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On May 10 2013 21:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
...that's easily the scummiest thing you've done all game Palmar, and that's saying something. Activity, especially for me, is not alignment indicative. This is the lazy man's route but the whole time you're spouting off about how no one has a good reason to lynch you. Welll fuck it, you're voting to lynch a townie so that's reason enough.
##Unvote: GiygaS
##Vote: Palmar
correction: This is the confused man's route. I was lazy early on, but seeing as I actually like winning I've been putting in effort now.
But I read the game again and again, and I can't come up with a solid enough reason for someone to be scum.
WoS is the best scum in a long while on TL if he's scum
BC is scummy but has the roleblock
geript is scummy but has the modconfirm
Kush has done some strange things, but also some things like the VE role thing (which seemed well thought out).
GiygaS seems scummy but yamato thought he was town... so idk?
Artanis seems active and interested enough in the game, I guess
Bill Murray, as I pointed out to WoS, is playing a vastly improved scumgame if he's scum
TRN is mason /shrug
You're the odd man out, and me, I guess.
obviously seeing as I'm town, one or even two (if you're town) of those people are getting an unjustified town-read. I'm not sure which, but I think WoS and BM should be off the table. Maybe Artanis too.
But then again, I have very little trust in my reads at this point.
This is not a scummy vote (as you seem to think). This is a resigned vote, but I'm willing to be convinced, why don't you take that opportunity instead. ELI5 why you're not scum. write out the narrative of your game play like I've done.
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On May 10 2013 23:22 kushm4sta wrote:
im pretty sure BH fucks with the teams
possible, and it's entirely possible BC is scum. I, again, point to what I conceived as a very different effort level and explanation level in our 1 on 1 session during that night.
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Also artanis slot is off the table IMO for how drazak acted before he asked for a replacement. I think scum drazak would have just tried to afk it up instead of ask for a replacement.
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I think Scalmar would've made a bullshit case up about a townie by now if he were scum. He seems legitimately confused and I don't think this is the route he'd take if he were scum because it doesn't align with trying to stay alive. Looks like Talmar.
Off to Hopeless we go.
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##Vote: Hopeless1der
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yeah I agree palmar looking quite town recently
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On May 10 2013 23:30 kushm4sta wrote:
Also artanis slot is off the table IMO for how drazak acted before he asked for a replacement. I think scum drazak would have just tried to afk it up instead of ask for a replacement.
With all I've posted that's why I'm town?
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~~~ Vote Count ~~~
Hopeless1der: (4) GiygaS, kushm4sta, Palmar, Artanis[Xp]
Palmar: (3) Artanis[Xp], getmoript, WaveofShadow, Hopeless1der
GiygaS: (2) Bill Murray, Hopeless1der, TheRavensName
getmoript: (0) Palmar
kushm4sta: (1) BloodyCobbler
TheRavensName: (0) WaveofShadow
Remember, this Day ends when a majority is reached. As soon as a majority is reached, please stop posting until the Night Post has been posted. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here: (link)
Please keep in mind that with 10 alive it now only takes 6 votes to lynch! If there are any mistakes in the vote count, please inform us.
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Those fucking spiderman pics kill me.
Ill be at a computer in a little bit, might have active time today to go at TRN. At the very least Palmar ill show you why my vote's on you.
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WoS I asked you this yesterday but you never answered. Why not Hopeless??
Instead you are going after TRN and Palmar which are frankly terribad choices atm.
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The problem I am having here is the same as Palmar just pointed outn and TRN pointed out about me earlier. Too few people who I can read as solely town due to their actions. Hopeless for me is one of those people: his voting is scummy as all fuck but his actions seem towny. I want to look into TRN just because. Palmar for reasons I have outlined in the past. I will link the post when I have computer access.
Kush you of all people have absolutely no right to question what I am doing or why.
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Palmar, your reasoning for GiygaS seems to come down to "some other townie said so". Makes me sad bro. When I flip town calling giygas scum, what happens?
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On May 10 2013 23:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Kush you of all people have absolutely no right to question what I am doing or why.
ok then can someone else question WoS on why Hopeless' actions look townie?
Can someone else ask Wos, what actions specifically look townie? Is it his megaposts full of townreads?
Also can someone inform WoS that it looks like hopeless is going to get lynched today, and he should be your main focus atm. Pushing two suspects that no one is going to listen to is not helpful to the game right now.
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On May 10 2013 23:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Those fucking spiderman pics kill me.
Ill be at a computer in a little bit, might have active time today to go at TRN. At the very least Palmar ill show you why my vote's on you.
thanks.
