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People I want to see die sooner than later:
Hopeless1der -
D1 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18408796 He's calling out Sharrant for fake contribution, pretty sure that's like statutory pot and kettle, some offhanded defense of Clarity
D2 - questionable defense of Clarity, zero interest in lynching Clarity at any point that I can find, only interested in ShiaoPi
Thinking about this from a scum perspective, Clarity is one of the ideal under-the-radar kind of scum partners I could possibly have. Ideally I can see mafia pushing for the other main wagon in an effort to keep Clarity around long enough to get a flip that makes townies look really bad. Hopeless never tries to figure out Clarity's alignment, he just defends Clarity every time Clarity is mentioned in his posts.
Stutters -
D2 - questionable defense of Clarity, voted ShiaoPi without considering Clarity at all, disengaged from thread, generally useless
Lurk more. Replaced a lurking/inactive vet, to continue to lurk/be inactive. Lurked. Never considered a Clarity lynch at all, just voted ShiaoPi and buggered off. Lurked. Not trying to figure anything out. More lurk. Is AFK. Lurk.
WoS -
Yeah, miller thing is kind of a sour situation that I'm not pleased to be put in. I will go with the wisdom of my town reads on this one and it seems he needs to go. Get all your info in the thread tonight.
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I can think of a reason to claim right now if he does feel at risk: weekends tend to reduce activity in general. If the Vig pops in, sees people requesting him to be shot, and they don't make it back before end of night to change their action based on the claim (regardless of its veracity) and their belief in it, he dies before that information is considered.
Hopeless I think I want to talk with you for a bit of you're going to be around. I like what you just posted and I'll be wrapping up what I'm doing momentarily to chat. Propose to me two lynches for tomorrow and I'll see how it lines up with my feelings/reads.
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On April 28 2013 11:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'd rather wait for flips but at the moment I'd want to lynch yamato, vig sylencia/stutters, and potentially lynch a vet who will remain nameless because I legitimately don't one which one I think is "faking it". I guess I don't want to lynch VE, but palmar ace and BC are up in the air.
I've come around a bit on VE myself, I don't really feel like lynching him anytime soon. Whether he adjusted his play because I pointed out the things I expected of a town VE (he turned his game around approx. when I was going to look further into his town history, I should probably still take a look for my own notes at some point) or because he just had the time/inclination to do so in face of me pushing for his lynch, I'm far less red on him than I was at the start of D2.
Agree with the vig on stutters, at the least. Syl's responses struck me as town and I could do with a full re-read of Syl at the moment so I'll check that out when I finish this reply. Are you thinking of something mentioned before when the topic of DrHelvetica's activity was brought up that I may also be thinking of? It's something for after Stutters' flip so I don't think I want to talk about it right now but do you smell what the Rock is cooking when I say that?
Last part, the camouflaged veteran, just based on statistics I think it's likely at least one of the 5 most experienced players is mafia (Doc H/Stutters now, BM, Ace, Palmar, BC being the most prolific players to my knowledge) and of those, the names you mentioned are the best bets when it comes to that subset of players. Possibly scummy concept related semi-related to the last paragraph as well to discuss after a Stutters flip if we get one.
Yeah maybe I am taking your actions at too much face value and not looking closely enough at your intent, we seem to be reasonably close in reads. Gonna take a look at Syl to see if I agree with calling for a Vig on him. He felt really townie to me early on despite lack of activity, though I semi-defended him for activity because I didn't want his filter full of just defense.
Pre-post edit: I see Yamato has named the veteran in question.
Need to restart my network, something is bugging out ...
On April 28 2013 11:30 yamato77 wrote:
And by dumbass, I mean he keeps telling people I'm mafia without a case.
I guess I have to show you guys just how much he is actually not trustworthy to get you to realize.
Yamato I want to see you get pissed like you did at VE in Nomination and solve the game. That was BALLER.
