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On May 05 2013 02:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because town was far ahead. It'd be likely that Ace would target obvious townies because as 3rd party you don't want one party to get massively ahead. It'd serve his wincon better to aim for town. As town jk you know 100% certain that blocking Ace stops a kill that's probably aimed at town. I don't know why you wouldn't instantly go for that. primarily because off one nights worth of deaths its still really shaky to believe it was sk/sp shot instead of mafia vig or town vig at that point. It comes down to lack of info. id want ace unblocked at least once to confirm the read as poisoner. and ace would obviously shoot at town at night while aiming for mafia during day to avoid the noose. | ||
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On May 05 2013 02:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I have something I want to point out about that but I want to see if Yamato points it out first. fair enough | ||
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On May 05 2013 02:48 yamato77 wrote: It literally gives us 2 confirmed town, the JK, and the guy he didn't protect night 1. You're delusional if you think that's scummy. and we lose the jk who is as far as we know the only person able to deflect mafia kp. so we trade someone who can extend the game for a few days if it goes badly for one guy who will get shot the following night. | ||
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On May 05 2013 02:53 yamato77 wrote: And you are scummy, because you never did push any lynch. I find it funny that you want to reject logic that might confirm you as town with the JK business. how is me not wanting the jk to get shot bad logic? You think i am scum. say jk comes out and i get confirmed as town? i get shot right after he does. if it looks like the person he knows is town by your logic ever looks like they are going to get lynched then claiming isn't a bad idea but doing it during a night phase is dumb as fuck. | ||
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On May 05 2013 02:56 yamato77 wrote: Who knows, JK might be someone else we're looking at. Why the fuck are you arguing against confirming 2 town this late in the game? Again if he is almost lynched then he can claim. Also against confirming? This game is about finding mafia no? Yes clearing town is helpful as fuck, but If Palmar and I are on the right track with our thinking then what does it matter? Currently we arent lynching either myself or palmar so why dont you do what he and i are doing and assume for the moment both he and i are town. | ||
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On May 05 2013 03:00 yamato77 wrote: Because I lynch mafia, and you are very likely to be mafia. Either way, I'd rather lynch hopeless today, but the BC/Palmar situation could be resolved in reality, and not some pretend fantasy world so long as the JK claims and clears one of you. and whats your solution if the town jk protected palmar and I get confirmed as town? Lynch him? because I am not as sure of him anymore. There doesn't have to be a mafia in the two of us, we just assumed there did. | ||
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On May 05 2013 03:09 TheRavensName wrote: I dunno, I think one of the lurkers has to be scum at this point. What happened to Sharrant and Giggles? They look way worse then anyone else to me right now for just how little they are actually doing, followed by stutters and Hopeless. sharrant played a huge role in the clarity lynch didn't he? If i am remembering correctly it would be ballsy as hell to bus your vig costing you two kp in one day | ||
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On May 05 2013 03:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: When would he have started bussing though? If clarity was already afk for quite some time it could be worth it. looking at his filter he would have been bussing shiapi and clarity and if hopeless is mafia he was pushing suspicion onto him very early day 1 as well. seems very unlikely as a mafia to do. | ||
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On May 05 2013 03:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Hopeless will flip scum, I feel that clears Yamato entirely, as far as he's still on the table. Since we're leaving BC and Palmar until we're one mislynch away, and removing people I'm confident are town, we have Stutters, TRN and Bill Murray left. of that list, bm and stutters have done the least i think. who all has TRN masoned recently? | ||
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On May 06 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote: I don't think it tells us much about Artanis's alignment at all. I stand by my earlier assessment that he's town. I am certain we need to lynch into these 4 people, based on my analysis during the night, with the added dimension that I think you must be town because you would have shot me if you realized I could be insane. Giggles BC Yamato Hopless I am inclined to lynch BC, based on what I wrote earlier about his effort and attitude towards the discussion I brought up during the night. I think we now 100% know what his reads are (Hopeless/Yamato) since he stated them pretty clearly, so if he flips town, we have all the information we need from him. I don't think he'll flip town though. go for it if you want. I will flip town and then you will have to worry about town wanting to lynch you. My firm belief is yamato and hopeless are the last two. I could be wrong, but given the current players left (myself included) i can make a case against every one of us as to why we could be scum. If town thinks its best to off me first then lynch into my reads, so be it. | ||
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On May 07 2013 03:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Ah found it, ok you're right. Doublestacking is more common than you'd think though. doublestacking vivax tho? its more likely town jk protected the vet mafia shot or they shot ace and ace went "luls fuck that not claiming" I am kinda in agreement with trn atm for myself and palmar. still see hopeless as possibly scum, sadly for yamato i still think hes scum as nothing either has done this game day has really changed that. | ||
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On May 07 2013 05:38 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm more convinced at this point I'm a greater benefit to town dead than alive. There's too much bullshit reasoning right now. Once people realize they need to rethink their stance on a lot of things, I'd hope it clears up a lot of things. With Palmar/BC set to potentially resolve itself (pending JK assistance and NK information) the town is going to need to play an effectively town-favored vanilla game. By my count its likely to be 11 town v 2 scum or 10 town v 2 scum v 1 3rd Party Once we mislynch (its practically inevitable at this point...) we'll be playing a normal mini. @Yamato's read post, there's this excerpt: I'm hoping thats based on his supposed roleblocker read/breadcrumbs or something to that effect because otherwise I'd lynch Yamato for this read. @Jailkeeper, I suggest claiming at the deadline for the daypost with your targets in the event that you are killed during this coming Night. I am of the opinion that the information is more valuable than your life at this point. Confirming one of BC/Palmar and shedding some light on how accurate yamato's reads are could potentially end the game. Also DO NOT block Palmar since he needs to use his check, duh. P.S. my vote remains on BC. See Artanis' case and Palmar's comments on the night ping-pong discussions. I dont like how he just assumes palmar or I must be scum. I can honestly say if i was scum or palmar was based on current flips i would have bussed those 3 so fucking hard for town cred, and i think palmar would have as well, or he would have completely afk derped / stayed off radars as much as possible. I have spent hours writing my own team mates posts before / making inactive ones die in a way i look good and palmar is pretty devious as well. Factor in our back and forth talking of reads I am more inclined on thinking we are both town at the moment. However you see the posts like you just quoted are reasons I have wanted to lynch yamato all game -_- Also, didn't he shit on me earlier in the game for posting reads then he did the same style of reads with very little info attached? | ||
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On May 07 2013 08:32 Palmar wrote: Maybe it's bias, but honestly, yamato is using exactly the same shitty logic I tend to use when I'm scum. dude this means you, me, ace, ve, have all read him as scum. Unless he is the single worst player in the world hes gotta be scum -_- | ||
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On May 07 2013 08:34 yamato77 wrote: 2/4 of those people aren't town. Good company you keep. Whatever, if you guys actually get close to lynching me, I will out the JK and hammer myself. This game has officially gone full retard. given that you have been calling me mafia all game and auto 180ed i find it hard to believe you. Also if you out the jk and he is town like we all expect you would be actively breaking the rule of play to win. | ||
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