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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 22 2013 20:38 GMT
#11
/in
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 28 2013 17:31 GMT
#58
/out

I'll probably rejoin when it's about to start but I don't want to risk forgetting about this while it's waiting to fill up
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#1193
Hey guys I'm catching up now. About page 30 at the moment so is there anything you'd like me to focus on and address?

Some thoughts as to what I've seen so far but they're not really worth shit until I'm caught up since most of it was probably answered.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 25 2013 22:05 GMT
#1787
Sorry guys, was working on my final yesterday.Completely my fault.

I'm drawing up a more detailed post at the moment.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 25 2013 22:34 GMT
#1804
VE:I thought between the Vivax case and your points that the case on Shiao was pretty good. What specifically made you switch to Palmar over Shiao? I can understand why Palmar's posting is like he is, but Shiao has hammered oats when he hadn't interacted or even mentioned him all game with a very weak justification (Oats wasn't doing shit so why not hammer him for info [which he never brought up again]). I'm just not following what made you so sold on Palmar over him.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 25 2013 22:52 GMT
#1819
On April 26 2013 07:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Stutters: Palmar's interaction with me. He clearly doesn't give a shit about the game, and he's hiding in his VE tunnel to excuse himself from doing anything productive. He's actively not giving a shit.

I'm not paying much heed to it this game they but I've seen him play similarly before while town (prplhz in yanmm iirc, maybe in a big game too but can't remember). Others seeing him as wrong while he isn't really pushing because he expects people to sheep him doesn't necessarily mean he's scum. How he reacts after is much more telling imo.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 26 2013 18:04 GMT
#2056
That's the exact same thing he did with hammering Oats btw.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 26 2013 19:19 GMT
#2076
One of them is done, I have a few more next week but this was the hardest one.

Of the people who seem lynchable today:

VE: I really don't see how VE is doing anything lynchable that ShiaoPi isn't doing worse. I disagree with his reads, but I'm not seeing the "lazy" VE that Palmar is mentioning. At least not to the extent that he should be lynched over some of these other people.

ShiaoPi: Pretty much the only thing I've said in my few posts. Easily my choice for a lynch currently. When I was catching up before joining I noticed similar things to VE and Vivax on that. He hammered a town player (would be understandable if he had expressed any interest before that) and has actively been avoiding major topics.

Clarity-nl: TBH he doesn't seem as bad as others are making him sound but I need to go over his stuff in context of the thread. Again I see questionable stuff but nothing that comes close to what i see as shady about Shiao.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#2078
On April 27 2013 04:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Uh, so stutters, I appreciate a ninjavote on my scumread as much as the next person, but for a guy who professes to find someone scummy for not interacting with their scumread, you're certainly looking mighty hypocritical right now.

What's up, guy?


Was typing out a response and I thought I made it pretty clear here + Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2013 07:34 Stutters695 wrote:
VE:I thought between the Vivax case and your points that the case on Shiao was pretty good. What specifically made you switch to Palmar over Shiao? I can understand why Palmar's posting is like he is, but Shiao has hammered oats when he hadn't interacted or even mentioned him all game with a very weak justification (Oats wasn't doing shit so why not hammer him for info [which he never brought up again]). I'm just not following what made you so sold on Palmar over him.

that I thought he was scummy. I can expand upon it if you'd like.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#2081
ebwop: the one of them is done post is in response to BC also.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 15:39 GMT
#3204
I'm back from French so I'll be here until for the next 7 hours. I'm caught up but working on piecing together the shit that went down before the lynch.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 17:23 GMT
#3210
Well since the thread has died down, let's try this:

ShiaoPi: You have yet to adress any points against you ever, much less give a reason a single reason why we should lynch a claimed cop over you (except that he's wrong).

So I'll ask you:

What made you drop your suspicion on Sharrant (note: not why you voted Oats, why you never pushed Sharrant in D2)?

You say Gigyas should be lynched for being non-committal, no thread presence, and just going with the flow of the thread. That's awfully similar to your 3 reads throughout the game, none of which you have voted for.

Any explanations or are you just going to say more obvious stuff like "Kill stutters" to try and deflect from yourself again?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 18:16 GMT
#3218
As I've said, I'm in the midst of finals and replacing in was really a mistake. Yet despite that, in my minute filter I've already said more than Shiao. Haven't really looked at giggles.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 18:41 GMT
#3245
On April 30 2013 03:07 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 02:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Well since the thread has died down, let's try this:

ShiaoPi: You have yet to adress any points against you ever, much less give a reason a single reason why we should lynch a claimed cop over you (except that he's wrong).

So I'll ask you:

What made you drop your suspicion on Sharrant (note: not why you voted Oats, why you never pushed Sharrant in D2)?

You say Gigyas should be lynched for being non-committal, no thread presence, and just going with the flow of the thread. That's awfully similar to your 3 reads throughout the game, none of which you have voted for.

Any explanations or are you just going to say more obvious stuff like "Kill stutters" to try and deflect from yourself again?


