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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 02 2013 21:05 GMT
#4361
On May 03 2013 06:04 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 06:02 Sharrant wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:54 yamato77 wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:52 Sharrant wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
How so yamato?
Also wtf Sharrant you accuse me of not reading then you say this?
On May 03 2013 05:35 Sharrant wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sharrant you're wrong, there are no scum vigis left; if there were they wasted their shots on Ace or something. There is no way in hell scum would be sitting on vigi shots this late in the game. Ace is 3p, deal with it. I agree we don't lynch him yet.

Vote Hopeless and let's end this day because there doesn't seem to be anything left to say. Palmar is useless and this:
Whether or not he's third party, it is not good town play to lynch him. He still may be town, and either way he's one of the stronger analysts in the game. I'd rather have the counsel of a man who knows he is doomed to lose, than potentially kill a townie AND waste time not killing mafia when Ace is already a completely solved situation.

is dumb. Have you not noticed Ace's considerable lack of contribution since being RBed every night? He has no desire to help town anymore because he knows he's caught. Your constant hard defenses of him in the face of overwhelming evidence troubles me, Sharrant. It seems like you've lost your way somewhere in this game.

##Vote: Hopeless1der


How are you failing at reading so hard? If a scum vigi shot on night 2 it would be exactly the same as if a serial poisoner acted on night one. Please keep up. Lynching him hurts town right now.

I hate playing follow the cop, it's just boring.

I'm waffling on lynching Hopeless right now, going to try and figure out if I want to lynch Yamato more or less.


On May 03 2013 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sharrant you're wrong, there are no scum vigis left; if there were they wasted their shots on Ace or something. There is no way in hell scum would be sitting on vigi shots this late in the game. Ace is 3p, deal with it. I agree we don't lynch him yet.

Vote Hopeless and let's end this day because there doesn't seem to be anything left to say. Palmar is useless and this:
Whether or not he's third party, it is not good town play to lynch him. He still may be town, and either way he's one of the stronger analysts in the game. I'd rather have the counsel of a man who knows he is doomed to lose, than potentially kill a townie AND waste time not killing mafia when Ace is already a completely solved situation.

is dumb. Have you not noticed Ace's considerable lack of contribution since being RBed every night? He has no desire to help town anymore because he knows he's caught. Your constant hard defenses of him in the face of overwhelming evidence troubles me, Sharrant. It seems like you've lost your way somewhere in this game.

##Vote: Hopeless1der



Because I clearly explained where the vigi (if the scum have another vigi) had fired, and you were saying that the scum wouldn't have withheld their shot. It made no sense in the context of the conversation. It's completely out of place. I said it's possible scum could have fired on n2 if they had a second vigi, killing grush, and it would appear just the same as if a third party had done it. You responded with

"Sharrant you're wrong, there are no scum vigis left; if there were they wasted their shots on Ace or something. There is no way in hell scum would be sitting on vigi shots this late in the game. Ace is 3p, deal with it. I agree we don't lynch him yet."


I find it highly unlike that a mafia shot was used on Grush.


As do I, but the whole reason we're having this conversation is because Palmar sait that Ace is confirmed as third party, however unlikely mafia shooting Grush is, only mafia know for certain whether Ace is third party or not. Thus it is very important.

And yeah, WoS, I just felt it needed to be reminded to everyone else again. Only the first bit was about you, the rest was to everyone else. Patience and repetition.



Hey, Palmar, what checks did you do, and what results did you receive? You checked BC (RB'ed), BC (guilty), VE (guilty) is there one I'm missing?

I feel like grush dying means that there's third party, and there being 3rd party basically confirms Ace as the only candidate.

Obviously I also feel that Palmar agreeing with this logic is not indicative of his alignment.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 21:06 GMT
#4362
Why is Palmar being allowed to sit back and watch the town burn?
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
May 02 2013 21:06 GMT
#4363
On May 03 2013 06:04 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, you missed obviousone


So you've had 3 guilty checks so far, yes? One on one confirmed town, one on a cop checked town, and one on BC, yes?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 02 2013 21:07 GMT
#4364
Grush was not towny as fuck, he STARSENSES then fucks off every game. Yes he's town but his play is mostly anti-towny and is basically a gift for mafia. Look at what happened in LX.