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On April 28 2013 11:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
OO:
If VE is town how do you explain mafia letting their vigilante die that easily?
Do you remember when Me VE and BM all bussed Artanis, our Mafia Godfather Assassin in Boardwalk? Sometimes killing a power role is what you have to do when you're backed into a corner. That's not what I think happened here since you're talking about Ace and I was thinking Palmar was the scummiest of the 5 so that may be where the thinking malfunction is coming from on my end.
(Also it's taking like 10 min no joke to generate the quote page and it's driving me insane, is anyone else having connectivity issues with TL but not other things? might be settled down now but I'm going to post this in case it starts acting up again...)
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On April 28 2013 12:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 11:59 ObviousOne wrote:On April 28 2013 11:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
OO:
If VE is town how do you explain mafia letting their vigilante die that easily? Do you remember when Me VE and BM all bussed Artanis, our Mafia Godfather Assassin in Boardwalk? Sometimes killing a power role is what you have to do when you're backed into a corner. That's not what I think happened here since you're talking about Ace and I was thinking Palmar was the scummiest of the 5 so that may be where the thinking malfunction is coming from on my end. (Also it's taking like 10 min no joke to generate the quote page and it's driving me insane, is anyone else having connectivity issues with TL but not other things? might be settled down now but I'm going to post this in case it starts acting up again...) That was because all of the fucking D1 candidates were town in PYP!!! It does not answer the question, if VE is town why didn't mafia even try to push a mislynch on D2???
(You ebwop'd you meant mafia on D1, yes, we bussed the best role we had in favor of the VE that wasn't even really around, it was hilarious especially with emperor or w/e killing VE TOO LOL)
Simplest possible answers I guess?
- They weren't here enough or vocal enough to derail it (Palmar's style has been playing by proxy [essentially +1/sheeping], not taking the lead in pretty much anything AKA let town tear itself down, if he goes to derail and Clarity later flips he looks terribly scummy)
- Clarity was objectively scummy and nigh impossible to derail. Go with the flow on Clarity for the credit. (NOTICE PALMAR YELLING DO IT DO IT!)
Boom. Palmar best candidate for mafia of the vets.
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On April 28 2013 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
So continue preaching to the choir by all means. In the meantime, I'm gonna go over here and be, ya know, USEFUL.
Forget him, do your thing. I am listening. If you need to bounce some ideas off me I'm game. Should be around for a bit.
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On April 28 2013 12:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 12:38 Ace wrote:On April 28 2013 12:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 28 2013 12:26 Ace wrote:
Wos-->alive.notshoot What does that mean? On April 28 2013 06:19 Ace wrote:
keyboard went bad. vigilante Yamato77. re-read VisceraEyes filter. med me.
cops--->
Oatsmaster: kushm4sta, GiygaS, kushm4sta, WaveofShadow,yamato77,VisceraEyes,getmoript, Mr. CC, Hopeless1der, Sylencia,
ShiaoPi: VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, yamato77, GiygaS, Mr. Cheesecake, WaveofShadow, Stutters695, getmoript, Hopeless1der
ShiaoPi-->temp green.Sharrant--> green On April 28 2013 07:42 Ace wrote:On April 28 2013 07:22 TheRavensName wrote:On April 28 2013 06:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mafia down to 1 kp for factional kp no?
Also TRN, stutters and sylencia would make good checks/vig targets.
So why shoot me? Remember the modkilled scum tried to look active and kill me, and if you looked you would know I can't be scum. My question: Why has no one really addressed WoS yet? he just claimed self aware miller but didn't counter claim before, and looked through the thread again Everyone has said WoS is scummy and yet no one except a very few amount of us have even tried to make a case against him. Wos--->filter--->alibi!!!!!! re-read! no vig yet till that. look @OP! Can you just say what do you mean? I don't understand.
Counter-claim useless because # of each role is unknown.
