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On April 07 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote: Wrong a lot less than you sweetie. I already talked about Oats in my filter and nothing's changed as far as I'm concerned. This is a bullshit argument. It doesn't matter who is wrong more. You need to provide a new argument when new evidence is available. You are wrong enough that you can't act like everything you say is fact without providing anything. Which is something I do not do. | ||
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On April 07 2013 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont read his posts. But Im not feeling the same activity in Noir. Convince me. DP what does a themed game have to do with your meta? You brush it away by saying. ITS WRONG OHH ITS WRONG. Point it out for me since im clearly a 'dumbass'/scum please? You haven't even provided anything in terms of a meta analysis for me to provide you with a counter example of how it is wrong. You said my 'jovial posts are different' You have played one game with me in which I replaced in and it was a themed game. I do not have to explain why this is different. It is . If you do not understand why that is you are an idiot and shouldn't use meta. You have not played with me enough to read me with meta. Even if you had played with me enough nobody correctly reads me with meta aside from keir, who has recently misread me with meta also. Now you are asking me to provide arguments against a meta analysis WHICH DOES NOT EXIST. I am done talking to you for this game unless you are somehow ever confirmed town at all (doubtful) Night all! | ||
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On April 07 2013 08:54 marvellosity wrote: WoS said "Claim what?" I've no idea what his "I already did" was referring to. These posts do not go together. "It makes no sense to unvote WoS" ... "I believe it's possible it was a genuine reaction" So... it does make sense, right? Like wtf is this as a vote? This is a post attacking ace which doesn't even mention sciberbia aside from in the context of the attack on marv. Then there is a fucking no reason vote plastered on the end of it. Not good enough. Marv knows/should know better than to just throw votes out with no reasoning. | ||
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On April 07 2013 09:37 marvellosity wrote: It wasn't a vote, it was attacking Ace for his stance on WoS. Can you not read? I quoted the wrong post. | ||
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On April 07 2013 08:45 marvellosity wrote: Unlike Oats, who is "scum at best, town is worst"? Super solid reason you have there, Ace. I'm with Palmar on this one. And your irrational opposition to the lynch while championing an equally irrational lynch makes me feel better about it too. You're telling us/town it makes no sense to unvote WoS, but you've never actually had your vote on him yourself. If you're so sure, why weren't you hammering his wagon? #paranoia #yolo #willlookatthegamewhilenotundertheinfluencetomorrow ##Vote: sciberbia Like wtf is this as a vote? This is a post attacking ace which doesn't even mention sciberbia aside from in the context of the attack on marv. Then there is a fucking no reason vote plastered on the end of it. Not good enough. Marv knows/should know better than to just throw votes out with no reasoning.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On April 07 2013 09:42 marvellosity wrote: Saying there is "no way" sciberbia should be up for the lynch and "scum could be hiding in this silliness" does not equate to him being a decent lynch, which you just implied. "silliness" != 3rd best lynch. Marv what exactly have you said to make sciberbia scum aside from associations with someone you just unvoted? On April 06 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote: It's a combination of sciberbia not mentioning WoS for a very long time, and then seemingly giving WoS an out as you mention. On April 06 2013 19:48 marvellosity wrote: I actually have some connection feelings between WoS and sciberbia too, but I'll wait until if/when WoS flips red to talk about that On April 06 2013 20:02 marvellosity wrote: I might as well say it given I alluded to it; I think a WoS red-flip heavily implicates sciberbia as red. Which is an underneath reason why I want to lynch WoS today. Seems like you are trying to make an association case before the flip and the association is now with someone you are unwilling to lynch. So when you say to look in your filter for the reason behind your sciberbia vote with ZERO justification and all I find is the above quotes. I don't know What the fuck you are talking about. | ||
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On April 07 2013 09:53 marvellosity wrote: Here: It's essentially just agreeing with Palmar, because I... agreed with Palmar. No need to rehash everything. So. Despite the fact that this was buried in a vote for WoS and is essentially using more words to repeat what palmar said in two sentences you didn't think it was a good idea to provide anything with your vote or EVEN MENTION SCIBERBIA AT ALL?!? Forgive me if I am mistaken but the major reason for wanting to lynch sciberbia is pushing oats. But when I push oats far harder than sciberbia did you don't call me out for pushing oats? Rehashing 2 sentences in one post voting for someone else is not a good enough reason to lynch someone. And it is CERTAINLY not good enough that you are not required to even mention that person when you vote for them. | ||
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On April 07 2013 10:19 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote marvellosity This is not good enough either. | ||
