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ObviousOne
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On April 26 2013 12:44 Ace wrote: Bill Murray/ObviousOne what do you have to say about the recent discussion going on? OO Bill Murray is an eccentric kind of player. It is very possible he didn't read the thread, or read it and saw something no one else did and chose to comment on it. That is just how he is. Yeah probably I just expected him to be around at this time and wanted to check if he was here, also I 100% believe in the rule but if he admits he isn't caught up then I will take that at face value. BM, would scum Palmar leave town you open as a possible mislynch instead of telling everyone: On April 23 2013 09:21 Palmar wrote: Bill Murray is the towniest fucker in this thread. Basically that's where I ended up on you as well but it wasn't until some time later after everything settled in. From Palmar's perspective he is encouraging your possible scum reads and has essentially been playing by proxy +1'ing other people's posts. I guess I can see how he arrived there quickly since he was paying attention to you and I wasn't as concerned with getting a read on you at that point. | ||
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On April 26 2013 12:31 GiygaS wrote: Ace there was a 30 minute time delay between you telling everyone to settle down and wait, as the day is infinite, to you telling people to "not stall the fucking wagons" in bold. How is this not pushing for the lynch? How is telling people who haven't voted for oats to vote for oats not pushing for a hammer? The wagons were solid cases, even if they were wrong, objectively it was two scummy-looking players. The only point against Ace in any way regarding how things went down D1 is if he somehow knew both wagons were town and you have to start from the assumption that he is mafia (admittedly easier to do earlier in the game than now) to essentially guarantee a town lynch. He didn't say not to bring up fresh cases, he basically said don't bring up terrible fresh cases or they won't be considered. I mentioned he championed the lynches as the only options but realistically after 2 real days it was time to push forward for a D1 and someone had to do it or we might have been putzing for another day. Conversely I think we're being really productive still past the 2-RL day mark at this point but I do feel we should start listing today's candidates soon and Ace's idea of lynching from the scummiest players on the Oats wagon is probably a good place to start. That's kind of where I was going with my red names a short while ago. Another place we probably need to look is the Yamato wagon at some point (especially those who joined very easily or with very clearly bullshit reasons [BTW my reason was I preferred to lynch Yamato over Oats at the time, save you a few seconds of checking, your call whether or not it was bullshit] plus the outlier and non-voters as the other category for D1 lynch. Treat them all as the secondary category so we don't get pigeon-holed into being too granular with the search. | ||
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On April 26 2013 13:07 ObviousOne wrote: The wagons were solid cases, even if they were wrong, objectively it was two scummy-looking players. The only point against Ace in any way regarding how things went down D1 is if he somehow knew both wagons were town and you have to start from the assumption that he is mafia (admittedly easier to do earlier in the game than now) to essentially guarantee a town lynch. He didn't say not to bring up fresh cases, he basically said don't bring up terrible fresh cases or they won't be considered. I mentioned he championed the lynches as the only options but realistically after 2 real days it was time to push forward for a D1 and someone had to do it or we might have been putzing for another day. Conversely I think we're being really productive still past the 2-RL day mark at this point but I do feel we should start listing today's candidates soon and Ace's idea of lynching from the scummiest players on the Oats wagon is probably a good place to start. That's kind of where I was going with my red names a short while ago. Another place we probably need to look is the Yamato wagon at some point (especially those who joined very easily or with very clearly bullshit reasons [BTW my reason was I preferred to lynch Yamato over Oats at the time, save you a few seconds of checking, your call whether or not it was bullshit] plus the outlier and non-voters as the other category for D1 lynch. Treat them all as the secondary category so we don't get pigeon-holed into being too granular with the search. EBWOP: That's kind of where I was going with my red names a short while ago. Get a list of names going.** | ||
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With four mafia left, my thinking is that we take a collective look at the top 2 scummiest players from either category and decide from that list of four which we want to vote today. | ||
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On April 26 2013 13:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I still don't see why you want to ignore yamato and Clarity? Reading up on Yamato now, I'll get back to you in a bit with both refreshed reads. | ||
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Not sure what the hell he is talking about in his most recent post but that's probably my malfunction. On April 26 2013 08:40 yamato77 wrote: That BC case is entirely bullshit. I'm fully okay with lynching him now. When I have time, I will respond fully. He's slipping back into his early D1 posting habits as he is now town in many players' minds and thus not seemingly at risk of another lynch yet. Clarity is mentioned as not someone he is interested in lynching (noting this for myself as I move over to Clarity) Clarity's case on Sharrant initially struck me as a WTF moment, like as soon as I first saw Sharrant's name in red I was aghast. On April 24 2013 06:20 Clarity_nl wrote: And to this day I still don't understand what the "points against yamato and oats" were, so how could I comment on them. They were both trolly. Now oats is dead and yamato was 100% confident that he was town by the end. Read this quote above, read it three times. I think this honestly describes his entire filter. Ignorance and apathy and he's 100% okay with it. Fuck that. Of the two I would lynch Clarity first. Just for that last quote alone. | ||
