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Ace
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so that makes him 100% correct? lol come on even you should be smart enough to know that is shoddy reasoning. When I die and flip town should you be instalynched too if I call you Scum? @Palmar: If you actually read posts and stop pretending to you'd know why | ||
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On April 09 2013 09:54 prplhz wrote: @ace i don't remember you answering my questions satisfactory, not even remotely. i remember you trying to brush me aside and talking nonsense. like this right now, how on earth could you believe that i had a town read on you or that i considered any of your answers sufficient? did you even skim the thread? why is town palmar pretending? you're joking right? We just went through an entire day with you throwing questions at me and I answered all of them. And now they aren't satisfactory? Stop being ridiculous. REREAD the thread and show me where I didn't answer your questions. Prove it. Palmar has literally been wagon hopping and pushing anything off a whim from the moment he posted. I mean how silly is this - the night post immediately started and Palmar quick votes me followed by rayn. Clearly, you are being obtuse right now. | ||
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On April 09 2013 10:04 sciberbia wrote: @Ace I think the case on you is mostly process of elimination. If you are town, then all 7 people on the Axle wagon are very likely town, correct? So let's look at the people not on the Axle wagon. marv, Axle, tunkeg, and Oats, and you marv flipped town. Axle flipped scum. Oats seems very likely town IMO. So for you to be town, tunkeg would pretty much have to be scum. And who else? Who is scum if not you? I dunno. Everything is really pointing hard towards at least 1 of Ace + tunkeg being scum if not both. you're wrongly assuming everyone on the Wagon is town. Look at the way the lynch went down: It's Day 1 with no role information revealed. We spend 3 days arguing over who is Scum, and we push various wagons with the closest 1 being to WoS. (going to go back to this in a second). We get to the part of the day where hours remain. Remember there was no strong axle lynch yet. If you are Scum voting for axle right now still means there is time for the wagon to die. Secondly, if you are sure axle will be lynched it makes sense to jump on the wagon and get Town cred - like right now. The entire reasoning for me being Scum here falls along the lines of not voting for Axle, and that only happened because I left the forum. I even said to DP before leaving - Is this a meta case? because I don't like meta cases and wanted more proof. The lynch goes down and I show up at halftime of the basketball game and see him dead, which was an hour before deadline. So if this entire case is built on that then you can blame me for not being here. Also here is the snag in the case: If we assume everyone on the wagon is Town, then WoS has to be Town. If Wos is town and I am Scum then why would I ask him for an explanation to the entire claim scenario and withhold my vote?. I could easily have hammered him or brought him to L-1. Why would I screw around and not end the day immediately and go into night with a Town mislynch? | ||
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On April 09 2013 10:08 prplhz wrote: i'm done with ace he's being completely ridiculous. not reading the thread and asking some guy he is calling thrid party to prove that he doesn't think the answers ace provided were satisfactory. i don't think ace even read the thread since he's acting all surprised at how i'm voting him now even though i was voting him yesterday too. iamp why aren't you voting ace? Prove where I didn't answer your questions. That's all you have to do. | ||
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On April 09 2013 09:54 prplhz wrote: @ace i don't remember you answering my questions satisfactory, not even remotely. i remember you trying to brush me aside and talking nonsense.like this right now, how on earth could you believe that i had a town read on you or that i considered any of your answers sufficient? did you even skim the thread? why is town palmar pretending? this is the assertion you made. Prove it. | ||
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On April 09 2013 10:19 prplhz wrote: thanks man there's your proof. now why on earth do you want me to prove this? this isn't a hard question. ![[image loading]](http://i29.tinypic.com/6zojz9.gif) | ||
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gg all | ||
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On April 11 2013 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: not my fault. blame the "confirmed townies" :D the only thing that made me vote you as the day started was because i thought marv was lyncher and when he flipped town i was like "well, maybe he is right, let's put some pressure on Ace". Then all the guys hammered you cos you said you'd be back in 2hours and went MIA for ~12. had to go to work yo. Funny enough watching basketball and missing the Axle hammer led to me being put in the pool with marv and 2 scum by sciberbia. shit happens :D | ||
