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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
VOTE COUNT: TheRavensname (1) Rainbows (2) Smancer (0) Saraf (0) jrkirby (2) JarJarDrinks, jampidampi (4) JarJarDrinks (3) Saraf, jrkirby, jampidampi Note Voting: Noone jampidampi is set to be lynched! Deadline is in 3.5 hours. Voting is mandatory. If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. | ||
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jampidampi
Finland386 Posts
If you are lynching me for doing nothing, why aren't you lynching JarJar? If you are lynching me for bad cases, why aren't you lynching Rainbows? If you can answear these question, then fine, lynch me. But if you lynch me, you better make the most out of it postflip. Pressure the shit out of anyone who can't answear these questions. Pressure the shit out of anyone who voted for me with halfassed reasoning or blatantly sheeped. Hopefully I'm alive when I wake up. Goodnight folks. | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
JarJar: if you show up, I want to see your reads on everyone. So you better show up fast, cause there's a lot to read. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On April 07 2013 04:49 jampidampi wrote: Is there anything aside from my case/tunnel on Rainbows that makes me scummy? That was the biggest thing for me. Besides that - you hadn't given out any non-Rain related reads. Additionally, people whom I think are townie, Fish, Smancer, and Moloch, are voting you - and the votes on Jarjar are because he's lurking and not posting. I looked into jampi's past game and saw that he gave out town reads early - and then was apparently told by his coaches to not share weak townreads, so I guess his lack of reads in that regard makes a little more sense. Honestly, your last post troubles my read lol. On the one hand, Jarjar quite legitimately does feel like you're sort of hopping out there to kill him without him being around. On the flip side, you gave out mafia reads with reasoning, changed your stance that was the primary thing I disliked, and started looking at a couple of other people. I want Jarjar to post more. I'll consider switching my vote, if Fish, Smancer, or Moloch agrees that he's a viable lynch, if he doesn't show up at all, or if his appearance is stupid... - it feels a little derpy bouncing from my current scumread to a lurker based largely on my scumread's vote, though. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:16 jrkirby wrote: Obzy: I want a good explaination why you prefer jampidampi over jarjar. JarJar: if you show up, I want to see your reads on everyone. So you better show up fast, cause there's a lot to read. Concisely - Jarjar is just a lurker, and jampi seemed scummy because his case on Rainbows was bad (I had been defending rainbows, I think, even before this) - also, because jampi had not contributed any non-Rain related reads. He had bounced some questions around, but had not indicated his thoughts towards other people (iirc). Now that he's changed that, I'm less sure. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
Jarjar may _also_ be a good lynch, it's hard to tell right now. Jampi was a good lynch before he responded, and I don't know if he's just handling himself in a way to try to get pressure off of him now, or if he just had been too tunneled. I would like to hear what the other jampi voters have to say, regarding how he has reacted to the votes on him. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On April 07 2013 05:50 jampidampi wrote: If you are lynching me for doing nothing, why aren't you lynching JarJar? If you are lynching me for bad cases, why aren't you lynching Rainbows? I'm not lynching you for doing nothing, so I'll answer the second one: Rainbows' cases and aggressiveness have been directed towards people that have acted scummily - or at least, were not specifically townie IMHO. Your case was directed at Rainbows, who I had identified (imo, reasons in thread) as town. The fact that you made a bad case on my townread was the problem. If you had made a bad case on somebody scummy - I think the reaction would have been different. Rainbows, at that point in time, was not thought to be as townie as I thought he was by the thread as a whole - he would be a fairly safe target to make a case on (had he not reacted so vehemently, and I had not defended him so strongly, IMO). Your case on rain is and was the problem, and if you're dropping that, I'm less sure. You could be dropping it because it's the problem, and you could also be dropping it because you have identified it as being bad. I can't tell which, so I am hoping one of my townreads has new insights. (If that makes any sense. lol - -; ) | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
On April 07 2013 05:50 jampidampi wrote: Since it's almost midnight, I'll post this and go to bed. If you are lynching me for doing nothing, why aren't you lynching JarJar? If you are lynching me for bad cases, why aren't you lynching Rainbows? If you can answear these question, then fine, lynch me. But if you lynch me, you better make the most out of it postflip. Pressure the shit out of anyone who can't answear these questions. Pressure the shit out of anyone who voted for me with halfassed reasoning or blatantly sheeped. Hopefully I'm alive when I wake up. Goodnight folks. Last post before he leaves makes me think he is scum. Not really posting a good defense. Not trying to convince anyone of his scum read. Maybe that is just his playstyle, but I disagree with it. If you are town, and you had a spotlight on you to be lynched, isn't the best thing to do to build your case against who you think is scum? I would defend myself politely and then take the time to pile all the evidence I could against someone who I thought was town. You didn't do any of that. In fact in this last post all you did was drive more confusion by pointing the finger at two people instead of narrowing it down to just one. I still think jampidampi is scum and he/she keeps my day 1 vote. I'll be back on before the deadline in 30 min or so. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
pile all the evidence on the person I thought was scum*** | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
nobodywonder, your vote is on Kirby. Why? Who would you prefer out of the two listed above? Warent, Ravens - your votes on Rainbows are stupid and that's sort of all I have to say about them -_- Sorry lol JarJar, get posting. Your content can't even be called that, you are a lynch candidate entirely because you have posted so little. I'm going to read into his profile and see if he acts similarly in other games - although like I think I mentioned awhile ago, I have no idea how the heck to use meta so it's more just an exercise to stay interested while I wait for somebody to respond to me. We have two hours before the lynch and only a couple people are actually around! Lets please fix this? (hi Smancer, will read your posts once I toss this out.) | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
