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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 20:30 GMT
#462
lolwut.
Uh....it was originally meant for either/both of you but now yeah, Geript.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 20:59 GMT
#470
On April 22 2013 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:
So getmoript is now mod confirmed town LOL

I hate this.
How do you figure?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 21:07 GMT
#477
On April 22 2013 06:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
theres scarcely the need for a separate qt when you're scum. its not 100% but I actually agree with kush for a change.

I suppose that's true but until marv confirmed it himself it wasn't as clear. He could also be 3p btw.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 22:56 GMT
#506
On April 22 2013 07:41 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, how's it going read-wise? Picked up anything else besides BM? I currently have 8 candidates as possible scum, you?

lol what is this, a penis measuring contest? Either way I'm not impressed unless you have actual information to back it up. I'm really curious as to who you've come with especially considering most people's filters are too small to analyze; are you calling everyone with a filter worthy of analysis scummy?

Personally the fact that geript has been pretty much avoiding me all day is enough for me for now.

##Vote: Getmoript
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#511
On April 22 2013 08:04 getmoript wrote:
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On April 22 2013 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2013 07:41 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, how's it going read-wise? Picked up anything else besides BM? I currently have 8 candidates as possible scum, you?

lol what is this, a penis measuring contest? Either way I'm not impressed unless you have actual information to back it up. I'm really curious as to who you've come with especially considering most people's filters are too small to analyze; are you calling everyone with a filter worthy of analysis scummy?

Personally the fact that geript has been pretty much avoiding me all day is enough for me for now.

##Vote: Getmoript

So the fact that I've been avoiding you is scummy? Explain or die.

Answer my question.
I don't respond to threats.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:18 GMT
#519
On April 22 2013 08:08 Sharrant wrote:
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On April 22 2013 08:04 getmoript wrote:
On April 22 2013 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2013 07:41 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, how's it going read-wise? Picked up anything else besides BM? I currently have 8 candidates as possible scum, you?

lol what is this, a penis measuring contest? Either way I'm not impressed unless you have actual information to back it up. I'm really curious as to who you've come with especially considering most people's filters are too small to analyze; are you calling everyone with a filter worthy of analysis scummy?

Personally the fact that geript has been pretty much avoiding me all day is enough for me for now.

##Vote: Getmoript

So the fact that I've been avoiding you is scummy? Explain or die.


Geript, WaveofShadow, both of you get on target here. You can return to your little slap fight afterwards if you want, but read the last few pages. Look at the cases on Rayne, and look at his filter. Then put your votes where they belong, and comment.


To be fair, I'm sort of curious myself as to what exactly BM's play means and am hesitant to comment too much on the state of Rayn's tunneling until I really understand if it makes sense or not. Your case is good but as far as I'm concerned it's too early to focus entirely on just one person and try to garner everyone's town votes.
Still waiting on a response Geript; nice to see a vote on you actually was enough to cause some sort of a reaction. And I don't go for that 'mod-confirmed' shit either. I'll keep it in mind but I refuse to ignore him just because of it. Especially since 3p is still quite possible (and imo, likely with 3 possible 3p roles).

##Unvote: Getmoript

I want to hear more from CC or kush at the moment.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:19 GMT
#522
Sharrant I had thought the same thing about Ace in the past but the past few games as town he has done the exact same thing. Null to me.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:33 GMT
#530
On April 22 2013 08:25 getmoript wrote:
The questions addressed to Marv or some other one? I haven't seen a serious question to me worth answering bish. Why are you so afraid that I'm 3p?

Get your own fake swear.

On April 22 2013 03:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hokay. Makes sense. So marv can I count on the fact that your first major scumread will almost certainly be town?

You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why.



Despite the fact that this was originally specifically addressed to marv, the fact remains you wrote that list post and I'd like to know what your thoughts on Palmar are.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:34 GMT
#531
On April 22 2013 08:31 Vivax wrote:
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On April 22 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax what makes Oats scummy to you?


Mostly meta differences between his town and scum play. You'll hear the exact reasons once I feel like making a case.