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On April 11 2013 09:05 prplhz wrote: 6 votes on you all of them town and you blame me lol oh well that doesn't actually bother me this is Ego mafia. The post game won't stop me. | ||
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On April 11 2013 09:07 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh yeah, can I have an answer as to exactly what is bad about this post? it sounded like something Scum would say in a QT aka thinking out loud. "oh hey neat, I could always claim Miller if I get Cop'd" | ||
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Palmar.../facepalm | ||
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On April 11 2013 21:16 wherebugsgo wrote: there's no proper measure of skill in this game, so the chess analogy fails horribly. Handpicking teams results in a lot of bias. It's just inherent. Based on experience I roll scum way more often when I don't request an alignment. Out of the times recently I haven't requested an alignment, I've rolled nontown 4 out of 5 times. I don't think that's coincidence. and YES, people HAVE been lynched on balance reasons. Almost solely sometimes, in fact. It hasn't happened recently but there are a myriad of reasons that can explain that. to add to this and sciberbia's point: this is why people have turned to smurfing. "vets" may not end up ultimately getting lynched, but it does have an affect on reads throughout the game. Knowing someone is likely to be Scum due to host balance can cause players to be read a certain way regardless of what they say in the thread. Many games I've played in have resulted in people not reading what I say because they assume I have to be Scum, leading to nonsense. I'm not the only one that this has happened to either. RNG is the best way to balance teams. If the Scum team gets rolled so be it - learning experience. | ||
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On April 11 2013 22:40 marvellosity wrote: Surprising that, isn't it. My belief is that a team I view as pretty one-sided would destroy the other team, the result supports my beliefs... yeah. Seems pretty reasonable to me. This game IS the alternate situation, and this game shows how the alternate situation pans out. But you're ignoring what actually happened. If myself or any other Townie hammers WoS on Day 1, or we let sciberbia get lynched Day 1 - both of which were close to happening this entire argument is meaningless. Looking at the end result without acknowledging how we got there and just declaring the entire scenario imbalanced is crazy . Also saying 3 newbie scum vs a team with 3 "vets" is a bit dishonest - in this game myself, you and Palmar didn't even have as much impact as 3 or 4 other Townies. Imagine if we knew the teams were supposed to be balanced - after you flip green, then I get mislynched there is no reading of Oat's and Turnkeg's filters. Scibebria never makes his hypothesis post about the Axle wagon. No one even needs to bother re-reading the thread - lynch Palmar because of balance. That isn't Mafia play. | ||
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On April 12 2013 00:18 DarthPunk wrote: So could a whole bunch of non vets in this game. I still don't see the point. You know something I have noticed though is that 'town leaders' from newbie games really quiet down in the transition to normals, I think a lot of that has to do with all the vet nonsense and thus they are less likely to contribute or take charge as they have in newbies. I quite like the idea of different players taking charge, or at least having the chance to take charge of a scum team. Having 'good scum players' in every scum team would become stagnant and deprives newer players that opportunity to grow and shine. Even if they don't succeed the opportunity is important. Case in point. Look at oats in this game fucking take charge in the scum QT and improve DRASTICALLY from his last scum game. He rose to the occasion and even if he lost that still has a heap of value. Furthermore, Who doesn't love a good comeback? or the tale of an underdog overcoming the odds and succeeding? I think there are a lot of intangibles to consider that are more important than some easy wins every now and then. agree with the bolded 10000000%. It's the main reason I take a backseat in many of the games I play. Let someone else develop and have a chance to take control of the game asTown or Scum. Some of my early game posts were just about keeping focus and avoidong what I thought were obvious mislynches. You guys did the heavy lifting. | ||
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On April 12 2013 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote: I think the only thing I didn't get about the hammer was this: (as it was my first Instant Majority Lynch game) I'm rarely worried about how a hammer vote looks, but not hammering in this game as Scum probably was a bad play. Little time left in the day, a couple of wagons pushed, and tons of finger pointing probably means no one worth their salt is going to blame you for the hammer. | ||
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