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On April 28 2013 12:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 12:38 Ace wrote:On April 28 2013 12:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 28 2013 12:26 Ace wrote:
Wos-->alive.notshoot What does that mean? On April 28 2013 06:19 Ace wrote:
keyboard went bad. vigilante Yamato77. re-read VisceraEyes filter. med me.
cops--->
Oatsmaster: kushm4sta, GiygaS, kushm4sta, WaveofShadow,yamato77,VisceraEyes,getmoript, Mr. CC, Hopeless1der, Sylencia,
ShiaoPi: VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, yamato77, GiygaS, Mr. Cheesecake, WaveofShadow, Stutters695, getmoript, Hopeless1der
ShiaoPi-->temp green.Sharrant--> green On April 28 2013 07:42 Ace wrote:On April 28 2013 07:22 TheRavensName wrote:On April 28 2013 06:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mafia down to 1 kp for factional kp no?
Also TRN, stutters and sylencia would make good checks/vig targets.
So why shoot me? Remember the modkilled scum tried to look active and kill me, and if you looked you would know I can't be scum. My question: Why has no one really addressed WoS yet? he just claimed self aware miller but didn't counter claim before, and looked through the thread again Everyone has said WoS is scummy and yet no one except a very few amount of us have even tried to make a case against him. Wos--->filter--->alibi!!!!!! re-read! no vig yet till that. look @OP! Can you just say what do you mean? I don't understand.
RED TEXT
he just claimed self aware miller but didn't counter claim before
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THIS GAME IS HARD TO PLAY WHEN PROLEAGUE IS STREAMING ARGH SO MUCH DELAY THIS WILL TAKE INORDINATELY LONG TO PUT TOGETHER
WoS said he tried to breadcrumb miller without claiming
OP says role numbers are unknown
TRN asked why there was no counter-claim
Ace says look at WoS filter so we look (not quoting with timestamps page loads are taking FOR FUCKING EVER):
Ok hai guise I'm awake. Bill Murray has gone and done a very interesting thing and I'm not so sure I understand his line of thinking in millerclaiming so early. Waiting on dat Palmar explanation.
Millers totes important, bro.
Hey Marv/Geript, still looking for an answer to my question you've so conveniently ignored.
- SENSITIVITY TO MILLER ROLE
BM did not claim, but WoS was willing to take it as a claim because he is aware that there can be more than one.
- FIRST LINE OF SECOND QUOTE
Why is miller totes important? It's not. It shouldn't be IMO. So this stands out. Reads as soft claim.
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On April 28 2013 13:28 Ace wrote:my laptop keyboard is broken thats why I was typing like that. @rayn: earlier I said self aware millers should claim with known role counts. but seeing people call him to be shot WoS claims. So I was saying go back to the beginning of the game and see if he said anything regarding Millers. He was clearly interested in Bill Murray's situation. If he is Scum he is running a long con, and sticking with it nicely. Being as I view WoS as kind of incapable of making such a play - based on my run in with him in Ego mafia and him not understanding something I deem basic - I doubt he's doing it. If he is he has experienced Scum on his team, and with Clarity and tube flipping I dont know how much we can trust that route. He might still be scum, but I dont think his claim puts him that way. If enough people want him shot - list those players and their reasons. How many of them are people you trust to be Town and have legit reasons? Look at yamato and VE. VE looks bad when clarity flips because of his resistance. re-read that interaction! yamato has been promising cases on BC and VE for over 3 days now and has never delivered. Both are paranoid of me being Scum which is absolutely dumb since I would have just killed my Scum vigi and drop our factional KP by 2. Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 13:07 Sharrant wrote:
Ace, what are you feeling on Hopeless? He's been on the wrong side of both lynches so far in the worst way possible. Unlucky town, or mafia? Very scummy looking or just dumb. Like VE seems super paranoid about me being Scum even with all that just went down to secure clarity's lynch. Not even pretending to read the thread. His entire reasoning rests on "some Vets must be scum" which is a ridiculous line of thinking, and a pretty poor place to start off of considering we have voting lists and 2 Scum flips. Now I wont have access to this computer all the time so I'll be back on my laptop playing charades and shit with you guys.