Could you see WoS being scum or do you feel safe in assuming he's town?

Objection, leading the witness!
Seriously though Vivax, this question is stupid. If I'm not confirmed town then of course it's possible for me to be scum. What exactly is your agenda here?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:40 GMT
#538
On April 22 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 08:31 Vivax wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax what makes Oats scummy to you?


Mostly meta differences between his town and scum play. You'll hear the exact reasons once I feel like making a case.

Could you see WoS being scum or do you feel safe in assuming he's town?

I'm gonna look more into Oats tomorrow when i wake up.

Atm i'm leaning more onto WoS being town, mainly because afaik he has never rolled scum (at least before this game) and him claiming town in his early post reads out genuine to me. But that being said:
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I want to hear more from CC or kush at the moment.

WoS: Why do you want to hear more specifically from those guys?

lol this is a terrible reason for not thinking I'm scum but whatever.
CC because of his scumread on Geript; especially since it was before the 'mod-confirmed' horseshit, I want to see if he changes his mind.

Kush for similar reasons since he threw a vote on geript as well right before the 'confirmation' and right after agreed that this confirms geript as town without removing his vote. Want to gain some insight into his thoughts processes as well regarding his townreads.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:43 GMT
#541
On April 22 2013 08:39 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 08:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Despite the fact that this was originally specifically addressed to marv, the fact remains you wrote that list post and I'd like to know what your thoughts on Palmar are.

He's making sense and thus more likely to be town. If he doesn't die by night 2 I'll look into that read further. I just see very little point in trying to get a read on a player who I have little actual experience with and never had a very serious read on either way, seems to have a history of variable activity, and is likely to be a target of an NK if town. If he dies, then I'll dive him. If he doesn't, then I'll likely try to lynch him. It's not worth the effort and so long as he's making sense I don't see a point in not sheeping him.

Your post makes sense but it seems to be a little conflicted. Calling him town is a read, and yet in the same post you say you don't see a point in trying to get a read on him. Why bother calling him town if you're so unsure of yourself?

You also say you don't see a point in not sheeping him; do you agree with his assessment of BM's pseudo-claim?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:45 GMT
#545
Palmar it's not just the analysis on Sylencia, the whole post is junk and you know it.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2013 23:49 GMT
#548
On April 22 2013 08:47 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
\Kush for similar reasons since he threw a vote on geript as well right before the 'confirmation' and right after agreed that this confirms geript as town without removing his vote. Want to gain some insight into his thoughts processes as well regarding his townreads.


i removed my vote and put it onto oats!!! u are soooo wrong

So you did; didn't check the voting thread.
That's not the point of my post though, the point was I'm interested to hear your thoughts on geript (and now oats) and your reads that you mentioned here:

On April 22 2013 01:32 kushm4sta wrote:
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On April 22 2013 01:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we stop trying to use the role PM to discern alignments KTHX

I already did though!
VE town
CC town
Hopeless scum

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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 22 2013 00:05 GMT
#559
On April 22 2013 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sharrant are you treating Geript as confirmed town or not?

I'm pretty sure that was made clear by his post.
On April 22 2013 08:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Dear WoS,
My vote on Oats..palmar called him scum. he got all sarcastic "ooo you found me." his sarcasm pissed me off so I voted him. My vote really doesn't go beyond that. Since then he's been afk.

Getript - very weird first post but now he's mod confirmed town. I don't really want to talk about it because I'm afraid a mod will yell at me but yeah..

VE town, CC town, Hopeless scum...that was following my role PM theories about how only town would mention that the role pms made them check the OP but scum would not. I dropped that because everyone said it was dumb. IMO it's smart. There is a reason mods dont want you to discuss things. And that's because those things hold the secret to who is scum!!
But anyway yeah since then hopeless has been afk but he is on my watch list.

Hopeless is scummier than Oats atm, but I really can't be bothered to change my vote because im lazy.

Thank you, kind sir.

On April 22 2013 08:56 getmoript wrote:
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On April 22 2013 08:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Your post makes sense but it seems to be a little conflicted. Calling him town is a read, and yet in the same post you say you don't see a point in trying to get a read on him. Why bother calling him town if you're so unsure of yourself?