- That, being how he mentioned two people - and rainbows specifically, after unvoting him. On April 07 2013 04:49 jampidampi wrote: So upon rereading, I can see how Rainbows might be a townie. So since there are more suspicious people than him: ##Unvote On April 07 2013 05:50 jampidampi wrote: If you are lynching me for bad cases, why aren't you lynching Rainbows? | ||
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Moloch
Canada222 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:58 Smancer wrote: Last post before he leaves makes me think he is scum. Not really posting a good defense. Not trying to convince anyone of his scum read. Maybe that is just his playstyle, but I disagree with it. If you are town, and you had a spotlight on you to be lynched, isn't the best thing to do to build your case against who you think is scum? I would defend myself politely and then take the time to pile all the evidence I could against someone who I thought was town. You didn't do any of that. I agree that it is really weird that he hasn't freaked out a bit more. I think you're wrong with "If you are town... who you think is scum?" because that would be the best course of action whether you're town or scum. I'm considering changing my vote to JJD because of lack of panic (I was debating between jampi and JJD when I first voted for jampi, so this just tips the scale a bit). On April 07 2013 06:58 Smancer wrote: In fact in this last post all you did was drive more confusion by pointing the finger at two people instead of narrowing it down to just one. I think he's using those as examples of why you shouldn't vote for him, rather than why you should vote for Rainbows or JJD. As in, "it's silly to vote Rainbows because he made a bad case, so don't vote for me because I made a bad case." I'm pretty sure that's what he's trying to say there. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
On April 07 2013 07:08 Moloch wrote: I agree that it is really weird that he hasn't freaked out a bit more. I think you're wrong with "If you are town... who you think is scum?" because that would be the best course of action whether you're town or scum. I'm considering changing my vote to JJD because of lack of panic (I was debating between jampi and JJD when I first voted for jampi, so this just tips the scale a bit). I think he's using those as examples of why you shouldn't vote for him, rather than why you should vote for Rainbows or JJD. As in, "it's silly to vote Rainbows because he made a bad case, so don't vote for me because I made a bad case." I'm pretty sure that's what he's trying to say there. But that is just it. His last post says why you shouldn't vote for him, but he doesn't leave us with who we should definitively vote for. And believe me this isn't THE reason I am voting for him, rather just icing on the cake. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
On April 07 2013 07:05 Obzy wrote: Hmmm. I hadn't really noticed that. (hehe silly ebwop.) - That, being how he mentioned two people - and rainbows specifically, after unvoting him. Yea that was a bad ebwop. :-/ | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
Yeah, his final case against Rainbows was poorly written, and not convincing. But that doesn't mean he didn't have good reason to write it! And if you're not reading rainbows as town, JarJarDrinks is a way better choice than Jampi. I'm suspicious that JarJarDrinks cast a vote on e to try to take the attention off Rainbows. Whether that's true or not, jampi hasn't been defending anyone. And that's the only thing mafia needs to do day 1. Just make sure none of they're own are lynched. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
On April 07 2013 07:34 jrkirby wrote: I think jampidampi is town. At least for now. Earlier I had a hunch against him. I thought he was clever. Asking questions of rainbows, getting reads, and but not showing his opinion too much, because he wasn't ready to commit to his reads. Did he focus more on rainbows than anyone else? Yeah. But he also was talking to me, moloch, and saraf. And he had reason to keep his eye on rainbows. Rainbows was doing suspicious things and avoiding his questions. Yeah, his final case against Rainbows was poorly written, and not convincing. But that doesn't mean he didn't have good reason to write it! And if you're not reading rainbows as town, JarJarDrinks is a way better choice than Jampi. I'm suspicious that JarJarDrinks cast a vote on e to try to take the attention off Rainbows. Whether that's true or not, jampi hasn't been defending anyone. And that's the only thing mafia needs to do day 1. Just make sure none of they're own are lynched. Fine kirby, ignore his final case for a second. You have to have noticed that his two questions that he demanded answered were shit and had nothing to do with the current conversation. It is so strange that the pages later he is demanding Rainbows to answer them. They were completely irrelevant at that point don't you think? | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
On April 07 2013 07:39 Smancer wrote: Fine kirby, ignore his final case for a second. You have to have noticed that his two questions that he demanded answered were shit and had nothing to do with the current conversation. It is so strange that the pages later he is demanding Rainbows to answer them. They were completely irrelevant at that point don't you think? It's not really the relevance of the questions. He had reasonable suspicion because there existed questions that had not been answered. It's enough excuse for him to make a case against rainbows. And just making a case against someone isn't a sure sign of scum. He made a reasonable case with poor persuasion. That's not a lynchable thing. | ||
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Smancer
United States379 Posts
But then again your play has mirrored his. Early case against Rainbows. Now you are both voting for the lurker. I don't think jarjar is a good vote day 1. There are plenty of other people posting with actual content to make a read on. The bottom line is that I have made a case based on actual content from jamp. So has Obzy , so has Moloch . There is no case on JarJar other than lurker. None. Why would you rather make a read on nothing other then something?? | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
 " and leave it at that for today.The fact that there is opposition to the jampi lynch - although I hate confrontation; + Show Spoiler + so why the hell am I playing a mafia game Kirby, I don't think the case was reasonable, because I have a townread on Rainbows. | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
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