This post needs more Dwayne Johnson gifs IMO.
Do you agree that Palmar could be mafia based on his play by proxy? Would he step back and let town tear itself apart if he's the only veteran who is mafia? So far he's been sticking with the play-style for the most part (a lazy style IMO).
Ignore the spoiler if you hate pre-flip association thoughts
+ Show Spoiler [speculation/pre-flip association] +IMO I don't see him doing that if ACE BC BM VE DOCH are all town, BUT! it's possible that mafia has some power roles and DOCH/stutters is mafia as well (someone who when he's around is hyper-active early game, or at least that's the idea I get from 1-the podcast where he talked by himself, the beta cast and 2-he burns out quickly when he's scum), like we just learned with today's flip they had a vigilante in Clarity, and role #s are not known, they could have more. This needs a flip to have any credence so I guess i'll shut up about it for now.
But the question again so it's clear, does it make sense that Palmar would play by proxy solo if he's the only scum vet in such a potentially strong town?
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On April 28 2013 13:53 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 13:45 ObviousOne wrote:On April 28 2013 13:28 Ace wrote:my laptop keyboard is broken thats why I was typing like that. @rayn: earlier I said self aware millers should claim with known role counts. but seeing people call him to be shot WoS claims. So I was saying go back to the beginning of the game and see if he said anything regarding Millers. He was clearly interested in Bill Murray's situation. If he is Scum he is running a long con, and sticking with it nicely. Being as I view WoS as kind of incapable of making such a play - based on my run in with him in Ego mafia and him not understanding something I deem basic - I doubt he's doing it. If he is he has experienced Scum on his team, and with Clarity and tube flipping I dont know how much we can trust that route. He might still be scum, but I dont think his claim puts him that way. If enough people want him shot - list those players and their reasons. How many of them are people you trust to be Town and have legit reasons? Look at yamato and VE. VE looks bad when clarity flips because of his resistance. re-read that interaction! yamato has been promising cases on BC and VE for over 3 days now and has never delivered. Both are paranoid of me being Scum which is absolutely dumb since I would have just killed my Scum vigi and drop our factional KP by 2. On April 28 2013 13:07 Sharrant wrote:
Ace, what are you feeling on Hopeless? He's been on the wrong side of both lynches so far in the worst way possible. Unlucky town, or mafia? Very scummy looking or just dumb. Like VE seems super paranoid about me being Scum even with all that just went down to secure clarity's lynch. Not even pretending to read the thread. His entire reasoning rests on "some Vets must be scum" which is a ridiculous line of thinking, and a pretty poor place to start off of considering we have voting lists and 2 Scum flips. Now I wont have access to this computer all the time so I'll be back on my laptop playing charades and shit with you guys. This post needs more Dwayne Johnson gifs IMO. Do you agree that Palmar could be mafia based on his play by proxy? Would he step back and let town tear itself apart if he's the only veteran who is mafia? So far he's been sticking with the play-style for the most part (a lazy style IMO). Ignore the spoiler if you hate pre-flip association thoughts + Show Spoiler [speculation/pre-flip association] +IMO I don't see him doing that if ACE BC BM VE DOCH are all town, BUT! it's possible that mafia has some power roles and DOCH/stutters is mafia as well (someone who when he's around is hyper-active early game, or at least that's the idea I get from 1-the podcast where he talked by himself, the beta cast and 2-he burns out quickly when he's scum), like we just learned with today's flip they had a vigilante in Clarity, and role #s are not known, they could have more. This needs a flip to have any credence so I guess i'll shut up about it for now. But the question again so it's clear, does it make sense that Palmar would play by proxy solo if he's the only scum vet in such a potentially strong town? I could see him doing that. I dont view his laziness, by itself, as a scum tell for him. But not commenting on anything and just sheeping votes is not a good look. He's evaded scrutiny thus far because his name is Palmar. Likewise so has BC. It could be very possible they are both Town and like the way the game is going, seeing no reason to jump in and so too much just preferring to ride the wave. But I'm a little skeptical on that when it comes to BC because he voted for ShiaoPI even after I illustrated why he could be Town. I'd expect him of all people to absorb that one and get it instantly.