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On April 07 2013 15:10 sciberbia wrote: Well I agree with what you said about his jump on my wagon being concerning. I know that marv thinks very highly of my town play, and therefore I'm concerned that he was willing to let me die on what in my opinion was some pretty flimsy evidence. Here are some quotes of his from a scum QT from a long time ago + Show Spoiler + that's why I'm coaching in scumQT hehe. sciberbia just replaced Monk. you need to nightkill him. -------------------------------------------------------------- sciberbia is arguably the strongest newbie to come through TL Mafia in recent times. And within this game he said + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 09:26 marvellosity wrote: I hold you to higher expectations than I do either of those players. referring to DP and Ace, who are certainly no slouches. Knowing that he thinks a lot of my town play, I see a ton of mafia motivation to support Palmar's sciberbia wagon and try to get me out of the game, and on Palmar's wagon no less (yes I think Palmar is town). But I don't see a lot of town motivation for his complacency in just letting me die. Posts like these don't sit right with me. + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 20:49 marvellosity wrote: Alright Palmar. We can do it your way. For now. ##Vote: sciberbia On April 07 2013 02:04 marvellosity wrote: They're both looking pretty tough to me right now >.< I kinda just want someone to die and flip really. On April 07 2013 08:45 marvellosity wrote: Unlike Oats, who is "scum at best, town is worst"? Super solid reason you have there, Ace. I'm with Palmar on this one. And your irrational opposition to the lynch while championing an equally irrational lynch makes me feel better about it too. You're telling us/town it makes no sense to unvote WoS, but you've never actually had your vote on him yourself. If you're so sure, why weren't you hammering his wagon? #paranoia #yolo #willlookatthegamewhilenotundertheinfluencetomorrow ##Vote: sciberbia If we were about to lynch DP/Palmar/marv/anyone that I think would be quite an asset as town, I'd want to feel damn good about them being scum before letting them die. Especially because there is no rush to lynch today. But I don't think marv had any especially good reasons to think I am scum. marv has seen me play a lot, and I don't think my play this game has been that different from other games where I've been town. Marv should know that I like posting fluffy setup stuff as town, and overall I think he should be able to read me as town, or at the very least not have a scumread. But I suppose it's possible we both just overestimate each other and that he is impatient and doesn't think like me. Even before the wagon on me, I was leaning scum on marv based on some things earlier in the game. I think there's a decent chance he's scum. The towniest thing in his filter to me is his WoS/scib conspiracy theory. Like I said before I think theories like that show paranoia and are generally indicative of town. I dunno. It's getting late. Sorry for rambling a bit. Am I talking sense DP? Yeah. This is a really solid post. I really don't get the wagon on you and posts like this come off as insanely townie to me. | ||
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On April 07 2013 16:41 Oatsmaster wrote: k cool . Thats an easy way to back down from anything ever. Any reads? I assume you changed your mind about me but you dont want to 180 in thread. You and marv. When reading the thread did it actually look like I have no reads. jesus christ you are thick. | ||
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On April 07 2013 16:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Lets talk about marv. 1 town tell I have on him is that he defends me to the hilt. Then again I told him that last game so maybe he took it into account. HOWEVER, I think that he looks really involved with the game and he cares about who he wants to lynch WoS in particular. Thoughts everybody? Scum marv can fake being involved like a townie. The thing is his effort as scum whilst good isn't stellar. See GSLIII. I don't think he cares about who to lynch as his additions to the sciberbai vote = nothing. He hasn't been open and forthcoming with his thought processes which you would do if you cared about who you wanted town to lynch. His vote on sciberbia has even less reasoning behind it than yours. I.E. Nothing aside from sheep palmar. Do you really think town marv is a useless sheep who doesn't explain his votes? Because that is what you are saying if you believe marv to be town. Also defending a 'bad' townie to the hilt is something marv does in EVERY game he rolls scum. see Liquid City, GSL III and many more scum games of marv. It is actually a recognized part of his scum meta. | ||
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On April 07 2013 17:12 Oatsmaster wrote: I said ME specifically not bad townie.(im a good townie  )In themed. He was scum, and let BH lynch me. Every other game, he has rolled town and defended me. I think that Marv respects and therefore sheeps palmar. Do you sheep dudes? Why not marv? Well if Marv was scum and WoS is town(current thinking cause I agree with Palmar's facts that it was a townie response to dude under pressure). Why did he unvote WoS? Why not just hammer the dude? To me you are a bad townie. Perhaps to marv. I don't think the meta evidence of him defending you is enough. ESPECIALLY if it has been discussed previously. Sheeping is fine. Rewording a two sentence post buried in a vote for another person and not saying anything original and then refusing to discuss the reason for a vote where he doesn;t even MENTION the person he is voting for is not. Also most of the case against sciberbia was an association with WoS who he is now not voting for. About the WoS unvote; It was really obvious to all the good players that WoS was looking more and more townie. Marv would have got demolished if he had done anything BUT unvote at that point. simply because he should have known better. There are conventions after you play for a while were good players almost have to respond to certain things a certain way or they are claiming scum. | ||
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None of this proves he is town. It IS possible he is scum. But the fact is that it created enough doubt that it wasn;t obvious that he was scum anymore for those people voting for him. I, personally, never wanted to lynch him because I misread him quite severely in my previous game and am taking a cautious approach to him. | ||
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