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On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar
Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/
Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.
I would like to make today long enough to clear that fog before we lynch anyone.
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On April 26 2013 02:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO is there a case on BC? From what I can see it's based pretty much solely on his activity, which he explained well in advance would be lacking. Like...why is he being seriously considered for lynch? Especially when there are players like ShiaoPi and Clarity (and VE -.-) running around?
Nothing in his filter says he's town to me. Skating by on Vet cred when no Vets are dead. He's been an anti-town presence when he's around. His scumhunting consists of calling yamato and me scum as far as I can see. He's a bully. Not interested in a positive town atmosphere. Some of this is clearly rectifiable and his activity will not clear him necessarily as much as him making sense and being productive. I want him to feel the fire under his ass and to know that vets will never be allowed to be useless when I'm around.
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On April 26 2013 03:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I suggest we follow through with the shiaopi lynch. Also cobbler sounds tasty
Yeah yeah yeah in a bit. Hold your horses. Short days favor scum. You scumming it up again?
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On April 26 2013 03:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Implying I wanted to have the day short. I said i wanted to lynch shiao, doesnt mean we cabt drag it on.
That's how I read your post Luigi. Sorry. Here's a POW block you can smash.
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Let's talk about Ace instead of insulting each other's intelligence.
Ace seems to have gotten the hang of the thread sentiment and is acting accordingly. Does town Ace conform/blend just the same?
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FWIW rayn pissed me off just like that in RTP and we were both town there.
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Dear Palmar,
Wazup.
Why do you think ShiaoPi is town? Please respond at your earliest.
Love,
ObviousOne
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Dear Stutters,
Welcome to the game. Thank you for catching up. Your commentary regarding VE is highly valued.
Please would you discuss another scum read or two at your earliest convenience? I think we would all find that super swell and feel more certain of your alignment if you could get those thoughts shared with everyone before the day is out.
Warmest brofists,
ObviousOne
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On April 26 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO you're much more enjoyable when you're posting friend.
I'm leaving for a couple hours to hit the gym in a few minutes. I'm also sort of looking at what's unfolding based on my early push of you today and it's interestingly polarizing. Sorry it had to be you. I can't read you. I thought you were mafia in LX. I knew you were mafia in Nomination and Hydra Mini and Boardwalk for reasons you already know. I really want to get a better handle on your town game mentality, so I will be fishing through your old games to get a slightly better handle on you but I will not be providing a meta case unless it will be for me to decide if I want to push you further.
Originally after I said I wanted to vote you, you started to go for sheeping Vivax's final read. I thought wow, that's convenient, he's on to the same case as the most recent confirmed town. Wasn't pleased. I am warming up to you and you have certainly given me enough to work with for my own private meta read / feel of you. Your interactions with my main scum read are slightly suspect because you are both essentially calling each-other town and I want to take that viewpoint into consideration regarding BC when I read his most recent contributions again after going through your old town games.
I am glad you didn't actually ragequit about the Rayn thing. Yes it's annoying when he seems to make shit up, but I've realized after three games together with him he sees things a little bit differently and I take his accusations with a grain of salt. His attack on you where he made shit up doesn't necessarily make him scum to me, because he did the same exact thing in Red Team's Prize (our first game together).
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On April 26 2013 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 08:36 ObviousOne wrote:On April 26 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO you're much more enjoyable when you're posting friend. I'm leaving for a couple hours to hit the gym in a few minutes. I'm also sort of looking at what's unfolding based on my early push of you today and it's interestingly polarizing. Sorry it had to be you. I can't read you. I thought you were mafia in LX. I knew you were mafia in Nomination and Hydra Mini and Boardwalk for reasons you already know. I really want to get a better handle on your town game mentality, so I will be fishing through your old games to get a slightly better handle on you but I will not be providing a meta case unless it will be for me to decide if I want to push you further. Originally after I said I wanted to vote you, you started to go for sheeping Vivax's final read. I thought wow, that's convenient, he's on to the same case as the most recent confirmed town. Wasn't pleased. I am warming up to you and you have certainly given me enough to work with for my own private meta read / feel of you. Your interactions with my main scum read are slightly suspect because you are both essentially calling each-other town and I want to take that viewpoint into consideration regarding BC when I read his most recent contributions again after going through your old town games. I am glad you didn't actually ragequit about the Rayn thing. Yes it's annoying when he seems to make shit up, but I've realized after three games together with him he sees things a little bit differently and I take his accusations with a grain of salt. His attack on you where he made shit up doesn't necessarily make him scum to me, because he did the same exact thing in Red Team's Prize (our first game together). The difference is that in that game he eventually saw reason where here he keeps reaching - but frankly it could have just been you getting lynched that opened his eyes in RTP. :/ I look forward to your conclusions. If you could walk me through your suspicion of BC that would be supreme. When you get back-like.
Good deal. I will discuss you, BC, take another look at Palmar for posterity (I was just browsing through his filter and he's falling down in my towniness list, also I am not so sure how he was sure BM was the "towniest-looking motherfucker" or whatever so early in the game. Nobody fucking hammer nobody while I'm gone or I'm gonna be right pissed.