BC's return post after the lynch struck me as odd
On April 28 2013 06:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mafia down to 1 kp for factional kp no?
Also TRN, stutters and sylencia would make good checks/vig targets.
It's a soft town claim, but the targets he lists also make a lot of sense in the grand scheme, so I really can't call it either way. Does this specific way of soft-claiming trigger anything with you?
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Hi guys. Help me out here. Talk me through this. Think about Geript as mafia for a second.
Getmoript:
The post in which geript leaves his options open for lynch candidates
On April 25 2013 15:37 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 14:16 Ace wrote:
Oatsmaster: Palmar, kushm4sta, GiygaS, kushm4sta, WaveofShadow,yamato77,VisceraEyes,Palmar, Mr. CC, Hopeless1der, Sylencia, ShiaoPi What you did there.... I see it  I keed I keed. I'm going to remove Palmar and Kush as I doubt they're scum at this point. From filtering: VE: Scum but the mostly likely red guy to be town. He's lacking towny bite. Shiao: Scum Nothing other than Vivax case really needs to be mentioned here Sylencia: Scum I've already posted a case which he tried to sidestep, inactive, the passive inexplicable townread Giygas: NULLTown read x2, Prefers Oats but votes Yamato???, uses an odd heuristic, inactive Hopeless: NULL focuses on tickytack stuff, strange flip in view on rayn, inactive, I haven't WoS: NULL I really want to call him scum so badly especially when he says he has to go back t check on his view on kush. He doesn't have the balls he generally has. My problem is I always think he's scum. Yamato: NULL He's the hardest. He's all over the place. He's not obvtown like I've seen from him from PYP and hydraing, but I'm not seeing scummy intention. The oddest thing about him this game is that he keeps on wanting to lynch people that share his scum reads (Oats/CC). CC: Town weird pro/anti-town meta focus, his reads align with the rayn list pretty well, the scummiest thing about him is that he's not actively pushing an agenda. If rayn's list is solid, then CC isn't actively or passively bussing just less active town which is my impression of him from hydra. Shiao is 'safest' lynch. Dropping the hammer at an odd time with no reason, being inactive, not following up, etcetcetc. VE is the lynch that we need to be on right now; I don't think we'll get a good read out of VE otherwise. Hopeless and Giygas are about equal to me; just sheer inactives. Yamato breaking from the shared reads heuristic bothers me, but judging by filter size he's town.
The post in which he is ambivalent about which person is flipped (but secretly isn't when his mafia partner is en route to a modkill, what better way to deal with it than to push for the other wagon):
On April 27 2013 04:21 getmoript wrote:
I don't care which of the top targets is flipped today. I want a flip
Vote shiao
Casting doubt on one of the few players who has been wholly transparent this entire game:
On April 27 2013 08:29 getmoript wrote:
Ace, your points are bad and you should feel bad for making them. If clarity is scum, then that's two--TWO--scum who wholly afk'd. In that case, we can disregard the "can't have a lazy scum team" reasoning. Hydra just finished in a blowout (literally only 1 town death) because of lazy scum. Other than The Game, I can't think of an instance of an active, non-lazy scum team.
He has spent the entire game preventing himself from being backed into a corner on town reads and I hate it.
I HATE IT SO MUCH PLEASE LET'S TALK ABOUT GETMORIPT TONIGHT
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On April 28 2013 14:26 getmoript wrote:
Awe Ace, why don't you want to talk about me?
dat delurk
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On April 28 2013 14:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Except OO that last point....he was right about that and I remember reading that. Going to go have a re-look at the context.