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On May 10 2013 23:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Palmar, your reasoning for GiygaS seems to come down to "some other townie said so". Makes me sad bro. When I flip town calling giygas scum, what happens?
This is a wifom bomb.
It doesn't make sense for town to say this, because town knows that being town doesn't make your reads right.
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On May 10 2013 23:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Palmar, your reasoning for GiygaS seems to come down to "some other townie said so". Makes me sad bro. When I flip town calling giygas scum, what happens?
I don't know.
I honestly don't have this strong town read on GiygaS, but a lot of people I have a strong town read on have it.
For a long while I was convinced BC/giggles were the remaining scum, but I really don't know.
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On May 09 2013 01:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Aw, here you go and actually put effort into something...I was so set to troll the rest of the night too.
I don't understand how you can exude such an attitude of complete confidence despite your performance this game; it's that arrogance that kush outlined that absolutely infuriates me, including your propensity to compltely ignore or shrug off those points from people you deem 'terrible' and either not worth your time or not worth listening to. (This may just be referring to me in this case, but it's an attitude I see from a few players on mafia, BC included. Ace appears to be an exception.)
Despite the fact that you see me and my cases as terrible, I've been right about quite a few things this game (though nobody appears to acknowledge this---yet you're constantly bringing up things YOU were right about), and I also know who the JK is, and have for a little while now. There are many things that I have contributed that simply get bypassed because my way of figuring out the game doesn't fit within the brackets of what you would determine to be 'good play' yet apparently achieves the same result (or in this case, BETTER results if people ever listened to me).
I was unsure about your case originally when I wrote it, but if you'd read it wasn't necessarily a case to get you lynched, it was merely a summation of my thoughts on you, some points and counterpoints, and then I literally said "I dunno guys, help me out." AND NOBODY DID. Town is a team, and no one can be sure of their own cases/reads all of the time, not even you, yet many people treat their reads as G-d's word to fucking Moses. It was an opening for you or anyone else to say: "your case is shit and here's why." "Or I agree for such and such reasons" But nobody did so I was left with my own thoughts echoing in my head.
I'm going to wipe all bias I have clean when I look into you over the next little bit, just as I did the first time. If you ignore it then despite what I find I will be pushing for your lynch tomorrow as I will therefore not be seeing you as an asset to town alive, only through the information gleaned by your death. Whether or not people listen to me on that will not matter to me. Whether or not you feel threatened by this does not matter to me. If you, or other people respond, perhaps we can actually begin to solve this game properly.
I gave you ample warning Palmar, not only here, but in a couple posts after this I believe.
You once again ignored my analysis of you, therefore you are my target. Just because you believe people are voting you for no reason doesn't make it true. You had plenty of opportunity to address my questions towards you as well as my case and you chose to ignore them once again. I will be taking that as a scum response, assuming you have no good answers to the questions I have posited.
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On May 10 2013 23:58 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 23:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Kush you of all people have absolutely no right to question what I am doing or why. ok then can someone else question WoS on why Hopeless' actions look townie? Can someone else ask Wos, what actions specifically look townie? Is it his megaposts full of townreads? Also can someone inform WoS that it looks like hopeless is going to get lynched today, and he should be your main focus atm. Pushing two suspects that no one is going to listen to is not helpful to the game right now.
Kush, I don't give a shit if you've decided to be all supertown 2 weeks into the game; your push means nothing to me. If I find Hopeless scummy it will be because of something anyone but you did.
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Artanis, if Hopeless goes down today and flips town, what is our next course of action?
It seems people will want to look into Gigs....
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On May 11 2013 00:16 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 23:58 kushm4sta wrote:On May 10 2013 23:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Kush you of all people have absolutely no right to question what I am doing or why. ok then can someone else question WoS on why Hopeless' actions look townie? Can someone else ask Wos, what actions specifically look townie? Is it his megaposts full of townreads? Also can someone inform WoS that it looks like hopeless is going to get lynched today, and he should be your main focus atm. Pushing two suspects that no one is going to listen to is not helpful to the game right now. Kush, I don't give a shit if you've decided to be all supertown 2 weeks into the game; your push means nothing to me. If I find Hopeless scummy it will be because of something anyone but you did.
LOL dude wtf. I'm not asking you to respect me or be convinced by me or anything. I'm just asking you why specifically is hopeless town.. My questions are about your own thoughts, not mine.
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On May 11 2013 00:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Artanis, if Hopeless goes down today and flips town, what is our next course of action?
It seems people will want to look into Gigs....
Currently I'd like to flip Geript after.
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