I said I wasn't interested in lynching into him. There's a difference between saying I'm not interested in lynching him today and calling him town, dear.

Geript, you gotta find your own thing, man. Thanks for + Show Spoiler +
finally
responding though. That's all for now.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 22 2013 01:40 GMT
#590
On April 22 2013 10:32 TheRavensName wrote:
Thank you for directing me to the podcast. I ended up listening to it while I did some work and read the thread before having to run off to do some errands. Huge help in making me understand a little bit more. Still not sure I understand how spam is town, but apparently the expliantion is spam is townie... Since basically they said if your really active no one will want to kill you and that seems like good scum motivation too.
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On April 22 2013 04:56 Sharrant wrote:
@TheRavensName
Who would you like to lynch right now?

Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere?

Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town?



Since I was asked, I have been in the last 3 NMM games in a row, your free to find them yourself (Isn't there a big database of games?) but I don't really think I can read into how I playbecause I ended up playing differently all three games.

I don't know how Oats plays so I dunno if he really just spams that much at the start, so I will ignore that. I like how he points out the thing about Palmer's town read and trying to act like it was super awesome when it didn't do much so yea.... I feel like its a good point and its the only thing of any real substance in his filter. So, I would like to see something that seems more useful; I don't want to make a judgement off of basically one real point repeated a few points.

I would be against lynching Rayn. In one of the Newbie games we played together we were in a similar situation and he took the opportunity to rip through me and just tunnel the entire game, so I think if he was scum this would be unlike him and I feel like I could have been a pretty easy push if he wanted to since he managed to basically do it before off less, even if there are much better people here who could see through it. (Unless he wantsto be my budy. dun dun dun.)

In the same vain, I think Sharrant started out by taking a really easy way out of attacking me right out the gate and then just focuses on me and pushes around till hearing a few people saying that I was at least not scum, and then hops on Rayn without any real expliantion besides that hes going after BM for the miller soft claim and the fact that BM seems to be being useless, but that makes Ray more scummy then BM or someone else when Ray is actually being fairly active?

So based off what I can figure out, I dislike Sharrant. He was convinced I was vote worthy, then hoped off before I got a chance to respond, but doesn't want to make a comment on BM til lBM shows up. Seems sketchy for me, and would probably be my vote target at the moment, but there is plenty of reading to be done and lots of time for more things to read.

Your sentences are the run-onniest.
You're basing your entire read on Rayn on the one game of meta you have with him and how he treated you specifically this game?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 22 2013 01:46 GMT
#594
I'd just like to point out that in the past couple of games I played (Ego Mini, Hydra II) scum were mainly amongst lurkers. There are a few people we haven't heard from at all yet and a few with filters that are lacking. I know it's not even 24h into D1 but I personally feel that is worth noting, especially when these people do finally post.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#596
On April 22 2013 10:46 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:32 TheRavensName wrote:
Thank you for directing me to the podcast. I ended up listening to it while I did some work and read the thread before having to run off to do some errands. Huge help in making me understand a little bit more. Still not sure I understand how spam is town, but apparently the expliantion is spam is townie... Since basically they said if your really active no one will want to kill you and that seems like good scum motivation too.
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 22 2013 04:56 Sharrant wrote:
@TheRavensName
Who would you like to lynch right now?

Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere?

Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town?



Since I was asked, I have been in the last 3 NMM games in a row, your free to find them yourself (Isn't there a big database of games?) but I don't really think I can read into how I playbecause I ended up playing differently all three games.

I don't know how Oats plays so I dunno if he really just spams that much at the start, so I will ignore that. I like how he points out the thing about Palmer's town read and trying to act like it was super awesome when it didn't do much so yea.... I feel like its a good point and its the only thing of any real substance in his filter. So, I would like to see something that seems more useful; I don't want to make a judgement off of basically one real point repeated a few points.

