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On May 01 2013 09:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


I believe I have summed up before in earlier posts about my suspicions of him no?

If you need a new summary

He has done basically nothing to help the town
He appears to only be doing what he does for shits and giggles
He claimed DT with one red check purely to get me lynched when he knows dts can have sanity issues
He has promised analysis and never delivered
I believe because of these things he is scum

On April 26 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Because I feel Yamato is 100% scum whereas the other two could be scum or third party. Of those two I would lynch Palmar first though

On May 01 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:



What has changed?

On May 01 2013 09:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Yamato is trying in some varying degree so I feel I could be wrong now. Instead of 100% im more sitting on like 80% whereas Palmar's behaviour since just before and everything after his cop claim has just been insanely scumlike. I believe there is a strong possibility of both being scum, however in this case I feel Palmar's play has been far more scummy.

On May 01 2013 09:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
He appears to only be doing what he does for shits and giggles

On May 01 2013 09:24 VisceraEyes wrote:

Show me where Yamato is trying.

On May 01 2013 09:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kush this is why you shouldn't do meta. He's written in plenty of paragraphs, and even if he didn't that wouldn't be indicative of a mindset change.

On May 01 2013 09:25 TheRavensName wrote:

Well hes trying on Ace and Palmar right now... Your basiclaly just screaming I DONT KNOW WHAT YOur TALKING ABOUT I LIKE ACE!

On May 01 2013 09:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Yamato is trying in some varying degree so I feel I could be wrong now. Instead of 100% im more sitting on like 80% whereas Palmar's behaviour since just before and everything after his cop claim has just been insanely scumlike. I believe there is a strong possibility of both being scum, however in this case I feel Palmar's play has been far more scummy.

On May 01 2013 00:36 yamato77 wrote:
The narrative I've managed to work out in my head feels rather conspiracy-theorist, so I'm not sure if I'm right or not. Wishy washy stances, yeah yeah, but it's something I've been thinking about since the syl flip.

So assuming Shiao is mafia, that makes the day 2 wagons BOTH mafia. People that felt there was little difference between them would be largely absolved, in my opinion. What would then be strange were the two people who argued over the two of them, VE and Ace.

As I said before, there is a clear scum motivation in saving Shiao and bussing Clarity, because Clarity was likely to be mod killed anyway and highly inactive. Ace proposes that this lost the scum team 2 KP, and it did, but it actually served to SAVE a scum member, since before Ace's push, Shiao was the one getting lynched. Some time in day 2, people began to realize just how inactive Clarity was, and it became apparent that he was more than likely to be mod killed. So the Clarity bus, assuming Shiao is mafia, is actually making the best out of a shit situation.

Ace also argues in his filter that the scum team would have pushed an alternative target, but people fail to realize that this person was me. Thread sentiment has been against me the entire game, and even the way Ace develops his suspicion of me on day 1 is worth looking at. And on day 2, there is no shortage of referring to me being a possible lynch candidate in Ace's filter.

What adds on to this for me is that his metric for determining the better lynch between Clarity/Shiao is somewhat suspect. Most of it no longer applies, because in knowing that Clarity was scum, and Shiao was scum, we realize that him not voting his scum buddy in the time he was there is not weird whatsoever. The VCA that "scummy people" from the Oats wagon were on the Shiao wagon is also complete bullshit, and I've been over that before.

Another thing is the choice of NK, CC. His check was the one on Shiao, and it was this check that Ace wanted to argue against, that CC was suspicious for his claim and not to be trusted. Later, he goes on to about face once he realizes people are believing CC and plays along with this whole thing, but he's still disruptive in the sense that he wanted cops to check each other, which CC was obviously against from a look at his filter. So with VE complying, and Palmar being a wildcard and under some suspicion, he NK's the cop everyone believes that isn't following his circle jerk plan.

Shiao flipping a scum largely invalidates the largest part of why people should believe Ace as town, which were his day 2 actions with the lynch. When you eliminate that, which is a large portion of his actual contribution this game, his filter devolves significantly, and you're left with a lot of arguing with people and insulting others, along with bullying people for their read on him.

So yeah, Ace could definitely be scum.

On May 01 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


A mafia player could attempt to do this, however a post like this is also something I would expect out of a town player as well. Is it the best contribution? No, and do I agree with it? No. However I would say this is actually a "trying" post.