Isn't this the post he was calling terrible? If it isn't then point me in the right direction. I hate it when mofos don't quote the things they talk shit about.
On April 27 2013 08:11 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, he didn't. He said he read the thread. Look at the top line.
"Well that took a lot of time to read" indicating that he read the thread. He didn't ever say he didn't read the thread, he said he read the thread. What are you even posting that as evidence of him saying? He's got limited time. We may be wrong in saying he didn't read the thread at all, but I agree he hasn't been reading it well enough. He did admit to sheeping Palmar like you asked. This sounds like a difference of what degree did ShiaoPi actually read the thread causing an argument. I think it's now clear he read it a little and sheeped his Town read and hero Palmar. Show nested quote +
Vivax very clearly said he wanted to lynch Shiao FIRST today, and you're using Vivax as a rallying cry to get people to lynch CLARITY Ace. That's why I'm having a hard time trusting your motivations here. And why I'm not going to switch based on your voting analysis.
huh? I'm not using Vivax to lynch Clarity. How is that even possible when I made it clear Sharrant's case is partly what I'm basing it off of. Vivax's original statement plus the Oats wagon is what originally led to ShiaoPi. You're confusing the two. The Vote Count Analysis isn't solely what's making me change. I'm going to try and make this clear once more: First thread of thoughtWe have a voting wagon of a Town player making a case on another Town player. We know this because they are both dead and confirmed Town. Clear opportunity for Scum to jump on the wagon - this is where ShiaoPi comes in. When Vivax dies, he is hit on two different threads since Vivax, a confirmed Town player calls him out. Note this doesn't make Vivax's accusation correct - just free from Scum bias. Hold this as the first thread of thought in your head. We get to our current point today. I compare the current Shiao wagon with the original wagon on Oats. I notice there is a large overlap of similar names. For Shiao to be scum TWO things have to happen: majority of the overlap between Oats wagon AND Shiao's would have to be Town. That is a rare possibility in my eyes. When taken in context with the Clarity wagon we see unique voters on his wagon. I don't think all 3 of these things can happen coincidentally. Now hold this as the first thread in your head. Even if you think this doesn't absolve ShiaoPi as scum, and it shouldn't, when added together with other threads of thought it does. Second thread of thoughtShiaPi not reading, or barely reading vs Clarity doing the same. The difference here is that Clarity got caught by Sharrant solidly for just looking at buzz words, skimming the thread and coming up with anything. He called out a policy lynch scenario that didn't even happen. ShiaoPi shows up and tells us he doesn't have much time, and is sheeping Palmar. Clearly, he isn't reading much but this IS possible from a town p.o.v.. This is the second thread, hold this in your head. Third thread of thoughtSo now we go back to ShiaoPi's wagon and assume he is Scum. That means if he dies and flips Town a whole host of people are in trouble. But we aren't lynching for information so the next best case is to look at Scum ShiaoPi from a voting aspect. He shows up, isn't reading the thread much. He votes for you VE, and NOT Clarity. The only other real suspect on the block. Even if he is Scum and not reading - how could his Scum team let that happen? they would be incredibly dumb and lazy to do so. Why go after you, a guy who has no real wagon on him and not save his own ass? It doesn't add up if he is Scum. The only explanation is him being Town and not reading enough to know whats going on, or he and clarity are Scum. If the latter case is true then the Scum team would be making an effort to push someone else. No one else is being pushed well from what I can see. If there is point it out to me. We also give you credit for calling tube out, and he did the same. This is the third thread. When you take all 3 seperately there are indeed arguments to be made that ShiaoPi is Town. There are also arguments that could show him Scum - mainly Vivax's accusation and his non-reading ways to sheepville. But Vivax isn't proven to be correct and sheeping isn't a scum only trait. Sharran't case looks much stronger now and ShiaoPi's weaker.
