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Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 02 2013 14:41 GMT
#201
That not only point about risk, ghor mention other points earlier:

ghor like comrade CC's vote on risk.atomi. risk unlurk, risk scare, now post more, only after vote.now talking about policy kenpachi trap while saying he not do policy things.



risk.nuke Sweden. April 02 2013 09:18.:

That's why I say ney on policy lynching. It's ment to work as a threat to keep lazy/bad townies from doing rash stupid stuff that makes them look scummy and with that allow mafia to do what they want without sticking out. But that's no differen't from normal. In the end it all comes down to the townies to play intelligently and try not to do scummy stuff out of nowhere.


Next post

risk.nuke Sweden. April 02 2013 09:19:
Think RoL just set of the old kenpachi trap.


risk say no policy in first post, but risk talk about stupid policy in next post.
risk say he no lynch RoL for kenpachi rule BEFORE defend himself, but say kenpachi rule legit and accurate when defend himself.

ghor want sylencia to say if he think risk town or scum, not flipflop pinball, evidence there, comment on it.
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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 02 2013 14:55 GMT
#202
Kenpachi trap is now a policy rather than a general statement over what might've happened?
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 02 2013 15:02 GMT
#203
risk say kenpachi rule accurate and useful, that not general statement, that say "lynch someone if he do x=accurate". sylencia avoiding committment on risk. no inquiry of his own.no pushing cc. no quoting cc, not try convince ghor that cc scum, but try avoid risk issue.

ghor think sylencia scum.

##Vote: Sylencia
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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 02 2013 15:10 GMT
#204
On April 02 2013 23:41 Ghor wrote:
risk.nuke Sweden. April 02 2013 09:19:
Show nested quote +
Think RoL just set of the old kenpachi trap.


risk say no policy in first post, but risk talk about stupid policy in next post.
risk say he no lynch RoL for kenpachi rule BEFORE defend himself, but say kenpachi rule legit and accurate when defend himself.

ghor want sylencia to say if he think risk town or scum, not flipflop pinball, evidence there, comment on it.


In addition, how is his statement about accuracy there that relevant to what happened before it? Are you suggesting that he said it to set up a bus on his buddy, then you're saying that he did that to say RoL is scum, then retract it? I don't even understand what you're getting at here.

And at this point, no, he's played enough games where I don't see him making himself look suspicious 3 hours into the game. The case on him has its merits however I would rather first see more from the two I've heard least from today (Hopeless and CC) - moreso Hopeless because there's ever so slightly more from CC.

Ghor - now that I've said it what are your thoughts on risk then? Would you say he is scum or not? Would you end up backing a vote on him if the time came for it?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 02 2013 15:11 GMT
#205
ghor, do you think risk is scum?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 02 2013 15:12 GMT
#206
On April 02 2013 22:32 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:27 AxleGreaser wrote:
On April 02 2013 22:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
Howdy folks!

@Axle: I take L-1 as one vote from lynch, am I correct?

Regarding risk: I'm not confident in voting him at the moment. While I agree that the "kenpachi-incident" makes him look kinda bad, he defended himself in a way I'm not sure scum would. I'd say that this could just as well be a strange town play rather than scum and it really comes down to WIFOM to figure out which one it is.


+ Show Spoiler +
TBMK: in general use, L-1 = Lynch -1 = 1 more vote to Lynch. We are currently at L-2.


So if you are "not confident in voting him at the moment.".... what do ?
I'd actually not talk about my (potential)scum read just yet. I want a certain interaction to be happening first. Most probebly, that will occour later today.

Lazer, I don't suppose you could let us know who you're waiting for?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 02 2013 15:14 GMT
#207
On April 03 2013 00:02 Ghor wrote:
risk say kenpachi rule accurate and useful, that not general statement, that say "lynch someone if he do x=accurate". sylencia avoiding committment on risk. no inquiry of his own.no pushing cc. no quoting cc, not try convince ghor that cc scum, but try avoid risk issue.

ghor think sylencia scum.

