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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 01:19 GMT
#5766
On May 16 2013 10:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
geript, town has played horribly to the point of appearing as scum. Given that + how quickly the first few days went with auto raping of scum its no surprise we are in this state -_-


One of WoS and palmar is likely mafia. The other is geript/giggles.

Now I say this for one simple reason. Given how many flipped roles we have of fucking with our dts (which we seem to have a bunch of) it seems unlikely to have 1 framer, 1 unaware miller, 1 aware miller, and a paranoid dt. That screams bastard hosts far to much. As such one of the two is likely mafia (having 3 roles to fuck with dts not as asshattish).

Given that I know I am town. I also think the removal of marv seems unlikely if he was mafia. As such I am inclined to say giggles mafia.

Of WoS and Palmar I would need to take a closer look at their filters.

Except how can you be sure?
I found myself doubting the fact that TRN was town simply because I don't understand why you'd have 2 town masons and no scum mason (The Game's mason roles were balanced). I refuse to go on host bullshit any longer, and I'm going to be real pissed at the town and real pissed at myself for believing them if Geript is scum for letting him go on for so long doing absolutely dick all because 'modconfirmed town u guise.'
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 01:20 GMT
#5768
On May 16 2013 10:15 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 09:53 Palmar wrote:
On May 16 2013 09:28 getmoript wrote:
On May 16 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
Also, just so I have your metrics clear. Am I correct in my understanding that it's scummy for me not to have lead a lynch on scum by day 8, but not scummy for you? It's scummy that I haven't been shot, but not you? It's scummy that "I refuse to give analysis" but the fact that I probably have twice the amount you have, but that's ok?

I just want us to be on the same page for the discussion. Are these three things all true?

No, I admitted that there's no good reason for BC, you or me to be alive. And yes, I hold a good player to a higher standard than myself. Can you explain why you've been so wrong Emperor Palmtree?


Do you stand by your assessment that I have done no analysis or refused to give reasoning this game? Is this opinion of yours based on extensive read of my filter?

Your reasoning for voting for people has pretty consistently been that they called you scum aside from clarity and that was well after clarity was already going to happen. You've failed to produce analysis which actually has lead to a scum lynch. So yah.

Practically everybody has failed to produce analysis that led to a scum lynch, bro. That's why we're in this situation.
Clarity and Shiao is all we've got and that was weeks ago, and not everybody can claim credit for them.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#5773
On May 16 2013 10:10 getmoript wrote:
I'm not a mind reader WoS. And no, the fact that there are not 2 votes on Palmar means either that I'm scum, Palmar is scum or Giygas and BC are scum.

Take your vote off of him.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#5774
On May 16 2013 10:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 16 2013 10:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
geript, town has played horribly to the point of appearing as scum. Given that + how quickly the first few days went with auto raping of scum its no surprise we are in this state -_-


One of WoS and palmar is likely mafia. The other is geript/giggles.

Now I say this for one simple reason. Given how many flipped roles we have of fucking with our dts (which we seem to have a bunch of) it seems unlikely to have 1 framer, 1 unaware miller, 1 aware miller, and a paranoid dt. That screams bastard hosts far to much. As such one of the two is likely mafia (having 3 roles to fuck with dts not as asshattish).

Given that I know I am town. I also think the removal of marv seems unlikely if he was mafia. As such I am inclined to say giggles mafia.

Of WoS and Palmar I would need to take a closer look at their filters.

Except how can you be sure?
I found myself doubting the fact that TRN was town simply because I don't understand why you'd have 2 town masons and no scum mason (The Game's mason roles were balanced). I refuse to go on host bullshit any longer, and I'm going to be real pissed at the town and real pissed at myself for believing them if Geript is scum for letting him go on for so long doing absolutely dick all because 'modconfirmed town u guise.'


Geript does nothing as town basically ever. I also just can't see marv getting modkilled as scum over something stupid as refusing to use a host made qt. He can just refuse to post in the scum qt anyway if he just wanted to talk to geript. This seems completely like a marv was happy talking to his hydra buddy in his own qt and the hosts gave him one later and said he had to use it. He was like "wtf no yo"

In a situation where he was on a team I think he would be less likely to get himself modkilled as it fucks his team. Obviously its speculation but its also based on how he has interacted with me in the past.

As such I can only conclude of him and giggles giggles is the scum.

I'm going to disagree with you saying that Geript does nothing as town. He TRIES to do stuff, much like I do, but generally it amounts to nothing, also much like me. This game I see a marked decrease in effort and activity from every other game in which I've played with him.

As far as the modkill is concerned, I just can't put any weight on a read like that. If I conclude Geript to be scum it will be when I look into his filter because honestly it's just you two at this point who I haven't read in depth I think.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#5776
BC I don't like that you've voted either right now.
All we need is one dumb towny or scum to fuck it up right now.
I can't assume anything about Gigs or Palmar being town voted by town 'because the two scum haven't ended the game,' because at any point in time they may not be active.

Can we please slow this down right now? I tried to rush lynch kush based on a gutread and BC's help and even though it wasn't exactly rushed we fucked up. This feels even worse than that one did and has real potential of going tits up any minute.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 17:45 GMT
#5780
On May 16 2013 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 10:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
geript, town has played horribly to the point of appearing as scum. Given that + how quickly the first few days went with auto raping of scum its no surprise we are in this state -_-


One of WoS and palmar is likely mafia. The other is geript/giggles.