How is this bad?
The only way it's bad is in that it looks REALLY FUCKING GOOD ON ACE RIGHT NOW when we consider the flip.
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On April 28 2013 14:35 getmoript wrote:
Nah, Rayn was right about me misreading Giygas post. I still want Giygas to die for being a blender. I still want Shiao dead because Vivax case was good and Vivax died and people have fucking forgotten about that shit.
Lesson from scum cast 3:
Scum won't always kill someone who is on the right track. They will also kill someone who is capable of leading the town.
Vivax was looking really strong and ready to alpha this game.
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On April 28 2013 12:15 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy shit, i just figured out something. Something that is very clever play from mafia if i am right. But whether or not i'm right or wrong we all need to agree that WoS needs to be shot tonight. Does anyone figure out what do i meaning? Yes, now shut up.
![[image loading]](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FgK1I790HGs/UXy9t3wRBkI/AAAAAAAAA10/XmyMtYbB970/w600-h442/GGR-brass-balls.jpg)
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On April 28 2013 15:11 yamato77 wrote:
Kripp stopped streaming
afk
vigi me plz
Please don't.
Please stop.
If someone is pissing you off, ignore them. Step away, cool off, come back. I hope you return before Day post. You think Ace and what are your up to date other two scum reads? I agreed with you on BC and VE earlier in the game so I want to hear you out on your current set. Holler back when you are chilled out. See you later.
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On April 28 2013 15:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't think of any reason clarity wouldn't vote Shiao to save himself unless they both mafia.
Holy shit, Clarity's only vote ever was on Sharrant. That is amazing.
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I am making a pretty picture in google docs using a spreadsheet to look at voting trends with pretty colors. This is all based mostly on just looking at voting, no real analysis, just things I found interesting.
Stutters' only vote ever was ShiaoPi, his filter is like 6 posts long. Seriously this guy has to die tonight.
TheRavensName is an interesting place to look, I especially like to think about the implications of what this is supposed to mean: [ONLY VOTE EVER IS YAMATO]
On April 25 2013 06:12 TheRavensName wrote:Hmm, thanks for ruining it guys. I was going to be happy if my super secret ninja doubts about Vivax just trailing us around on a train and Palmer just being king palmer and unable to be scum were true, now I can't be sure of that second one  Time to spend much time trying to figure out if he was jailed or just role blocked.
ShiaoPi has only ever voted for Oats and VE, one confirmed town and one of my now-town reads.
Artanis only ever voted for Marv. Marv isn't in the game. Only scum read I can find in filter is from early Day 1 (GiygaS). Hasn't caught up with the game yet????
People who voted for Shiao but helped make the Clarity lynch happen, these people get +1 townie points, don't spend them all in one place:
Kush, Geript, Ace, CC, BC
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On April 28 2013 16:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +People who voted for Shiao but helped make the Clarity lynch happen, these people get +1 townie points, don't spend them all in one place:
Kush, Geript, Ace, CC, BC What does this mean? Why are there no other people who voted for Clarity in this list ?
They
1. Were voting for ShiaoPi at some point during the day [alignment unknown]
2. Changed their votes to Clarity [a mafia vigilante, also reducing scum faction KP by 1]
I thought I wrote that there at the beginning of the sentence before I listed their names but maybe I'm too tired to know how to write a complete and proper sentence. Townie points was a joke.
The final Clarity voter list is:
Grush, BM, Kush, Getmoript, OO, GiygaS, Rayn, Ace, CC, Sharrant, Palmar, BC (playerlist order, not vote order)
+ Show Spoiler [the plural of anecdote] +
People who didn't have a vote on anyone at the end of D2:
TheRavensName, Artanis, Clarity
People who didn't have a vote on anyone at the end of D1:
Stutters (IDR when he replaced in exactly), Oats, Tube, Artanis
People who are not even playing this game:
Stutters, Artanis, Sylencia
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