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On April 26 2013 13:38 Bill Murray wrote: OO im a hair away from ignoring everything you type I will get caught up on the last 20 pages tonight I don't think you're mafia right now, pinky swear. Please respond to my previous question though because it is pertinent to better understanding Palmar's alignment IMO. On April 26 2013 12:51 ObviousOne wrote: BM, would scum Palmar leave town you open as a possible mislynch instead of telling everyone: Basically that's where I ended up on you as well but it wasn't until some time later after everything settled in. From Palmar's perspective he is encouraging your possible scum reads and has essentially been playing by proxy +1'ing other people's posts. I guess I can see how he arrived there quickly since he was paying attention to you and I wasn't as concerned with getting a read on you at that point. The bolded is what led to making you uneasy about him. What's your take on Palmar at this point? | ||
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Please replace some of those pronouns with nouns if you want an answer for this before I sleep, that's a lot of he/his and I'm completely lost and I want to understand it. Let's see if my interpretation is right so you might not even need to write it yourself: Yamato scummy for calling clarity scummy for clarity's post on sharrant then yamato does a 180 into a town read on clarity for the same reason but nothing happened to change yamato's mind in the thread. As if Yamato forgot he gave clarity a scum read and then changed his mind. My only answer is probably the one you're looking to get out of Yamato himself, as there is only really one possible not-scummy answer. I think the question is, will you believe it even if he gives you the right answer? | ||
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On April 26 2013 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: I disagree with the bolded part. Could you look at who did bring up points and why were they good? I'm a bit torn about GiygaS, one half of me says he is scum and the other one says he's just a misguided/bad townie. Day 1: This is what I wrote regarding D1 for GiygaS: GiygaS - scum - fuck it, why not, someone said he was so he has to be, and besides he was more concerned people spelled his name correctly than he was about making a contribution to the thread Day 2: nothing useful Today's action seems to be misrepresenting Ace's D1 actions and Palmar's intent to vote VE on D1. Points in his favor being he isn't choosing easy targets. Says he has a town read on VE that he mentions when listing things that make Palmar scummy, stems from On April 25 2013 15:59 GiygaS wrote: - VE: is a complete null read for me except for kush's idea of a mafia not thinking to post what he did first. Leaning town for that reason. I'm not behind the current votes for VE. This "post what he did first" refers to having to refer to the OP which should be completely null since everyone has to read the OP for their role information. Town read on Kush, his self-appointed lawyer (lol) who further used this idea: On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote: WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them. Misguided town, at best, is my current read on GiygaS. | ||
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I hope this letter finds you in good health. It has been a semi-troubling evening as there are very few players around to continue discussion as sleep takes us to dream world. This thread grows ever-larger, and I wish to inquire on your progress in reading the game. It has been some time since you joined and, while I'm sure you don't want to comment very much on things from many many pages ago, it would be fantastic to know if you will be caught up before the game day ends so we can get some informed reads from you regarding today's lynch. Please return this note with your response at your earliest. Warm and fuzzies, ObviousOne | ||
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On April 26 2013 14:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: OO; good morning. It's 9 am here and i probably need to sleep. I'm fuck tired. But, the points you brought up against GiygaS are valid. And i also want to hear more from Artanis, though i'm leaning town on him. 2am here laying on the couch reading the blogs section and giving bad advice in tech support on accident. Also ready for bed. Work out wiped me out. Hope I made a bit of sense tonight. I can't wait for Yamato to answer so you can hear my amazing pun. | ||
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On April 27 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote: If they did so, it was at your request OO. And who cares before he flips? Do you already know what he's gonna flip? Because I am manner. You ask like you know he is going to die for sure. Hrm! | ||
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ObviousOne
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Vote Clarity_nl. Vote on the wagon of righteous vengeance. Hey I just got back And this is crazy But Clarity is scum So vote him, maybe? | ||
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Btw the pun was "He had a moment of clarity and changed his mind outside the thread." | ||
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On April 28 2013 06:46 ObviousOne wrote: Yeah Yamato can die tonight, I would encourage that. He got super active to save his life d1 and it's been mostly downhill since he changed our minds. I made a short post about him couple nights ago that was slightly more detailed in the post where I decided to vote clarity. Btw the pun was "He had a moment of clarity and changed his mind outside the thread." I take it back, for some reason I thought they hadn't really had any interaction at all and I didn't take the time to look between baseboard cuts (home improvement projects ftl). Yamato's been calling him out for scummy business since his entrance. Took a look just now when I finally got to sit down at the computer and I was 100% wrong. | ||
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