##Vote: Sylencia


What is there to quote? He's literally written 6 posts, containing 3 one liners, two posts containing very generic statements about how town should act and a vote out of nowhere. Risk acknowledges it being a pressure vote on him, and yet he disappears for the next 18 hours but I can't hold that against him too much since people disappear all the time and it's not their fault.

However, if I come along and vote for him for similar reasons "saying hello, general statement, goodbye" I'm suddenly scum? Interesting.
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 02 2013 15:18 GMT
#208
Ghor not understand why people ask questions about risk, people not read properly ghor posts?read thread then come back with good question please.

only update is ghor not think RoL that scummy any more, but not like initial play. now better.

risk talk about fluff after he say he not like doing content of his fluff (policy).
his defense, bad, he contradict.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 02 2013 15:25 GMT
#209
On April 03 2013 00:18 Ghor wrote:
Ghor not understand why people ask questions about risk, people not read properly ghor posts?read thread then come back with good question please.

only update is ghor not think RoL that scummy any more, but not like initial play. now better.

risk talk about fluff after he say he not like doing content of his fluff (policy).
his defense, bad, he contradict.

##Vote: Ghor
Do you think risk.nuke is scum?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 02 2013 15:27 GMT
#210
On April 03 2013 00:18 Ghor wrote:
Ghor not understand why people ask questions about risk, people not read properly ghor posts?read thread then come back with good question please.

only update is ghor not think RoL that scummy any more, but not like initial play. now better.

risk talk about fluff after he say he not like doing content of his fluff (policy).
his defense, bad, he contradict.


So you seem convinced he's scum yet you don't take any action? Instead you choose to target myself in hopes that others will complete the vote for you?
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 02 2013 15:32 GMT
#211
Ghor will teach hopeless how to read

On April 02 2013 11:13 Ghor wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##unvote: VE
##Vote: Risk.nuke

It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you?

Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument?

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On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote:
VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant.

If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule?

No I don't.

Doesn't seem all that legit to me.



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On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Worst vote ever.


On the contrary, best vote ever.

I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal.

Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town.


ghor think contradiction also very strong point.but ghor want long day. risk ok, risk on chopping block but no axe soon, axe later. wait for other information, milk day, find other scum.
but that no scumslip, that was cc voting risk and risk saying he town and vote bad, you read thread pls hopeless.no offense.

For low probability that risk do stupid mistake as town, 3 vote on risk mean scum can kill risk together.
if risk town he can play harder than everyone else now and know if he does not, he dead.
but need other opinion from not posting people first.

no go quick with axe. Ploha.


ghor say risk scum early, ghor look for scum elsewhere, no like quick hammer.

hopeless useless. he not able to read.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 02 2013 15:34 GMT
#212
so...you want to polarize the lynch between your initial scumread and somone who you say "won't comment" on your initial scumread. Why not just push to get risk lynched?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#213
Jesus you guys are active while I'm asleep.

##Unvote

I don't think we should lynch Risk today. How I got +2 to my pressure vote is beyond me.

In regards to Sylencia's vote, cool -- Good to see you're paying attention. Nothing was happening so I slapped down a vote on Risk. 20 minutes passed and nothing from him so I went to bed. Now we have shit to work with.

What alarmed me the most was RoL's vote. He explains it here.

On April 02 2013 16:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
No, I explained with my vote why I had been doing it. I expanded on my reasoning in my last post. The last post showed risk.nuke continuing to do what I originally outlined. Like I said, it was like he was looking for someone to pick up the slack of the kenpachi tell.


This seems a far cry to think someone is scum. Oh, it looked like he was waiting for someone to sheep the Kenpachi tell... really? I'm not a fan "it looked like he was doing something potentially scummy" instead of "yeah, this is scummy"

I can't clearly read a thing Axle posts, at least Ghor I understand...

On April 02 2013 22:32 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:27 AxleGreaser wrote:
On April 02 2013 22:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
Howdy folks!

@Axle: I take L-1 as one vote from lynch, am I correct?

Regarding risk: I'm not confident in voting him at the moment. While I agree that the "kenpachi-incident" makes him look kinda bad, he defended himself in a way I'm not sure scum would. I'd say that this could just as well be a strange town play rather than scum and it really comes down to WIFOM to figure out which one it is.


