keep their dick.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time.

Scib, is there no limit in this game as to how long a cycle lasts? If so I could see extending the day being a benefit to town but it really depends on the activity level in general.
And Palmar one entry-post example does not a meta-case make.
I'll go with marv on this one: I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway.

##Vote: Ace

On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far?
I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits.

On April 05 2013 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn's filter is now 3 pages long and it is 3 hours into the game. This is inexcusable in my opinion, as is his constant inane shitposting. From this point forward unless he changes his methodology I will hereby be ignoring any and all 'contributions' he has made. I'm not sure what other people's opinions are regarding him but I really don't feel like entertaining this kind of baseless annoying bullshit, so discuss with him and give him a forum if you must but I will take no part in it.

DP, welcome to the thread. You've mentioned you have no reads thus far; I can appreciate that. Anything to add at all regarding Ace?

On April 06 2013 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Thanks Oats.
And while I have mentioned I don't want to entertain rayn in any way, my desire to assist the town by forming coherent reads on me trumps my dislike for him. Plus it's technically answering a question from marv anyway.

The first half of Rayn's ridiculous filter where he talks about how scummy I am is literally him saying "LOOK AT HOW SCUMMY HE IS DID YOU JUST READ HIS POST HERP DERP" without even offering any explanation of his own. I don't know in what world people seem to think spamming of that sort is actually useful or town-aligned in any way, but whatever.
Like, he switches from scib to me to iamp and back to me to Axle AND THEN BACK TO ME in the span of 3 hours and offers no proper explanation for ANY of those switches. Clearly he doesn't expect us to take him seriously, but that in itself isn't exactly town-aligned---as town you want your votes and reasoning to be heard and recognized as scumhunting, not seen as useless spam.

The second half of his filter is him picking a line or two from my posts and saying "THIS IS SCUMMY, HEY EGO MM PLAYER #XX, WHAT DO YOU THINK?" Useless, shitposting, means nothing once again. With that rationale anyone can take any line from anyone's filter, point it out and ask someone better than them what they think and call that scumhunting.

This is the best thing Rayn has posted to date:


His reasoning where he compares himself to me at the end is laughable since as I pointed out earlier his earlier scumreads are based on literally NOTHING. This is the only 'case' of any real substance he has posted thus far so having the balls to call someone scum means absolutely nothing to me coming from him. As far as his reasoning to why I'm scummy for voting Ace? I stand by it. I have been told that Ace is one of those players who you're apparently supposed to just kill if he's still alive at some point. Ok, maybe this doesn't mean we kill him D1 but it does mean that if he is scum, as a fairly new player who has barely played with Ace I should be afraid of him. As far as Rayn suggesting that I'm saying we kill every strong player because if they're scum they are scary, I don't say that anywhere, but it does seem to be the rationale on which some later lynches on strong players are based. Maybe Rayn should look up the people he's playing with a little. As far as sheeping Marv goes, good for you, Rayn, you pointed out what I already pointed out. Want a cookie? Basing a scumread he has pushed so crazily on 3 posts 3 hours into D1 is not a strong scumread by any means and it just shows Rayn's ability to critically think essentially amounts to him reading some sort of 'Scum for Dummies' guide, pointing out some seemingly obvious tells and frantically screaming at everyone else to look at his seemingly obvious tells he pointed out.

I'm not going to go so far as OMGUS on Rayn because I as well find it really difficult to believe scum would play this awfully, but I guess we'll see if a more coherent Rayn enters the thread. I am not concerned by his 'scumread' of me in the slightest, but I am more concerned by others,' however. Marv why is it you said you wanted to kill me based on Rayn's posts?

On April 06 2013 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me.

On April 06 2013 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote:

I've never played with prplhz before so I didn't know that. So in these other games he plays, does he ever do anything useful or is this how he decides to play the game and people just leave him alone?

On April 06 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:

Are you worried or something? Iamp's wasn't a random joke vote either. If you're going to start saying something then come out and say it; what about me being the only person on your 'wagon' concerns you, and what about Oats' posting concerns you specifically?

And Marv as to me drawing any conclusions, I don't have any right now but I find it suspect that two people both manage to look wrongly into my posting in the exact same way. It's not even like my filter was particularly hard to read or anything; I had 3 POSTS at the time. I didn't change my vote or mention lynching at all in regards to Rayn, he just took it and went:
"HE WANTS TO KILL ME HE MUST BE SCUM!!!!"


One more thing regarding prplhz that I wanted to mention in case anyone finds it interesting: of all of his one liners manage to be soft defenses (except for maybe the last posts regarding Axle).

Soft defense of Axle.

Soft defense of Ace.

Soft defense of me.

Soft defenses rub me the wrong way.

I'm assuming by the vote and what can now barely be constituted as pressure that Axle is prplhz's primary scumread but I'd really like to know why.

On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:

I didn't miss your last post. If that's Rayn's summary of my post it's terrible because I specifically state that I don't want to pay him any mind, I just wanted to hear Axle's opinion of him, which I (sort of) got. How that = lynch I have no idea but you seem to think is somewhat justified. Whatever.

As for Ace, fine, you caught me I suppose. Not the most serious vote around but I must say considering all the reverence people seem to show him it does scare me that we haven't seen anything useful from him yet and people are willing to let him go under the pretense of 'joke pressure.' I guess though it may not make sense to consider policy lynching him as I've heard suggested before if I haven't seen him at work myself. A half-serious vote you can call it I guess, but since iamp/marv left I can't hope to generate any more discussion or anything from Ace himself, it seems.

##Unvote: Ace

I could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me?

On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
I could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me?

On April 07 2013 03:24 WaveofShadow wrote:

When I die, look here.

On April 06 2013 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still have a lot of trouble with the idea that there are people we can just 'let do their thing' and if anyone actually suspects them before that point it's scummy. I can't see myself ever getting used to that idea.

On April 07 2013 03:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Personally all the business with Oats/DP/iamp/whoever just seems to me like townies going at townies. DP seems very town to me sepcifically.
In this game I think scum are much more likely to be in the lurky category. Prplhz and Ace/Axle?

On April 07 2013 15:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
sleeping is good
##Unvote

Hey guys, about Sciberia and DP.

They clearly DONT CARE what I have to say in response to them. I responded to DP's case.

IGNORED. I posted more stuff about Sciberia. IGNORED.

Again about Sciberia lets hammer this scum.


Wtf what is this post that PUSHES NOTHING.

Its REACTIVE not proactive. Scum are reactive. Town are proactive.
He talks about WoS in LENGTH and defends him for no bloody reason when it was clear that he was not very close to being lynched.
##Vote Sci

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Wagon on marv is stupid.

Why is he scum? ALL THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM?
Im assuming Palmar's is a pressure vote but the rest, Im not so sure.

On April 06 2013 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Time to hammer Scib
INTO THE GROUND.
or rope in this case.



This 'analysis' is mostly summary and I dont see ANYTHING of the sciberia that was nk'ed early in THE GAME.

Especially this, it feels like the 'criteria' that iGrok had in MTG2 where you fit posts into slots. (iGrok was scum btw)
He also didnt bother to check his meta read against any other games that I played.

He has had a low impact in the thread so far and again, doesnt feel like the town sciberia im used to seeing.