Now I say this for one simple reason. Given how many flipped roles we have of fucking with our dts (which we seem to have a bunch of) it seems unlikely to have 1 framer, 1 unaware miller, 1 aware miller, and a paranoid dt. That screams bastard hosts far to much. As such one of the two is likely mafia (having 3 roles to fuck with dts not as asshattish).

Given that I know I am town. I also think the removal of marv seems unlikely if he was mafia. As such I am inclined to say giggles mafia.

Of WoS and Palmar I would need to take a closer look at their filters.

Except how can you be sure?
I found myself doubting the fact that TRN was town simply because I don't understand why you'd have 2 town masons and no scum mason (The Game's mason roles were balanced). I refuse to go on host bullshit any longer, and I'm going to be real pissed at the town and real pissed at myself for believing them if Geript is scum for letting him go on for so long doing absolutely dick all because 'modconfirmed town u guise.'

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#5781
Are you absolutely certain that BH didn't throw all these roles into the game? Because unless you are I see no reason to risk losing the game on that kind of a gamble.

Why do you have geript as more likely to be town?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 18:00 GMT
#5784
I see you removed your vote, I appreciate it.
One of the only people I was absolutely sure was town was Gigs and due to the jailing BC is supposed to be town as well. I can technically vote into your pattern BC but I disagree with you on the Gigs/geript side of things, and i still have to re-read a bunch of things before I make any decisions.

I guess you probably won't answer but what do you mean 'if things stay as they are?'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 18:08 GMT
#5786
So you think Gigs and Palmar? Simply due to inactivity when it counts? Hmm.
Again I'm uncomfortable just throwing a vote out until I've done what I want to do so you may have to wait a little while. It will happen tonight though. I am tempted to wait until Gigs shows up again as well just to see what he has to say.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 20:47 GMT
#5793
I don't like this wagon either.
I certainly don't think it's a bus this late into the game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 20:48 GMT
#5796
Ugh this goes completely against my palmar/geript scumline of thinking though, if palmar were scum and gigs town it would be over already.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 20:51 GMT
#5798
Haha I'm talking about this to my wife right now and she's says you're scum, Palmar.
GG.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 20:57 GMT
#5800
Alright let me think here. Thought diarrhea to help me out:
Palmar/BC scumteam unlikely due to jailing? (unless you two are super fucking sneaky and you jailed scum N1. ANything is possible at this point I guess)
Palmar/geript impossible (gigs would have been dead and gg)

gigs/geript possible
BC/geript possible.
BC/gigs impossible (Palmar would have been dead and gg)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 20:58 GMT
#5801
Apparently I deleted one by accident.
Palmar/gigs possible.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 21:17 GMT
#5803
Fucking second game now it's coming down to me and I fucked it up the first time.
I'm going to take a while for this.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 21:28 GMT
#5808
On May 17 2013 06:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fucking second game now it's coming down to me and I fucked it up the first time.
I'm going to take a while for this.


think of it this way. Do you think both geript and I are scum?

Do you think one of us is town?

If you think either of us is town, gigyas is confirmed mafia.

Essentially geript is confirmed town (in my head anyway) and if you look at day 1 rbs then the only way I am scum is if scum defensively roleblocked a player most likely to get shot by a vig (if town had one) on a day town vig's couldnt shoot.

There is absolutely no reason mafia would rb on day 1 defensively.

Alright. Re-reading my read of Giygas I found a whole bunch of evidence of a gigs/Palmar scumteam that I sort of ignored because of his early pushes on both Shiao and Clarity...but then there's shit like this.

On April 26 2013 09:56 GiygaS wrote:
Oh and my reading on Palmar is not town anymore, but scummy, but not as scummy as Ace or ShiaoPi


Did he really bus his entire team that early into the game?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 21:29 GMT
#5810
Hmm that quote doesn't really get across what I'm reading in his filter.
He essentially calls both Shiao and Clarity scum, then moves directly onto Palmar from there during talk about Ace.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 21:30 GMT
#5811
What happens if I vote Palmar right now?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 21:40 GMT
#5817
On May 08 2013 14:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 13:10 GiygaS wrote:
Just off the top of my head, you're forgetting both WoS, Hopeless, and Getmoript on that deductive reasoning list. Also, I wouldn't be so sure on Stutters being town because of tube vote. Tube may have known that he was gonna get modkilled and WIFOM bombed Stutters. I'll look at this filter after school tomorrow to get a read on him, Hopeless and WoS and make a decision from there. I still think Palmar is town because of that early clarity bus, but I'll also reevaluate his filter tomorrow.

well if palmar flips scum i know who i'm lynching
and i'm going to be happy about it
you were the weakest shiaopi "clear" i was considering, taking into account you unvoted the wagon, and detracted from it



Fuck it. I need this game to be over.
YOLO
BM caught a scumslip here I think and gigs flips his game-long scumread of palmar to town without even saying anything as numbers dwindle. Never votes him either all game despite calling him scum.

If I just lost us the game, then GG scum, you deserve it, and I will forever be a shit player it seems.

##Vote: GiygaS
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#5818
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