No reason to kill a useless town player when there are bigger fish to fry.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 02 2013 21:07 GMT
#4365
good god. Seriously, how are you people so bad at this. [b]Just consolidate on one person, just one. lynch the scummeist target and keep going through the list.[/b[

Jesus., I wish we had a deadline because it takes 72 hours to do something that should take no more than 10. Whether Palmar, BC, or Hopeless dies first it does not matter. We have a massive numbers advantage and unless you're extremely dumb 4 "almost surefire Town" players. Which is more than the number of targets on the block. The game is essentially solved, the people slowing it up are most likely the last remaining Scum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 02 2013 21:08 GMT
#4366
On May 02 2013 10:14 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 09:37 ObviousOne wrote:
Listen to Scumcast 3, really actually listen to it don't just play it in the background. Palmar talks about D1 lynches. It totally fits with everything he said in the cast. Oats was a good D1 lynch even though Oats was town. You cannot apologize for lynching town D1, and since you are usually going to hit town you have to make it a GOOD D1 lynch. A GOOD D1 lynch gives you information without lynching for information. You have people take sides, you see who flies in the face of logic, reason, how people escape the noose. Accept the fact that D1 lynches tend to hit town, accept that he understands and embraces this, and use the information constructively. His slip isn't a scum slip, it's his actual mindset.

If that was the case, he would have said so as his reasonings. he would say " I explained why, your going to hit town just accept it unless yo uget lucky Go listen to the podcast again.." He said for reasons not explained, if he had time to do a cop check first, that would be one thing. But I want to know what those unexplained reasons are,

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 10:06 Palmar wrote:
On April 29 2013 05:47 TheRavensName wrote:
He also mentioned that "oh oats was always gonna flip town. I didn't really care much for reasons best left unexplained. " Even a scum would at least kind of care right?


The reasons best left unexplained have now been explained. I was actively trying to be useless/awful without sabotaging town. I usually say it's a terrible idea to change your play when you roll blue... but my normal play gets me shot night 1 almost every damn game, so I decided to give it a shot.



This was not a satisfactory answer.


Well it's the true answer, do you want me to go make up reasons to make you happy?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 02 2013 21:08 GMT
#4367
On May 03 2013 06:06 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 06:04 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, you missed obviousone


So you've had 3 guilty checks so far, yes? One on one confirmed town, one on a cop checked town, and one on BC, yes?

yep
Computer says mafia
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 02 2013 21:08 GMT
#4368
please hammer hopeless
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#4369
I'm voting hopeless, we're going in circles.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#4370
I don't want to kill hopeless?
Computer says mafia
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#4371
Palmar->BC->Yamato-> (Ace)
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 02 2013 21:11 GMT
#4372
Like I can't remember exactly what happened, but back on day 1 hopeless came in looking somewhat scummy, then got into an argument with someone and I came away thinking he was likely town.
Computer says mafia
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
May 02 2013 21:11 GMT
#4373
On May 03 2013 06:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 06:06 Sharrant wrote:
On May 03 2013 06:04 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, you missed obviousone


So you've had 3 guilty checks so far, yes? One on one confirmed town, one on a cop checked town, and one on BC, yes?

yep


Ah, nevermind, I'll leave this until tomorrow.

It's probably not important anyhow.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 02 2013 21:12 GMT
#4374
On May 03 2013 06:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
Palmar->BC->Yamato-> (Ace)


I'm not scum buddy.
Computer says mafia
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#4375
I tried that argument, its not working
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 02 2013 21:21 GMT
#4376
also, for anyone thinking BM is scum I have a pretty damn strong town read on him. I had to filter him and read back on past games in PYP mafia, and I ended up making a short case on him day since he was mafia.

Then when this game started I noticed a completely different BM playing, so I'm almost certain he is not scum.
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 02 2013 21:22 GMT
#4377
Fuck this, we're lynching Cobbler.
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 02 2013 21:22 GMT
#4378
On May 03 2013 06:21 Palmar wrote:
also, for anyone thinking BM is scum I have a pretty damn strong town read on him. I had to filter him and read back on past games in PYP mafia, and I ended up making a short case on him day since he was mafia.

Then when this game started I noticed a completely different BM playing, so I'm almost certain he is not scum.

Totally useful, thanks Palmar.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 02 2013 21:24 GMT
#4379
VOTE TO LYNCH BLOODYCOBBLER
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 02 2013 21:25 GMT
#4380
On May 03 2013 06:24 yamato77 wrote:
VOTE TO LYNCH BLOODYCOBBLER

Narp.
I don't think I will.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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