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On April 26 2013 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could someone tell me where i'm making shit up? I said VE has not done any real scumhunting. I don't see where his scumhunting is. Yes, he has asked some people some questions, but that doesn't qualify to me as scumhunting. I don't see where he is "trying to find out their motives" as he claims. There are no follow up's to his questions, unless everything ends up in the people he questions being a town-read, which is fishy in itself. I said he lied about Palmar not having a scumread on him when voting for him. If someone says this is not true they are scum or not reading the thread at all. At least Palmar has enough balls to call people scum or town.
I don't know if you did but it's how you made me feel with your style. He's saying the same kinds of things I did in RTP so I empathize in that regard.
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Departure was delayed about 20 minutes, couple more thoughts
On April 26 2013 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 08:47 ObviousOne wrote:On April 26 2013 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could someone tell me where i'm making shit up? I said VE has not done any real scumhunting. I don't see where his scumhunting is. Yes, he has asked some people some questions, but that doesn't qualify to me as scumhunting. I don't see where he is "trying to find out their motives" as he claims. There are no follow up's to his questions, unless everything ends up in the people he questions being a town-read, which is fishy in itself. I said he lied about Palmar not having a scumread on him when voting for him. If someone says this is not true they are scum or not reading the thread at all. At least Palmar has enough balls to call people scum or town. I don't know if you did but it's how you made me feel with your style. He's saying the same kinds of things I did in RTP so I empathize in that regard. I'm used to off-thread comm games, that's why i tend to interact with players who are online when i am and who i think are mafia. I understand this might make me look annoying, as i want to ask one question at time. This however does not mean i'm tunneling someone (i guess you can say at that time i am), i have a clear picture of the game as whole and i have thoughts on all the players (at least i try to).
Am I still null leaning scummy to you? If you have questions for me please feel free to ask them. Mostly I feel like we should spend some more time talking to better understand each other as neither of us is great at reading the other, it seems.
@VE: Broad strokes of your (town) Noir game show you doing a lot of back and forth with other players, attempting to engage in conversations instead of just plain accusations to suss out information, and less single-minded-purpose than you are this game. (you felt more active there, compared to this game, and this is a large game, and you seem to have IRL stuff to attend to based on your posting times, so I expect there to be differences, I also realize that this is only one town game and I will have to check a couple more including large games to get a better feel, so this is a preliminary comparison I guess for you to tighten your sphincter in anticipation of the rest in case it's more of the same type of deal.)
Here you seem to be more single-minded about things, proffering a lot of defense instead of going on the offense (I think I'll compare LX D1 to your D1 here for starters since I KNOW you were in that game and town).
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On April 26 2013 09:11 getmoript wrote:
@OO Why are you not voting Giygas?
D2 is young, sir. Consider your case noted and acknowledged. I'll vote when I'm ready for the day to end.
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On April 26 2013 09:19 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 09:14 ObviousOne wrote:On April 26 2013 09:11 getmoript wrote:
@OO Why are you not voting Giygas? D2 is young, sir. Consider your case noted and acknowledged. I'll vote when I'm ready for the day to end. Aren't we closing in on 48 hours? Why do we need to extend it?
I'm not finished playing D2 out. Sorry. Why the rush?
/leaving now
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On April 26 2013 11:45 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 26 2013 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well what do you think then BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then? BM is ever a mystery to me. I'll have to look into his filter to answer this sufficiently. Being wrong doesn't mean that he's scum...and Palmar wasn't "wrong" about tube, he said "I find inactivity exceptionally scummy in this setup" and proceeded to ignore an inactive. That IS scummy. im not sure tube is town 100% it was a specific question about him... i wouldnt EVER bring up tube... hes mainly null from me... havent seen much out of him
Scum claim right here guys.
Scum BM doesn't read the thread. Town BM does.
GG no re
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BM Palmar ShiaoPi GiygaS
90% of the game of Mafia is half skill. The other half is reading.
BOOM!
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My house of cards is toppled =[
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BM not reading the thread as mafia is 100% true. I was just mafia with him in boardwalk. We talked on Skype for 4 hours so I can't show you logs.
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On April 26 2013 12:29 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 12:25 ObviousOne wrote:
BM not reading the thread as mafia is 100% true. I was just mafia with him in boardwalk. We talked on Skype for 4 hours so I can't show you logs. this is a blatant lie.
False.
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On April 26 2013 12:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 12:26 Ace wrote:
yes. Maybe you missed the post I made earlier but basically it was Oats (Town) was accused by Vivax (Town) and gets lynched by 13 players. I doubt all 13 are Town because that would be incredible luck and insight on Scum's behalf to all miss that vote. Hence we should look at who is on the wagon. Combine it with Vivax, the only N1 death meaning someone really wanted him dead because of his accusations, and he was right about something. Combine those seperate threads of thought/looking for scum and thats how I got to the points I'm at. Yeah i understand it now. However, whatever yamato is, i doubt all scum were on Oats wagon. That's why i think this tells little about Clarity/ShiaoPi and their chances of being mafia (i mean, their chances of being scum just by analyzing D1 wagons as numbers). One thing that bothers me is people saying ShiaoPi is mafia because he hammered Oats (especially if yamato is town). Oats was L-1 and we were waiting players to consolidate, don't you think scum would be more careful with hammer in that situation?
Just checked ShiaoPi's game history back to his newbie games and it doesn't appear he and Oats have ever played together unless Oats smurfed in one of those games. Explains him not knowing Oats' play style / personality.
I like him less and less every time I tab back to his filter. Who on earth thinks ShiaoPi is town and why?
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