+ Show Spoiler +
TBMK: in general use, L-1 = Lynch -1 = 1 more vote to Lynch. We are currently at L-2.


So if you are "not confident in voting him at the moment.".... what do ?
I'd actually not talk about my (potential)scum read just yet. I want a certain interaction to be happening first. Most probebly, that will occour later today.


Lazer I want you to answer this question. Why do you use the parenthetical (potential)? How is somebody your potential scumread... scum have potential scumreads, town just have scumreads or town reads. Were you just waiting for somebody to slip up so you could call them out?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#214
In any case ##unvote as I'm going to sleep now, but what Ghor is saying is becoming ridiculously stupid since he says risk is scum but doesn't want to have him killed. If you don't want your scum read to be killed what the hell do you want?

If I wake up and this stupidity continues I won't hesitate to vote Ghor.
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#215
Ghor asking sylencia questions cause he scummy, vote to show he would want his head off too.

On April 03 2013 00:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
so...you want to polarize the lynch between your initial scumread and somone who you say "won't comment" on your initial scumread. Why not just push to get risk lynched?


ghor's quoted post answers question already. Hopeless very dull.

here, for dummies.ghor pissed at dull hopeless.wastes ghor time, lets sylencia slip away, no interest in find out what sylencia want to do with risk. not able to read properly.

  • risk probably scum
  • can not be sure in game. no quick hammer. wait for contributions of risk, look for information.
  • thinking sylencia scum is not at exclusion of risk scum. sylencia wishwash about risk. he use votes on risk as defense for risk, but say risk do odd things. does not say he think risk town or scum.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 02 2013 15:47 GMT
#216
On April 03 2013 00:42 Ghor wrote:
Ghor asking sylencia questions cause he scummy, vote to show he would want his head off too.

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 00:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
so...you want to polarize the lynch between your initial scumread and somone who you say "won't comment" on your initial scumread. Why not just push to get risk lynched?


ghor's quoted post answers question already. Hopeless very dull.

here, for dummies.ghor pissed at dull hopeless.wastes ghor time, lets sylencia slip away, no interest in find out what sylencia want to do with risk. not able to read properly.

  • risk probably scum
  • can not be sure in game. no quick hammer. wait for contributions of risk, look for information.
  • thinking sylencia scum is not at exclusion of risk scum. sylencia wishwash about risk. he use votes on risk as defense for risk, but say risk do odd things. does not say he think risk town or scum.


So you think Risk and Syl have the highest chances of being scum, possibly together?

Isn't this based upon the assumption that Syl was deflecting attention away from his scumbuddy?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 02 2013 15:52 GMT
#217
Ghor will take it this way: sylencia think risk town cause he not like evidence.
Cheesecake back, sylencia goes away when scumread is back?

@ CC

Sylencia made huge post with many read. Say risk do odd thing, but it look like he think vote on risk make him bad candidate, and scum can hammer him quick.

ghor say, if sylencia fears scum hammering risk and says the votes are bad, then he must think risk town. but he not want to say so. he also not comment on evidence.

he only say risk would not catch attention as scum, which very weak argument. here:

And at this point, no, he's played enough games where I don't see him making himself look suspicious 3 hours into the game.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 02 2013 16:09 GMT
#218
@Axle

You're quite all over the place. Give me something to work with here. Who should we lynch today, based on current posts? Make a stance, because I can't seem to understand what exactly it is you're thinking.

You ask a metric fuckton of questions, but they don't seem to be furthing your reads at all.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 02 2013 16:14 GMT
#219
Hopeless...

On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##unvote: VE
##Vote: Risk.nuke

It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you?

Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument?

Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote:
VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant.

If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule?

No I don't.

Doesn't seem all that legit to me.



Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Worst vote ever.


On the contrary, best vote ever.

I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal.

Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town.


At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 02 2013 16:16 GMT
#220
Hi guys I'm reading. I have a feeling I'm not gonna like something I read, anyone wanna tell me what it is to lessen the impact reading it has?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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