I would be against lynching Rayn. In one of the Newbie games we played together we were in a similar situation and he took the opportunity to rip through me and just tunnel the entire game, so I think if he was scum this would be unlike him and I feel like I could have been a pretty easy push if he wanted to since he managed to basically do it before off less, even if there are much better people here who could see through it. (Unless he wantsto be my budy. dun dun dun.)

In the same vain, I think Sharrant started out by taking a really easy way out of attacking me right out the gate and then just focuses on me and pushes around till hearing a few people saying that I was at least not scum, and then hops on Rayn without any real expliantion besides that hes going after BM for the miller soft claim and the fact that BM seems to be being useless, but that makes Ray more scummy then BM or someone else when Ray is actually being fairly active?

So based off what I can figure out, I dislike Sharrant. He was convinced I was vote worthy, then hoped off before I got a chance to respond, but doesn't want to make a comment on BM til lBM shows up. Seems sketchy for me, and would probably be my vote target at the moment, but there is plenty of reading to be done and lots of time for more things to read.

Your sentences are the run-onniest.
You're basing your entire read on Rayn on the one game of meta you have with him and how he treated you specifically this game?

Its enough that I like him a little more then everyone else. I am taking it with a grain of salt though. I was under the impression that out of 25 people one should do what they can to try and limit the number just a little bit to a more managable size.

Considering the size of his filter and the degree to which he has been under scrutiny thus far in the game, no, I don't think that's enough at all. If you read into him even a little bit I think you'd have plenty to go on; your read is lazy imo.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 22 2013 03:19 GMT
#635
On April 22 2013 12:14 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 22 2013 12:04 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2013 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 22 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.

But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.

People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.

BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play.


Is yamato super scummy or is it just me? I mean I know he has some sort of IRL excuse (which I dont recall reading about myself actually) but dear lord he is scummy.

He "doesn't like" that a noob is being a noob... WTF does that mean?
Then he lists off some easy targets who haven't been here and say they "irk" him. Then BM is sketch.
these words are very wishy washy.
Also his comment on BM is really dumb reasoning compared to his usual town reasoning.

TLDR, no conviction behind anything

yamato

Look up a dictionary and tell me where "sketch" and "irk" imply indecisiveness and I'll take this post seriously.


In the context of forum mafia they do.
what do they imply?

Suspicious activity has been detected in the vicinity of the Oats/CC/VE/BM area.

Proceed with caution.

VE's lack of posting worries me but I do recall having an early townread on him. I can't read Oats worth a shit, CC I'm not sure of yet one way or another and BM....well we still gotta wait on see.

Yamato can you do me a favour and expand on your read of TRN? The analysis in your read coincides with mine but I'm honestly not sure what you mean by you 'not liking' him.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 22 2013 04:03 GMT
#662
On April 22 2013 12:59 kushm4sta wrote:
SHARRANT and RAYNE plz stfu talking to each other / about each other. i think i speak for everyone when I say this...tldr for realz

SHUTTING DOWN CONVERSATION! SCUMMY


On April 22 2013 12:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Ugh, all I've got are feel reads. I wouldn't mind lynching me a Hopeless or Giygas (idc how you spell it) today. No reasoning given, just the feels. Hard evidence is difficult to come by unless I'm purposely trying to lynch townies as mafia t.t /complain.

I feel like sharrant is town, for the record. Ray is probably town. Yamato I'm disappointed hasn't been shouting at people so I could easily discern his alignment, but unfortunately he has just been threatening to kill people. Icantbelievehesnullbro.

Shiaopi i think would be a decent target as well.

Could someone just yell at me in all caps so I feel like I'm being pressured? Like seriously it's how I get my best reads -- on those who pressure me.

CC YOURE SO PROTOWN THIS GAME YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY MAFIA POST A READ NOW OR I LYNCH YOU NPNP


Sorry I'm procrastinating studying and bored.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 22 2013 04:07 GMT
#670
On April 22 2013 13:05 getmoript wrote:
Right with you WoS. I've got a cardiac test tomorrow, what do you have?

Visual Perception/Binocular Vision
It's all physics and theory...it's just horrible.

Also Ace never stop posting memes/gifs in these games man.
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