LOL

The points raised against me are mostly just inactivity and a fucking cop check which is just wrong.
Besides hammering someone is kind of committal dont you think so? My read on sharrant changed as d1 progressed. Unfortunately I was unable to be active, so all you see is a seemingly total turnaround.
Also I did adress points against me, so you are either dumb and unable of doing reading comprehension or just lying. Dunno why I answer to you anyway seeing that you are scum and should be dealt with fire.
bed time now


You hammered Oats when he was sitting at L-1 for fifteen minutes. Of fucking course he didn't have time to contribute more. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt considering you hammered a townie WHO YOU NEVER HAD A SCUMREAD ON but if you're just going to dodge answering I'll await your flip.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 18:43 GMT
#3246
On April 30 2013 03:32 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:25 Sharrant wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
As I've said, I'm in the midst of finals and replacing in was really a mistake. Yet despite that, in my minute filter I've already said more than Shiao. Haven't really looked at giggles.


I'm not sure how I feel about this quote. Stutters calling GiygaS "giggles" reads to me as someone who has more familiarity with the thread than Stutters would. It seems more likely a habit that would be picked up from quickly chatting with people in the scum QT to try and figure out what his best move would be.

Does anyone else get that vibe, or am I reaching on this?
.


I called him giggleS recently, and I believe that post was in response to something I said.


Correct, the post I called him giggles was a direct response to that post (plus its just fun to call people names).
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 18:45 GMT
#3247
ebwop: sorry for the language. I'm looking at Ace now since WoS brought him up. He has kinda slipped by lately.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 20:06 GMT
#3265
On April 30 2013 03:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:41 Stutters695 wrote:
On April 30 2013 03:07 ShiaoPi wrote:
On April 30 2013 02:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Well since the thread has died down, let's try this:

ShiaoPi: You have yet to adress any points against you ever, much less give a reason a single reason why we should lynch a claimed cop over you (except that he's wrong).

So I'll ask you:

What made you drop your suspicion on Sharrant (note: not why you voted Oats, why you never pushed Sharrant in D2)?

You say Gigyas should be lynched for being non-committal, no thread presence, and just going with the flow of the thread. That's awfully similar to your 3 reads throughout the game, none of which you have voted for.

Any explanations or are you just going to say more obvious stuff like "Kill stutters" to try and deflect from yourself again?


LOL

The points raised against me are mostly just inactivity and a fucking cop check which is just wrong.
Besides hammering someone is kind of committal dont you think so? My read on sharrant changed as d1 progressed. Unfortunately I was unable to be active, so all you see is a seemingly total turnaround.
Also I did adress points against me, so you are either dumb and unable of doing reading comprehension or just lying. Dunno why I answer to you anyway seeing that you are scum and should be dealt with fire.
bed time now


You hammered Oats when he was sitting at L-1 for fifteen minutes. Of fucking course he didn't have time to contribute more. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt considering you hammered a townie WHO YOU NEVER HAD A SCUMREAD ON but if you're just going to dodge answering I'll await your flip.



Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 16:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
ugh, fuck my busy schedule for not being able to post earlier.
So I am now on the chopping block for being the hammer vote on oats?
Answering to the points of vivax now:
-low activity: well ya, fuck my life for being busy. This also results in my "low involvement" as I obviously cant do much without much time....

Now onto why I hammered oats instead of following up on Sharrant:
Look at the vote counts at the time when I "magically" returned. It's pretty much obvious that no one else besides Oats or yamato would get lynched that day. Waiting on oats to start to do something useful would be like waiting for a train that will never come anyway. Come on look at that shitfest in the pages before the lynch and tell me with a serious face that oats was getting productive.....Felt like a waste of time to keep waiting for him, so I thought fuck it, hammer him and we will know more.

If that explanation aint satisfying enough for you, can't help you.


yeah you claim to have read my oh so small filter. just stop lying


At no point in that post did you say what made you think that Sharrant was now not a suspect at all. You didn't provide new reads so it clearly wasn't that you just found a better candidate.

And sitting at L-1 is significantly different than L-2 or higher. Oats might have still been lynched but had he sat at L-1 for a while I would expect much better content out of him than he was giving, given that he's town. I'm saying you hammered a townie "to know more" and never said anything about it after.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 20:31 GMT
#3270
On April 30 2013 04:44 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
ebwop: sorry for the language. I'm looking at Ace now since WoS brought him up. He has kinda slipped by lately.


what? I've been around the entire game - where could I have slipped by?

VE -> Palmar
Palmar->CC
CC->VE

Town JK dont target any of them, let town docs take care of that. roleblocking any of them will screw us. let scum worry about who to rb.


I tend to be not trusting of people pushing plans, especially when its like someone saying a wagon is bad without a way to verify.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 20:34 GMT
#3272
EBWOP submitted on accident, without a way to verify its true. Doesn't mean anything right now, but if Shiao flips red like it seems he will it's worth looking into. Slipping by as in everything you've said as of late has been based on assumptions, nothing that we can definitively use.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 29 2013 20:55 GMT
#3286
On April 30 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Something tells me based on what im reading I would be yelling as much as you Ace -_-


Palmar has a guilty on you tho - thoughts?

@stutters: what exactly are you referring to is being based on assumptions and should be done another way?

I'm in my phone now so can't pull the exact quote but I remembered a detailed post about how people on the oats &ships wagons probably had a scum among them. Then your posts about cop claims and what they mean is all dependanrt on assumptions and thus could just be conjecture to appear active without giving out as much as you would with your earlier play which felt more solid to me. Since I'm a prime vig target and could easily die before or with Shiao i felt it worth bringing up because you're clearly able to pull off such a play.
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